WOMEN OF MARVEL: Appreciation for all the heroines in comics (and behind the scenes)

[QUOTE=Kieran_Frost;213698]I've now updates the lists of solo, minis and all female teams... would love more suggestions, if anyone can think of any. :)

Also... SO happy this thread is seeing so much love, Marvel has created such an amazing amount of female heroes, they needed celebrating!!![/QUOTE]

What about adding the Curse of the Mutants Storm/Gambit One-Shot to Ororo's list?

[QUOTE=WINDRIDER;214634]What about adding the Curse of the Mutants Storm/Gambit One-Shot to Ororo's list?[/QUOTE]

Ooo, I liked that one!

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Oh and the X-Men: Sword Of Braddocks one-shot, starring Psylocke, written by Claremont. A very fun read with gorgeous art from Scott Clark(RIP).

[QUOTE=Ryo;214255]IMO, Storm is definitely the representative female face of Marvel in pop culture for her appearance in other media besides the comics, like cartoons, video games, movies. Even if a person has never read a comic in life, it's likely that, even then, knows who is Storm. She is a global character.

After her, I would say Jean Grey, Invisible Woman and Rogue.[/QUOTE]

Storm is certainly among the most recognizable female superheroes around. Her ethnicity combined with her hair color make her nearly impossible to confuse with anybody else.

Sue, always Sue.

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[QUOTE=Ryo;214255]IMO, Storm is definitely the representative female face of Marvel in pop culture for her appearance in other media besides the comics, like cartoons, video games, movies. Even if a person has never read a comic in life, it's likely that, even then, knows who is Storm. She is a global character.[/QUOTE]
I 100% agree it's Storm. As you say, between movies, games and comics... she really has everyone beat. Not only that she's been a leader FOR DECADES! Unlike Black Widow who once lead the whole Avengers (now can't even get to lead the spy team when she's supposed to be the world's greatest spy) is just sad, Storm is still leading a team(s). After Storm... it's hard, I'd say either Black Widow (due to the movies), Captain Marvel (because Marvel REEEALLY want it to be her -- but it's just not) or Jean Grey (she has been dead for a long time in comics, though).

[IMG]http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Storm-Detail.jpg[/IMG]

BUT what I love is I can see the arguement for so many. Elektra has had her own movie (none of the other ladies have). She-Hulk has the longest running 616 comic of any lady. Storm's a leader across the board, Jean Grey has been the focal female of the X-films, has one of the biggest X-storylines of all time (one of the biggest of comics, even). Invisible Woman is the lead female of the FF (the FIRST family). Wasp is a founding Avenger, former leader (not in many other mediums though). Marvel has done a good job creating many awesome females, now they just need to use them more (and they are -- so kudos Marvel!)

[QUOTE=RLAAMJR.;213800]Kieran Frost, don't forget:
Storm vol 2 (2006) #1-6 by Eric Jerome Dickey[/QUOTE]
No, I think that one can be left off, considering what a piss-poor series it was. Despite the name, it wasn't a Storm story. It was a Black Panther story. Throughout the entire 6-issue mini, Storm was weak and helpless, existing only to be rescued by Panther over and over and over. It was insulting to her character, and came across, quite frankly, as misogynistic.

[QUOTE=Sea Hound;213815]Hiya Kieran. Love the thread.
I think you're missing Chris Claremont's MechaniX and Ellis's Pryde and Wisdom in your Duet section.
And because I love the fact it survived, here's a letter from John Byrne to Chris Claremont, discussing her design.[/QUOTE]
I liked Mekanix for using Karma. Karma's always gotten so little love. She deserves better. Vietnamese, lesbian, rape survivor, caretaker for her younger siblings, amputee - she's so diverse it's insane. And yet still she seldom shows up anywhere. Even Marjorie Liu couldn't really think of much to do with her.

[QUOTE=tsaimelemoni;213869]Rios actually did Elektra's one shot for Shadowland.[/QUOTE]
I forgot about that. It was gorgeous. And she's only gotten better since then. So she should do an issue or arc of the current series.

[QUOTE=RLAAMJR.;214157]I didn't know about "The Aladdin Effect" until you posted it here and informing that Storm is there. I've checked the review about it and it was given a poor D+ but I actually like it based on the images shown on this link: [url]http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/the_aladdin_effect_marvel_grap.shtml[/url]

Thank you so much. :)[/QUOTE]
I've read it. It was pretty OK. Not bad, not great, just OK.

[QUOTE=Tiamatty;215220]No, I think that one can be left off, considering what a piss-poor series it was. Despite the name, it wasn't a Storm story. It was a Black Panther story. Throughout the entire 6-issue mini, Storm was weak and helpless, existing only to be rescued by Panther over and over and over. It was insulting to her character, and came across, quite frankly, as misogynistic.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. I was so happy when the Amazing X-Men annual #1 restored the original story of how Storm and BP met vs the travesty that Dickey wrote.

This one's debatable but I'll let others make the case for or against.

Phoenix Endsong. Your mileage will definitely vary, and Jean while seemingly the highlight isn't in it quite that much. But she steals the spotlight whenever she shows, and is pretty much the reason it sold as well as the head X title at the time. The follow up Warsong didn't do as well.

Also notable in that it's drawn by Greg Porn-Face Land and even he couldn't make Jean look cheap.

[b]Phoenix: Endsong -2005 / 5 issues[/b]

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[QUOTE=Kieran_Frost;214980]I 100% agree it's Storm. As you say, between movies, games and comics... she really has everyone beat. Not only that she's been a leader FOR DECADES! Unlike Black Widow who once lead the whole Avengers (now can't even get to lead the spy team when she's supposed to be the world's greatest spy) is just sad, Storm is still leading a team(s). After Storm... it's hard, I'd say either Black Widow (due to the movies), Captain Marvel (because Marvel REEEALLY want it to be her -- but it's just not) or Jean Grey (she has been dead for a long time in comics, though).

[IMG]http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Storm-Detail.jpg[/IMG]

BUT what I love is I can see the arguement for so many. Elektra has had her own movie (none of the other ladies have). She-Hulk has the longest running 616 comic of any lady. Storm's a leader across the board, Jean Grey has been the focal female of the X-films, has one of the biggest X-storylines of all time (one of the biggest of comics, even). Invisible Woman is the lead female of the FF (the FIRST family). Wasp is a founding Avenger, former leader (not in many other mediums though). Marvel has done a good job creating many awesome females, now they just need to use them more (and they are -- so kudos Marvel!)[/QUOTE]

Well said.

And love this new pic courtesy of Valificent....
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[QUOTE=ariwl1;215531]This one's debatable but I'll let others make the case for or against.

Phoenix Endsong. Your mileage will definitely vary, and Jean while seemingly the highlight isn't in it quite that much. But she steals the spotlight whenever she shows, and is pretty much the reason it sold as well as the head X title at the time. The follow up Warsong didn't do as well.

Also notable in that it's drawn by Greg Porn-Face Land and even he couldn't make Jean look cheap.

[img]https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/601647.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

Jean Grey would be the unanimous choice for Marvel's leading lady if they had kept her alive this entire time. She's got boundless star quality without being so quirky as to be relegated to some sideshow oddity. And even though she is most famous for going "dark" she spends the vast majority of her time as the quintessential good girl with a positive and uplifting air about her, something which is desperately lacking in modern comics. While she has plenty of sex appeal, she always keeps it classy and never vulgar, there's a real nobility to the character in every sense of the word.

[B]Daughters of Dragon (2006) (6 issues)[/B]
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[B]Ghost Rider v7 (2011) (9 issues)[/B]

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[B]White Tiger (2007) (6 issues)[/B]

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I'm getting more and more interested in white tiger lately. I wonder what sales would be like if they gave her another series with a really great writer?

On your comics list dont forget:
Firestar (1986) 1-4 by Tom DeFalco & Marie Severin
Ultra Girl (1996) 1-3 B. Kesel & Kirk
Marvel Chillers featuring Tigra (1975) #3-7 Isabella/Claremont & Meuginout/Byrne/Tuska
Tigra (2002) 1-4 Christina Z & Deodato
The Cat (1972) 1-4 Linda Fite/Roy Thomas & M. Severin
Shanna The She-Devil (1972) 1-5 Gerber/Seuling & Andru
Shanna The She-Devil The Killing Season (2005) Cho & Cho
Shanna The She-Devil: Survival of the Fittest (2007) Grey/Palmiotti & Evans
Patsy Walker: Hellcat (2008) 1-4 K. Immonen & LaFuentes
Hellcat (2000) 1-3 Englehart & Breyfogle
X-Men: Phoenix (Rachel Grey) (1999) 1-3 JF Moore & P. Alixe
Blink (2001) 1-4 Lobdell & McCarthy
Bloodstone (Elsa) (2001) 1-4 Abnett/Lanning & M. Lopez
Dakota North (1986) 1-5 M. Thomases & Salmon
Daughters of the Dragon (2006) 1-6 Palmiotti/Grey & Evans
Felicia Hardy Black Cat: (1994) 1-4 Cavalieri/Kavanaugh & Wildman
Amazing Spiderman Presents Black Cat (2010) 1-4 Van Meter & Pulido
Journey Into Mystery Black Widow (1996) 517-519 Lobdell & Green


One Shots:
Firestar (2010) Sean McKeever & Emma Rios
Valkyrie (1997) Wein/DeMatties & Clark/Raimondi
Valkyrie (2010) Glass & Winslade
Daughters of the Dragon Deadly Hands (repints back up strip) (2005) Claremont & Rogers
Dazzler (2010) McCann & Adrofsky
Spitfire (2010) Cornell & L. West

Duets:
Psylocke & Archangel Crimson Dawn (1997) 1-4 Raab & Larocca
Spider-Man Black Cat The Evil that Men Do (2002) K. Smith & Dodsons
Wolverine & Black Cat Claws (2006) 1-3 Palmiotti/Grey & Linsner
Wolverine & Black Cat Claws II (2011) 1-3 Palmiotti/Grey & linsner
Fury & Black Widow Death Duty (OGN) (1995) Ridout & Adlard
Thing & She-Hulk The Long Night (2002) Dezago & Hitch
Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix (1994) 1-4 Lobdell & Ha
Further Adv. of Cyclops & Phoenix (1996) 1-4 Milligan & Leon
X-Men True Friends Wolverine/Rachel Grey/Kitty Pryde (1999) 1-3 Claremont & Leonardi

[QUOTE=Silvermoth;216704]I'm getting more and more interested in white tiger lately. I wonder what sales would be like if they gave her another series with a really great writer?[/QUOTE]

Could be good, and it was nice to see her name touted in the poll for Rosario Dawson's 'DD' character!