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OK new year, new thread.
Happy New Year to Conner/Kon and all his fans :cool:.
Here’s to hoping our boy gets a good showing in Future State and present day Suicide Squad!
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Looks like someone beat you to it.
[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?145574-Conner-Kon-El-Superboy-Appreciation-2021[/url]
[QUOTE=Digifiend;5306284]Looks like someone beat you to it.
[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?145574-Conner-Kon-El-Superboy-Appreciation-2021[/url][/QUOTE]
Well WE r using this one lol
Again, something needs to be done about Conner. As long as Jon stays a teenager he loses any appeal.
No. Jon's the only one who loses any appeal from this. They can forcefully push him as the new Superman, that nobody asked for, all they want but I think Conner's still the one with a higher chance of actually sticking around considering he's got all the personality, the decades worth of history, and (I assume) the larger fanbase. He might stagnate for a while again, and I'm still not sure how I feel about this suicide squad direction, but I don't think Conner's in any real danger yet.
To me Conner and the YJ4 need to do their nightwing phase. Spread their wings metaphorically and go find themselves. The Suicide Squad is a step in that direction even its not exactly where we want him to go.
[QUOTE=the illustrious mr. kenway;5306859]To me Conner and the YJ4 need to do their nightwing phase. Spread their wings metaphorically and go find themselves.[/QUOTE]
Tim and Bart have both...kinda already done that. In fact Bart was kinda the first one to decide to step out of his namesake/mentor's shadow....By taking that mentor's old name....twice....baby steps lol
It's just a shame that Tim seems to be having a little regressive phase.
As for Conner, even before Jon came into the picture, it seemed like he'd been ready to move on from the Superboy name for a long time. As to what new name he'd take...I don't know. It's kinda plain but I wouldn't mind him just going by Kon-El.
[QUOTE=Prime;5306709]Again, something needs to be done about Conner. As long as Jon stays a teenager he loses any appeal.[/QUOTE]
This is funny, DC is making Jon into a "try hard" "golden child" and ppl don't like them, atleast not in the long run.kon is getting real development,but not in a artifical way like jon has been pushed his while existince.
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[QUOTE=Blue22;5306743]No. Jon's the only one who loses any appeal from this. They can forcefully push him as the new Superman, that nobody asked for, all they want but I think Conner's still the one with a higher chance of actually sticking around considering he's got all the personality, the decades worth of history, and (I assume) the larger fanbase. He might stagnate for a while again, and I'm still not sure how I feel about this suicide squad direction, but I don't think Conner's in any real danger yet.[/QUOTE]
Exaclty, ive been here since 93,jon as a teen is a new and flashy thing, you know "wow superman has a kid", Conner will be fine, actually better, time is in his side.
[QUOTE=the illustrious mr. kenway;5306859]To me Conner and the YJ4 need to do their nightwing phase. Spread their wings metaphorically and go find themselves.[/QUOTE]
This is what we fans of the YJ4 have been saying and wanting for a very long time now, and STILL hope it will happen someday.
[QUOTE=Prime;5306709]Again, something needs to be done about Conner. As long as Jon stays a teenager he loses any appeal.[/QUOTE]
Don’t know how you’re getting that. Conner is in Young Justice, Titans, he’s already connected with people in big outside media projects. And I’d argue the appeal of Kon lies moreso in his struggles with his Kent/Luthor heritage, enjoyment of his powers, and desire to be his own man more than anything else.
But I think Kon being on the Suicide Squad is going to open new paths of storytelling for him anyway.
Oh hey Gaelforce, if it’s ok with SuperX, we’re using this as the official thread can you capitalize “Kon-El”? It’s petty I know but it’s driving me nuts that it’s lowercase since it’s my preferred name for Kon.
[QUOTE=Blue22;5306872]Tim and Bart have both...kinda already done that. In fact Bart was kinda the first one to decide to step out of his namesake/mentor's shadow....By taking that mentor's old name....twice....baby steps lol
It's just a shame that Tim seems to be having a little regressive phase.
As for Conner, even before Jon came into the picture, it seemed like he'd been ready to move on from the Superboy name for a long time. As to what new name he'd take...I don't know. It's kinda plain but I wouldn't mind him just going by Kon-El.[/QUOTE]
Bart as Impulse is better than he is as kid flash Imo. He is his own character with thst name, he doesn't need to take another characters name to be successful.
Tim actually made the Robin name his own, in modern comics dick left it behind, and Tim came in, in a different and unique way, and has been a consistently great Robin since. I wouldn't really mind him staying Robin forever, I consider it his.
Kon/conner needs to move on, he is just begging for a push UP and OUT, it's so obvious, DC is really dumb for not doing it.
BTW for names
-Scion
Synergy
Supernova
Sentinel
Shepherd
Savior
Superstar
Safeguard
[QUOTE=Vordan;5306888]Don’t know how you’re getting that. Conner is in Young Justice, Titans, he’s already connected with people in big outside media projects. And I’d argue the appeal of Kon lies moreso in his struggles with his Kent/Luthor heritage, enjoyment of his powers, and desire to be his own man more than anything else.
But I think Kon being on the Suicide Squad is going to open new paths of storytelling for him anyway.
Oh hey Gaelforce, if it’s ok with SuperX, we’re using this as the official thread can you capitalize “Kon-El”? It’s petty I know but it’s driving me nuts that it’s lowercase since it’s my preferred name for Kon.[/QUOTE]
You hit it right on the head about kons appeal, and we fans are not going anywhere, because there is to much that you can do with those things.
Sorry Gaelforce
[QUOTE=SuperX;5306878]This is funny, DC is making Jon into a "try hard" "golden child" and ppl don't like them, atleast not in the long run.kon is getting real development,but not in a artifical way like jon has been pushed his while existince.
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I wouldn't say his whole existence but..uh...you know what? Happy thoughts. I'm not gonna derail the Conner thread with my thoughts on how Jon's been these past two years lol
That said, yeah. Conner's honestly looking like he's in a better position right now. I'm not a huge fan of depowering him and putting him on the Suicide Squad but it's at least something...interesting lol
[QUOTE=SuperX;5306896]Bart as Impulse is better than he is as kid flash Imo. He is his own character with thst name, he doesn't need to take another characters name to be successful. [/QUOTE]
I also prefer Bart as Impulse. But I liked what he was going for when he took the Kid Flash name. It's like what they're doing with Tim but it came off less like he's stuck in a role that he'd previously been moving away from for years. So it came off as a little less...pathetic.
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Kon/conner needs to move on, he is just begging for a push UP and OUT, it's so obvious, DC is really dumb for not doing it.
BTW for names
-Scion
Synergy
Supernova
Sentinel
Shepherd
Savior
Superstar
Safeguard[/QUOTE]
Oh. I actually like Superstar and Supernova.
[QUOTE=Blue22;5306925]I wouldn't say his whole existence but..uh...you know what? Happy thoughts. I'm not gonna derail the Conner thread with my thoughts on how Jon's been these past two years lol
That said, yeah. Conner's honestly looking like he's in a better position right now. I'm not a huge fan of depowering him and putting him on the Suicide Squad but it's at least something...interesting lol
I also prefer Bart as Impulse. But I liked what the was going for when he took the Kid Flash name. It's like what they're doing with Tim but it came off less like he's stuck in a role that he'd previously been moving away from for years. So it came off as a little less...pathetic.
Oh. I actually like Superstar and Supernova.[/QUOTE]
I actually like Jon, and read everything he is in, judt have a problem with his artifical push and DC giving kon the swerve because of it.
I don't mind the depowering if its showing him struggle and trying to overcome things, I would hate it if they just did it so Jon can be the superman who can be superman, and Kon can't, or if kon just keeps getting knocked down and never has a chance to get up.
I like the Impulse identity, but with real growth, and I like Tim being THE Robin with real growth
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I may be biased because it was in one of my first comics, and it's still my favorite Titsns run, but I actually really liked the simple t-shirt and Jean's look that Conner was rocking. Same goes for Cassie. It's not my preferred look for him anymore. But I didn't dislike it as much as a lot of fans tended to.
[QUOTE=Blue22;5307575]I may be biased because it was in one of my first comics, and it's still my favorite Titsns run, but I actually really liked the simple t-shirt and Jean's look that Conner was rocking. Same goes for Cassie. It's not my preferred look for him anymore. But I didn't dislike it as much as a lot of fans tended to.[/QUOTE]
It was the first look I was introduced to Conner in, so I do have some affinity for it as well :).
But I'm not against the 90's look. He really rocked it in the [I]Reign of the Supermen[/I] animated film ;).
[QUOTE=SuperX;5306896]Bart as Impulse is better than he is as kid flash Imo. He is his own character with thst name, he doesn't need to take another characters name to be successful.
Tim actually made the Robin name his own, in modern comics dick left it behind, and Tim came in, in a different and unique way, and has been a consistently great Robin since. I wouldn't really mind him staying Robin forever, I consider it his.
Kon/conner needs to move on, he is just begging for a push UP and OUT, it's so obvious, DC is really dumb for not doing it.
BTW for names
-Scion
Synergy
Supernova
Sentinel
Shepherd
Savior
Superstar
Safeguard[/QUOTE]
I thought that the codename, Superstar, sounds better if he had his superhero celebrity shtick back in the 90s which is now Kenan's shtick now. At first, I thought that Scion would be a good codename for Conner but it might fit better with Jon if he ever decides to go to the 'Nightwing' approach before he fully becomes Superman. I liked Synergy I was the one who said it could be a potential name for him including Superstar and Safeguard but I see why others from the previous thread would say it belongs to an Image character or it would fit for an electric-based hero maybe Synergy could be Strange Visitor's new codename and Sentinel belongs to Alan Scott but he has not used that name for a long while so I would be fine if it goes to Conner. I am leaning towards either Sentinel, Savior or Safeguard.
[QUOTE=Blue22;5307575]I may be biased because it was in one of my first comics, and it's still my favorite Titsns run, but I actually really liked the simple t-shirt and Jean's look that Conner was rocking. Same goes for Cassie. It's not my preferred look for him anymore. But I didn't dislike it as much as a lot of fans tended to.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Frontier;5307680]It was the first look I was introduced to Conner in, so I do have some affinity for it as well :).
But I'm not against the 90's look. He really rocked it in the [I]Reign of the Supermen[/I] animated film ;).[/QUOTE]
Same, I was introduced to him in Teen Titans because I was a fan of the Teen Titans show so I wanted to read the comics, and I like that he was wearing a causal superman shirt and jeans it kinda makes him a rebel of the Superman Family. As of right now, I would like to see his superhero costume to look closer to his DCAMU counterpart it was a perfect blend between two visual looks of Conner.
[QUOTE=Blue22;5307575]I may be biased because it was in one of my first comics, and it's still my favorite Titsns run, but I actually really liked the simple t-shirt and Jean's look that Conner was rocking. Same goes for Cassie. It's not my preferred look for him anymore. But I didn't dislike it as much as a lot of fans tended to.[/QUOTE]
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I liked it, I thought it was a continuation of his jacket, earing, and glasses cool relaxed rebel look he had, judt in a different way.
[QUOTE=Frontier;5307680]It was the first look I was introduced to Conner in, so I do have some affinity for it as well :).
But I'm not against the 90's look. He really rocked it in the [I]Reign of the Supermen[/I] animated film ;).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Incognito;5307726]I thought that the codename, Superstar, sounds better if he had his superhero celebrity shtick back in the 90s which is now Kenan's shtick now. At first, I thought that Scion would be a good codename for Conner but it might fit better with Jon if he ever decides to go to the 'Nightwing' approach before he fully becomes Superman. I liked Synergy I was the one who said it could be a potential name for him including Superstar and Safeguard but I see why others from the previous thread would say it belongs to an Image character or it would fit for an electric-based hero maybe Synergy could be Strange Visitor's new codename and Sentinel belongs to Alan Scott but he has not used that name for a long while so I would be fine if it goes to Conner. I am leaning towards either Sentinel, Savior or Safeguard.
Same, I was introduced to him in Teen Titans because I was a fan of the Teen Titans show so I wanted to read the comics, and I like that he was wearing a causal superman shirt and jeans it kinda makes him a rebel of the Superman Family. As of right now, I would like to see his superhero costume to look closer to his DCAMU counterpart it was a perfect blend between two visual looks of Conner.[/QUOTE]
I guess it all. Depends on how you see him or want him to be going forward for hero names. Sentinel would be my chose, but I'm sure Alan Scott or. Some other character wouldn't allow that.
Well jon lane Kent wore this
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It was pretty close, but I want the black in the S, thsts his thing imo
[QUOTE=Blue22;5306872]Tim and Bart have both...kinda already done that. In fact Bart was kinda the first one to decide to step out of his namesake/mentor's shadow....By taking that mentor's old name....twice....baby steps lol
It's just a shame that Tim seems to be having a little regressive phase.
As for Conner, even before Jon came into the picture, it seemed like he'd been ready to move on from the Superboy name for a long time. As to what new name he'd take...I don't know. It's kinda plain but I wouldn't mind him just going by Kon-El.[/QUOTE]
I didn't know if those stories were canon. Even if they are, I don't mind trying again with a different setup.
[QUOTE=SuperX;5306704]Well WE r using this one lol[/QUOTE]
I can think of nothing more Conner than refusing to use the official hangout and doubling down on using the impromptu one. Hah. Well-done.
If they're going with Vordan's take on Kon with the Suicide Squad, it could work, but I'm skeptical otherwise. Hope 2021 treats the Metropolis Kid well.
[QUOTE=the illustrious mr. kenway;5307832]I didn't know if those stories were canon. Even if they are, I don't mind trying again with a different setup.[/QUOTE]
Well with Johns' Titans back in continuity (man, the Titans history has gotten messy lol), I would think those events are canon again.
[QUOTE=Blue22;5307973][B]Well with Johns' Titans back in continuity [/B](man, the Titans history has gotten messy lol), I would think those events are canon again.[/QUOTE]
I see 2021 has already started giving back with its monkey's paw. :/
[QUOTE=Robanker;5307990]I see 2021 has already started giving back with its monkey's paw. :/[/QUOTE]
Oh this was before 2021. I made that wish a while ago and apparently the monkey's paw twist for me was losing Jon XD
I wanna say it was worth it to have the Pre-Flashpoint Titans back. But...we'll see how this Titans academy thing plays out.
Since they got their memories back in the new YJ book they been acting like they had their old history back,and Kon was going at it with Prime (verbally only) just last week, while wearing his new "punk" look, so it's safe to say it's back.
I love the young SB, but it's time for him to be slightly older, with a slightly more YJ show type look than the cool kid look, atleast now, unless they have flashbacks or de age him
I actually think Bendis' YJ did a good job making him look older while also giving him a look that's closer to his classic one. I wouldn't necessarily mind seeing him and the rest of the YJ4 getting another overhaul on their costumes to reflect them getting older. But I'm also fine with where they're at now.
That said, with this new Wonder Girl on the horizon I am slightly worried about what'll be done with Cassie.
[QUOTE=Blue22;5308045]I actually think Bendis' YJ did a good job making him look older while also giving him a look that's closer to his classic one. I wouldn't necessarily mind seeing him and the rest of the YJ4 getting another overhaul on their costumes to reflect them getting older. But I'm also fine with where they're at now.
That said, with this new Wonder Girl on the horizon I am slightly worried about what'll be done with Cassie.[/QUOTE]
They went to far with his supersuit this time, but really if they just got rid of those spikes in his shoulders and those hooker boots he wears it would probably work for me. Course with the black in his S.
We should all be worried about Cassie now, the other 3 of the YJ4 could pop up in their flagship comic, but Cassie is gonna be out in the cold, DC can only have one of anything (unless ur a GL), so I'm sad for that
It's unfortunate that Conner only became superman as a ride with a bunch of billable on a twisted evil earth, plus having thst haircut.
[QUOTE=SuperX;5308275]It's unfortunate that Conner only became superman as a ride with a bunch of billable on a twisted evil earth, plus having thst haircut.[/QUOTE]
I dont mind the haircut it's the team thats bothering me (and the cape, I don't like capes on Kon). Now if the FS story can expose another side of Kon thats fun and engaging then I'll give it a pass. A good story is a good story.
I mean supposedly he’s not the only hero in Future State to join up with Waller, apparently that female Flash who supposedly goes by Bolt is the girl with the Flash pen on Teen Titans Academy, which as a side note is not a great track record if your student goes on to be a member of the Suicide Squad.
Personally I’m interested to see how he plays with Waller, clearly we know Conner is a good person from his time alongside Clark, Young Justice, and the Teen Titans. What gets him on this journey and how it all plays out will really be the interesting part if you ask me.
[QUOTE=9th.;5308469]I dont mind the haircut it's the team thats bothering me (and the cape, I don't like capes on Kon). Now if the FS story can expose another side of Kon thats fun and engaging then I'll give it a pass. A good story is a good story.[/QUOTE]
That hair bothers me lol, maybe not end of the world bothering me, but he should have the hair you see on the YJ show, it's short and simple.
I totally absolutely agree about the cape, Kon should not have one. He was created to be superman, so the most not thing to do like superman is to not wear a cape. That's why he wears the jacket.
I hope the writer actually has a good plan for Kon, and not just superficial "he's there" stuff.
[QUOTE=sifighter;5308481]I mean supposedly he’s not the only hero in Future State to join up with Waller, apparently that female Flash who supposedly goes by Bolt is the girl with the Flash pen on Teen Titans Academy, which as a side note is not a great track record if your student goes on to be a member of the Suicide Squad.
Personally I’m interested to see how he plays with Waller, clearly we know Conner is a good person from his time alongside Clark, Young Justice, and the Teen Titans. What gets him on this journey and how it all plays out will really be the interesting part if you ask me.[/QUOTE]
It all comes back to why he would team up with waller, what does she have in him or what can she do for him, thst is the question.
This could really be a great thing for Conner, we fans can see the possibilities I hope the writer can also
[QUOTE=SuperX;5306896] Bart as Impulse is better than he is as kid flash Imo. He is his own character with thst name, he doesn't need to take another characters name to be successful. [/quote]
Agreed.
[quote] BTW for names
Scion
Synergy
Supernova
Sentinel
Shepherd
Savior
Superstar
Safeguard [/QUOTE]
The only one I didn't hate was Red Son (still has a prominent S in it, just not the starting letter), with him being called 'Red' for short (somewhat less appropriate now that he wears blue jeans and a black T-shirt, but he was in the red tights at the time).