When was the last time a living, cisgendered woman got praise in this thread? How many non-drag-performer trans women get props?
Not that this is required, but I'm willing to accept that [I]perhaps[/I] I'm noticing when women are getting trashed more. Flipping through, just a quick glance through pages does seem to bear out an imbalance.
[QUOTE=Andru;2273292]I am sorry, but this is being taken way too far. No one is policing anyone on their sexuality. These are internal opinions formed based on the erratic behavior of someone who I personally know. Also, this has nothing to do with gender. If this was a male in question, it would be the same situation.[/QUOTE]
Internal in what regard? They're not just inside you now, they are out in the world. This is a public, semi-protected thread.
And, if it had nothing to do with gender, it'd still be hypocritical. It would still be dangerous. But, it does seem, in the LGBT threads here at CBR, to always be about women faking. It's a tendency. I'm not faulting you for that tendency, either to pick apart and isolate women, or to pick apart and isolate what seems to be a generation you disagree with, because they didn't have the same struggles as you or yours. But, tendencies, on their own need to be dealt with, should be recognized. And, I do think that you went way too far positioning yourself as [I]the struggle[/I] and anyone else as indulging in some fad. If it was just about bashing sex lives for being faddish, we'd never have stopped talking about David Bowie.
[QUOTE=Andru;2273292]I would never think to actually tell someone they are gay or straight or lesbian or trans. That is not my place. However, I am absolutely allowed to form my own opinion on the matter based on behavior.
I actually feel like we agree on the majority of this topic. Maybe I am just not explaining my view as well as I could be...[/QUOTE]
We probably do agree on most of the basics, at least. I know from other posts/things, we agree on a lot.
I'm coming down on you, as much as I am, because this does [I]matter[/I]. I think establishing a base line of what is appropriately gay or not, appropriately LGBT or not, here in this thread, is policing. It may not affect her. She won't see this thread, perhaps. But it will affect who feels welcome in the thread or not. It does affect the board. It affects people who casually read what you've written and go, "Oh, I came out, then I wasn't brave enough, so I went back in the closet, but I still looked at ____, maybe I'm not consistent enough and they'd just think I was a fraud" or people who [I]whatever[/I] in their life. People who might see the post and see where you delve into those who come late to the party and haven't struggled enough may feel intimidated or shamed, dismissed, or just get pissed off, and for what? What's the benefits to those costs?
If anyone came in here and started systemically denouncing your LGBT status or participation in the community, if someone came in and started insisting marriage isn't gay, and gay men don't get married re Kieran, it'd be offensive and hurtful. Even if they never did it to your face, just here on a forum, it'd be hurtful and damaging. If not to you or Kieran, to someone seeing the thread. (And, it'd be super dumb. And, in this thread, agains the tone and point of the thread.) That's why I'm not sure we should be tearing apart someone else's sexuality or the way they identify based on speculation and anecdotal frustrations, not because you don't have a right to be frustrated - you do - but for the sake of how venting that frustration publicly can affect communities as wholes.
[QUOTE=jeanvaljean;2273396]Can we at least agree that everybody who is afraid of the label "queer" is not a real LGBTI* and can't get into our rainbow colored tree house of fabulosity anymore?
:p[/QUOTE]
[I]No one[/I] is allowed to use the word, for themselves or ever! It would only promote self-IDing.
[QUOTE=Kieran_Frost;2273323]Don't lie. You highlighted:[I] Denial, dillusion and just plain lieing happen[/I] AND YET then wrote [I]Plain lying happens, huh?[/I][/QUOTE]
How is that mockery, if that's what was written and then a response? The optimum there, the important factor, isn't the spelling, it's the suggestion of lying. Which, natch, you just accused me of a few posts back.
I think it was an important point to tackle, so how was she supposed to do that without referring to what you wrote?
I am going to halt [I]my part[/I] in this long enough to say thank you for the breakdown for the plays. They sound interesting and I always appreciate your way with summaries and willingness to set down lists like that.