[QUOTE=gonnagiveittoya;5594848]The X-Men can't both be horribly oppressed and also godlike ubermensch[/QUOTE]
But that's exactly what it is lol.
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[QUOTE=gonnagiveittoya;5594848]The X-Men can't both be horribly oppressed and also godlike ubermensch[/QUOTE]
But that's exactly what it is lol.
[QUOTE=gonnagiveittoya;5594868]Plus all these examples are specifically from Marauders, which whike I'm optimistic for the new main book, it's still far from representative of the rest of the line till recently. It'd hard to say otherwise when the cats majority of the line is about the government of Krakoa and the Almighty X-Men But Not Actually X-Men Even Though The Book is Called X-Men[/QUOTE]
Duggan has been great sprinkling in those moments and with Marauders being the group that brings mutants back, it's the easiest to reference.
But I've personally felt Hickman has written great moments between the mutants. Like Scott showing concern for Ororo, the convo between Mags, Charles and Emma in HOX. Magneto speaking tenderly to mutant children. I won't bombard the thread with scans but God knows I have a bunch.
I too am very much looking forward to Duggan's X-Men.
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Let's see...
X-Men...Global/Political positioning soon to be the X-Men heroism
X-Force...Militant against active threats against Krakoa.
[B]Marauders...Socio-political/Humanitarian directive.[/B] yupp, sounds about where I would expect it to be.
New Mutants...the Youth of Krakoa
Wolverine...Wolverine.
Cable...Cable
Excalibur...Otherworld/Magic stuff.
SWORD...Cosmic
X-Corp...Business/Financial Positioning
WoX...Internal Strife
X-Factor...The Resurrection Protocol.
Gonna put a big old asterix on X factor because they definitely did not get around to the details of the protocols in the ways they setup up that they would
Also like I said: the minority of the books. It used to be the X-Mens driving focus and for two years it's been in the backseat.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5594875]Let's see...
X-Men...Global/Political positioning soon to be the X-Men heroism
X-Force...Militant against active threats against Krakoa.
[B]Marauders...Socio-political/Humanitarian directive.[/B] yupp, sounds about where I would expect it to be.
New Mutants...the Youth of Krakoa
Wolverine...Wolverine.
Cable...Cable
Excalibur...Otherworld/Magic stuff.
SWORD...Cosmic
X-Corp...Business/Financial Positioning
WoX...Internal Strife
X-Factor...The Resurrection Protocol.[/QUOTE]
Well done. Oh and CotA which highlights why everyone wants to be a mutant. :)
Edit: Fallen Angels had a great scene where Erik gives Kwannon a jet to go stop a human-only threat.
You can't expect anyone to have read Fallen Angels
I get it now...or I think I do...
1: If they're oppressed then mutants must always be under the whip and yoke of their oppressors. There's no desire or need to rise up and stand up for their right to exist in a world where they're not oppressed.
or
2: If they're Godlike Ubermench (which they are not...that's just a handful compared to the total current population) then they must show their strength and beat their oppressors into submission.
All I can say is, I'm thankful that the X-Books I read are not so Black and White.
[QUOTE=gonnagiveittoya;5594889]You can't expect anyone to have read Fallen Angels[/QUOTE]
[SIZE=1]Can't really argue with that...[/SIZE]
I'm just going by what the main books are saying: that the Hellfire Gala, the event that was to "build together with humanity" ended with announcing their Reign over the Earth and Mars
[QUOTE=Jbenito;5594888]Well done. Oh and CotA which highlights why everyone wants to be a mutant. :)
Edit: Fallen Angels had a great scene where Erik gives Kwannon a jet to go stop a human-only threat.[/QUOTE]
Thank you. I wasn't quite sure of CotA's premise and Fallen Angels seemed so...esoteric.
[QUOTE=gonnagiveittoya;5594896]I'm just going by what the main books are saying: that the Hellfire Gala, the event that was to "build together with humanity" ended with announcing their Reign over the Earth and Mars[/QUOTE]
My advice to you would be to read deeper between the lines and layers. Only if you feel so inclined.
And...it's not ended yet. There are still a couple of things taking place we have yet to see.
Jesus Christ, I forgot Fallen Angels was even a thing.
[QUOTE=gonnagiveittoya;5594896]I'm just going by what the main books are saying: that the Hellfire Gala, the event that was to "build together with humanity" ended with announcing their Reign over the Earth and Mars[/QUOTE]
I mean inviting a number of humans to the Gala was big, having them rub elbows and socialize with mutants. And we'll have to see what happens in SWORD, how things are presented and explained.
[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;5594899]Thank you. I wasn't quite sure of CotA's premise and Fallen Angels seemed so...esoteric.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I only remember that Erik/Kwannon scene because Tycon would post it when we had this same argument over a year ago. :)
[QUOTE=CoCoBandz;5594902]Jesus Christ, I forgot Fallen Angels was even a thing.[/QUOTE]
Yeah FA was rough. The one takeaway I enjoyed was that the threat was only a danger to humans and Kwannon's group still went out and defeated it.
The more I think on it...although I would absolutely hate it because he is the supreme dip-shit of assholes...I could easily see Erik and Charles giving the position of Regent of Sol to Namor...he is THE KING of over 70% of the planet after all.
And GGitY would have Itoldyaso bragging rights.