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I’m just here to say love that Danhausen.
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Joey Mercury said that WWE continues to pay for his aftercare even though he doesn't work there.
[url]https://twitter.com/JOEYnRetrograde/status/1197757676173897729[/url]
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[QUOTE=choptop;4700157]Is roh really doing that badly?[/QUOTE]
In a way I kind of feel bad for ROH. Well, not really... but things really started to fall apart for them in the last year or so. They help Cody and the Bucks with All In, and the next thing ya know all their top talent ends up leaving for Cody and the Bucks new promotion.
Which isn't to say a lot of their wounds aren't self inflicted, as they seem to have had a string of bad PR moves too. This thing with their womans champ only being the most recent.
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[QUOTE=XPac;4700582]In a way I kind of feel bad for ROH. Well, not really... but things really started to fall apart for them in the last year or so. They help Cody and the Bucks with All In, and the next thing ya know all their top talent ends up leaving for Cody and the Bucks new promotion.
Which isn't to say a lot of their wounds aren't self inflicted, as they seem to have had a string of bad PR moves too. This thing with their womans champ only being the most recent.[/QUOTE]
Talent comes and goes. Cody and his buddies leaving doesn't even begin to justify things like screwing up their once-in-a-lifetime chance at MSG, souring their relationship with NJPW, or their horrid treatment of their other talent.
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[QUOTE=Immortal Weapon;4700551]Joey Mercury said that WWE continues to pay for his aftercare even though he doesn't work there.
[url]https://twitter.com/JOEYnRetrograde/status/1197757676173897729[/url][/QUOTE]
For every story like this, I feel there’s ten more about the way talent is exploited there.
I had been a WWE fan for 30 odd years until recently. I can’t in good conscience support them. It is sad because I respect so much of the talent, but the organization itself repulses me.
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[QUOTE=wjowski;4700600]Talent comes and goes. Cody and his buddies leaving doesn't even begin to justify things like screwing up their once-in-a-lifetime chance at MSG, souring their relationship with NJPW, or their horrid treatment of their other talent.[/QUOTE]
Yup! I think it’s important to believe ACH’s words about them as well. Let’s look at Sinclair, who’s a notoriously right wing outlet. Makes sense that they’re probably some racists
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[QUOTE=choptop;4700157]Is roh really doing that badly?[/QUOTE]
There was an article I posted weeks ago discussing the fact business has been down so bad in 2019 from live attendance to PPV numbers its scary. Like there was a cliff and ROH just went over ther side.
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RoH is making things worse
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[QUOTE=Immortal Weapon;4700752]RoH is making things worse
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Okay... in some ways it's not as bad as I thought.
It doesn't sound like they fired her, so much as they are choosing now to renew her contract when it's up. Still a lot of messed up stuff going on there... but they didn't actually fire her over it.
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[QUOTE=XPac;4700841]Okay... in some ways it's not as bad as I thought.
It doesn't sound like they fired her, so much as they are choosing now to renew her contract when it's up. Still a lot of messed up stuff going on there... but they didn't actually fire her over it.[/QUOTE]
That's not what he's doing. Knowing the heat he caught for the firing he's going to let the contract expire instead of terminating it. He's trying to save face. Him criticizing her for breaching ethical standard is a load of BS.
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[QUOTE=choptop;4700157]Is roh really doing that badly?[/QUOTE]
Apparently they're entering Heyman territory.
Also, ROH already took the belt off Kelly, so no repeat of the Medusa situation.
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[QUOTE=BeastieRunner;4700932]Apparently they're entering Heyman territory.
Also, ROH already took the belt off Kelly, so no repeat of the Medusa situation.[/QUOTE]
U wouldn't say that. ECW was still selling out shows and doing good PPV buys. Business was booming when they went under.
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[QUOTE=Immortal Weapon;4700959]U wouldn't say that. ECW was still selling out shows and doing good PPV buys. Business was booming when they went under.[/QUOTE]
It was booming so much Heyman didn’t pay people. Business was A-BOOMIN
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[QUOTE=Immortal Weapon;4700959]U wouldn't say that. ECW was still selling out shows and doing good PPV buys. Business was booming when they went under.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hulkverine;4701161]It was booming so much Heyman didn’t pay people. Business was A-BOOMIN[/QUOTE]
Dreamer , Credible and others have said that they were doing good business at live shows , merch and more. Credible claims at one show they did huge on merch sales and that for any other company that was great. Instead the big problems was Paul E. was a bad business man. There was talk Paul owed money in bad deals for lighting. That he was paying guys huge salaries he shouldn't have then.
ECW in 2000 business wise was doing way better business than ROH in 2019.
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[QUOTE=BeastieRunner;4699614]She's really good, too.
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In the ring? Unless she's improved in the last year (the last time I saw her), I rolled my eyes when I heard AEW was interested because that's the last thing they need. (Another average in-ring competitor whose marginally over with the audience)