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[QUOTE=Gaius;5794055]I think actually Artemis would closer to a "Jason Todd" of the the Wonder Woman family. :p
But yeah, seems whenever the Swan pops up it's Vanessa so I think that's who DC settled on.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Artemis kinda is the Jason Todd character, lol.
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[QUOTE=Kurt Busiek;5791594]I think Wonder Woman's got a lot of villains who could be modernized and made useful.
I put Mouse Man and the Human Firework in this story because I like them a lot, and knew how I'd want to revise them, and while I may not ever do an ongoing WW series, why not take advantage of this opportunity to show off a little bit of how I'd play them.
Mouse Man is not a lot of use in a fight, but he makes a dandy industrial spy/saboteur. The Human Firework blows up! What's not cool about that?
And Dr. Cyber I'd already revamped, with Tom Grummett doing the new design, in POWER COMPANY, and so I was happy to use her, too. Her motivations are actually more complex than "I want to rule the world," but this is a simple story and I didn't have much room, so why muddy it up?
Revamping WW's old foes could be a lot of fun. It was here, even for just a few pages.
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At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I think it must be very hard, creating a natural enemy for WW, since we haven't really figured out what she's doing, since World War II.
I've heard writers present multiple reasons to justify Cheetah's villainy.
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Does the axe have to be a W/eagle sign? XD
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[QUOTE=John Venus;5794299]Does the axe have to be a W/eagle sign? XD[/QUOTE]
"Put your logo on everything. It's good branding." -Myndi Mayer probably. :p
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From Drew Johnsons' DA page:
Scans from an unpublished Diana vs Cheetah story.
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[QUOTE=John Venus;5794299]Does the axe have to be a W/eagle sign? XD[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing it's on the [B][COLOR="#008080"]toilet paper.[/COLOR][/B]
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The supervillain's heart's desire must always threaten what is most important to the superhero. I look at this idiosyncratically iconic George Perez work, and I ask myself, "What the #"(* does Circe want? Enough ground-up pig people to make a skin cream? What the #"(* does she want?"
No wonder he blew her @$$ up, at the end of WOGs.
[url]https://wondabunga.blogspot.com/2021/09/get-away-from-her-you-witch-crash-lab.html[/url]
I love George, as an accomplished Latino and an artist. He redeemed [B]Hercules,[/B] who left Olympus to fight at the side of his Amazon sisters, in their darkest hour, in WOGS. He gave Wonder Woman a human family and a city to care about - wrong family and wrong city, but, he had the right idea, giving the WW comic, a regular cast and iconic setting, like the other great superhero comics. He established sisterhood, between Diana and Donna Troy. Writers should listen to him, more, because George knew what the hell he was doing.
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[QUOTE=John Venus;5794330]From Drew Johnsons' DA page:
Scans from an unpublished Diana vs Cheetah story. [/QUOTE]
That story was eventually published in Sensational WW and it's quite good.
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[QUOTE=Mel Dyer;5794362]I'm guessing it's on the [B][COLOR="#008080"]toilet paper.[/COLOR][/B]
The supervillain's heart's desire must always threaten what is most important to the superhero. I look at this idiosyncratically iconic George Perez work, and I ask myself, "What the #"(* does Circe want? Enough ground-up pig people to make a skin cream? What the #"(* does she want?"
No wonder he blew her @$$ up, at the end of WOGs.
[url]https://wondabunga.blogspot.com/2021/09/get-away-from-her-you-witch-crash-lab.html[/url][/QUOTE]Well, one of the tenets of character writing 101: what does the character want? This doesn't need to be precisely defined. That can actually limit your options. But there needs to be at least a vague idea as to what it should be. what is that for Circe? Well that varies a LOT by the story Circe is used in. In some cases it seems to be little more than boredom. In one story she wanted to rescue her daughter from Wonder Woman. Yeah it varies quite a lot.
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[QUOTE=Nyssane;5794750]That story was eventually published in Sensational WW and it's quite good.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I'll check it out.
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[QUOTE=I'm a Fish;5794317]"Put your logo on everything. It's good branding." -Myndi Mayer probably. :p[/QUOTE]
If you're going to have a logo, you might as well post it on your stuff. If we are going to have Wonder Weaponry, might as well make it profitable...
Do any of Wonder Woman's foes have logos? Things like the Lex Corp "L" or Harley's diamonds could go a long way.
Say you were the Edna Mode or Wonder Supervillainy, what logos or themes would fit Wonder Woman's rogues? I'm thinking a Blue snowflake or snowman for Byrna Brillyant, perhaps a Crimson Flame for Zara...
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Cheetah spots for both Cheetah and Giganta.
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[QUOTE=John Venus;5795731]Cheetah spots for both Cheetah and Giganta.[/QUOTE]I thought Giganta was Giraffe? :p
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[QUOTE=marhawkman;5795831]I thought Giganta was Giraffe? :p[/QUOTE]
The patches that artists put on Giganta’s costume are supposed to evoke giraffes (at least I think so) but every time I see them I think of Cheetah’s spots!