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[QUOTE=Petrus7;4784747]Not to mention Green Lantern: Hal Jordan vol. 2, Superman/Batman vol.6, Superman Blue vol.2, Catwoman by Jim Balent vol.3
The most depressing is that Didio proved himself clueless in his job. On numerous occasions he was complaining that people want older stories. So what seems to be problematic? Sell older stuff! How! Didio does not have to reinvent a wheel. Just copy Marvel's approach. Print 3 formats - Omni, Archives and epic own line. It is not a rocket science.[/QUOTE]
Welcome and way to come in hot on your first post!
I'll repeat myself, but how can you look at Epic Collections sales and not just do the same thing? Maybe don't go as bold as Marvel and just start with a few things - Silver Age complete collections of Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Justice League, etc. Build out from there. Do SOMETHING!
[QUOTE=SJNeal;4784976]You guys are just twisting the knife, thanks... :mad: :p[/QUOTE]
Sorry? I'm still livid about the Cassandra Cain thing. One more collection would have gotten them to War Games and then all of her run would at least be collected *somewhere*. It's one g.d. collection!
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[QUOTE=bob.schoonover;4784327]Don't forget Robin v6, Azrael v2, Kyle Rayner v2/3 (I forget which was cancelled), and the high likelihood that Shadow of the Bat is ending at v4[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SJNeal;4784251]If I've had to stop waiting for PAD's[I] Aquaman[/I] v3 (and PAD's [I]Supergirl[/I] V5, and Ostrander's 3rd vols. of [I]The Spectre[/I] and [I]Martian Manhunter[/I], and Dixon's [I]Birds of Prey[/I] v4 and [I]Legionnaires[/I] v3 and [I]The Legion by Abnett & Lanning[/I] v3) then yes, you should stop waiting for [I]Batgirl[/I] v4. ;)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Petrus7;4784747]Not to mention Green Lantern: Hal Jordan vol. 2, Superman/Batman vol.6, Superman Blue vol.2, Catwoman by Jim Balent vol.3[/QUOTE]
ARGH. I didn’t even realize some of these had been orphaned! I have so many of these series. :’(
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[QUOTE=SJNeal;4784976]You guys are just twisting the knife, thanks... :mad: :p[/QUOTE]
Get ready for another twist:(
I have counted 17 paperback lines cancelled/orphaned. Apart from that, Animal Man Deluxe HC vol. 2 and JLA BA Omni vol. 3 as well as B&B Omni vol. 3.
Excuse for the Omnis' cancellation, made by our favourite Dan, was that they will try another approach with TPB in the first place... right. He clearly has no clue what is doing, he acts like a headless chicken. Moreover, what Jim Lee is doing? They both clearly do not care anymore.
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The Robin Bronze Age has been canceled?
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Can I get a whole list of orphaned/cancelled titles?
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[QUOTE=theegreatone;4785770]Can I get a whole list of orphaned/cancelled titles?[/QUOTE]
You might ask for a list of completed series prior to the New 52, it’d be a whole heckuva lot shorter; shorter still if you make a list of titles/runs that have been reprinted in full AND all volumes are still in print.
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[QUOTE=Graphic Autist;4785196]The Robin Bronze Age has been canceled?[/QUOTE]
Not yet, but who knows if it will last.
Everyone should send Dan a facebook message letting him know how bad they are messing up.
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[QUOTE=bob.schoonover;4785005]Welcome and way to come in hot on your first post![/QUOTE]
Thank you. It is a pity it was made out of frustration. Due to my employment obligations I usually do not have time to participate in forum discussions, but Didio pushed the limits of my patience.
[QUOTE=bob.schoonover;4785005]I'll repeat myself, but how can you look at Epic Collections sales and not just do the same thing? Maybe don't go as bold as Marvel and just start with a few things - Silver Age complete collections of Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Justice League, etc. Build out from there. Do SOMETHING![/QUOTE]
I completely agree. They launched the Essential line, then the Golden/Silver/Bronze TPB line. In the both cases, they are failing. I fought that especially the Essential line would be DC' response to the epic line.
Moreover, why is it so difficult to implement the Epic line solutions into the Omnis' dust jackets?
Didio does not have to downsize or cancel the lines, just hide the freaking volume number and add subtitle to the spine.
[QUOTE=bob.schoonover;4785005]Sorry? I'm still livid about the Cassandra Cain thing. One more collection would have gotten them to War Games and then all of her run would at least be collected *somewhere*. It's one g.d. collection![/QUOTE]
Yes, indeed. Luckily, Stephanie Browns' run was completed.
[QUOTE=theegreatone;4785770]Can I get a whole list of orphaned/cancelled titles?[/QUOTE]
There is the list based on my former collections and the previous cancelled pre-orders. Feel free to update it, if you want.
[B]Paperbacks. Cancelled/orphaned series:[/B]
1. Azrael by Danny O'neill and others vol. 2
2. Aquaman by Peter David vol. 3
3. Batman Shaman - cancelled
4. Batgirl. Cassandra Cain run, vol. 4
5. Birds of Prey by Chuck Dixon vol. 4
6. Catwoman by Jim Balent vo.l 3
7. Green Lantern: Hal Jordan vol. 2,
8. Green Lantern: Kyle Rayner vol. 3
9. The Legion by Abnett & Lanning vo. 3
10. Martian Manhunter by John Ostrander vol. 2 or 3
11. Robin. Tim Drake run by Chuck Dixon vol. 6
12. Supergirl by Peter David vol. 5
13. Superman/Batman vol.6,
14. Superman Blue vol.2,
15. Shadow of the Bat vol.5 No news about this run. DC forgot about it, apparently.
16. Spectre by John Ostrander vol. 3
[B]Hardcovers/Deluxe/Omni:[/B]
1. Animal Man Deluxe HC vol. 2. No news at all.
2. JLA BA Omni vol. 3 replaced with standard HC
3. B&B Omni vol. 3
4. Tales of the Batman by Alan Davis vol 2. Replaced with the Caped Crusader TPB line
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[QUOTE=Petrus7;4786182]
[B]Paperbacks. Cancelled/orphaned series:[/B]
6. Catwoman by Jim Balent vo.l 2
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This one, they did release.
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[QUOTE=Petrus7;4786182]
2. JLA BA Omni vol. 3 replaced with standard HC
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What is the book that replaced it?
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[QUOTE=Petrus7;4786182]There is the list based on my former collections and the previous cancelled pre-orders. Feel free to update it, if you want.
[B]Paperbacks. Cancelled/orphaned series:[/B]
1. Azrael by Danny O'neill and others vol. 2
2. Aquaman by Peter David vol. 3
3. Batman Shaman - cancelled
4. Batgirl. Cassandra Cain run, vol. 4
5. Birds of Prey by Chuck Dixon vol. 4
6. Catwoman by Jim Balent vo.l 2
7. Green Lantern: Hal Jordan vol. 2,
8. Green Lantern: Kyle Rayner vol. 3
9. The Legion by Abnett & Lanning vo. 3
10. Martian Manhunter by John Ostrander vol. 2 or 3
11. Robin. Tim Drake run by Chuck Dixon vol. 6
12. Supergirl by Peter David vol. 5
13. Superman/Batman vol.6,
14. Superman Blue vol.2,
15. Shadow of the Bat vol.5 No news about this run. DC forgot about it, apparently.
16. Spectre by John Ostrander vol. 3[/QUOTE]
Superboy by Kesel/Grummet had 1 volume then ended
Justice League International had 6 volumes then ended
Legionnaires (Zero Hour LoSH) got 2 volumes then ended
Impulse has had a small TPB, large TPB, and Omnibus all solicited then cancelled.
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[QUOTE=Petrus7;4786182]
[B]Paperbacks. Cancelled/orphaned series:[/B]
1. Azrael by Danny O'neill and others vol. 2
2. Aquaman by Peter David vol. 3
3. Batman Shaman - cancelled
4. Batgirl. Cassandra Cain run, vol. 4
5. Birds of Prey by Chuck Dixon vol. 4
6. Catwoman by Jim Balent vo.l 2
7. Green Lantern: Hal Jordan vol. 2,
8. Green Lantern: Kyle Rayner vol. 3
9. The Legion by Abnett & Lanning vo. 3
10. Martian Manhunter by John Ostrander vol. 2 or 3
11. Robin. Tim Drake run by Chuck Dixon vol. 6
12. Supergirl by Peter David vol. 5
13. Superman/Batman vol.6,
14. Superman Blue vol.2,
15. Shadow of the Bat vol.5 No news about this run. DC forgot about it, apparently.
16. Spectre by John Ostrander vol. 3
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Sandman Mystery Theatre had volumes 1 and 2 and stopped, so that can go on the list too.
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[QUOTE=ShooCat;4786205]This one, they did release.[/QUOTE]
My bad. It was volume 3 that got cancelled. Fixed
[QUOTE=Judge Dredd;4786238]What is the book that replaced it?[/QUOTE]
[B]
JLA BA Omni vol 3[/B] should collect: The Justice League of America #147-181, page count 848 pages.
Then DC downsized as well as reduced the page count and spawned:
[B]
Justice League of America: The Wedding of the Atom and Jean Loring HC[/B] (standard)
Collecting: The Justice League of America #149-158 and Super-Team Family #13-14, page count: 416 pages.
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So are we getting a John Byrne Superman collection or not?
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[QUOTE=Petrus7;4786283]
JLA BA Omni vol 3[/B] should collect: The Justice League of America #147-181, page count 848 pages.
Then DC downsized as well as reduced the page count and spawned:
[B]
Justice League of America: The Wedding of the Atom and Jean Loring HC[/B] (standard)
Collecting: The Justice League of America #149-158 and Super-Team Family #13-14, page count: 416 pages.[/QUOTE]
So they're leaving a gap of 3 issues for those of us trying to collect a complete run??