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[QUOTE=bat1987;3073076]I liked it too, batman sides with riddler on condition riddler's men don't kill anyone. So for the time being he only has the joker to deal with. He will betray the riddler by the end I'm sure. King said, as long as he's on the tittle Batman will always be Bruce and will always be a good guy. Though i'm curious what's that horrible thing Batman did during the war.[/QUOTE]
I'm wondering the same thing. I'm also wondering if this "horrible thing" is something Batman, while not being the one who actually did it, is taking responsibility for doing. I imagine this War is going to cause both in lives and in other collateral damage and Bruce is the sort who would blame himself if his involvement with Riddler resulted in a lot of people getting hurt anyway. He is siding with the lesser of two evils and his motivation for doing so is likely because he wants to protect as many innocence people as possible.
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[QUOTE=JasonTodd428;3073127]I'm wondering the same thing. I'm also wondering if this "horrible thing" is something Batman, while not being the one who actually did it, is taking responsibility for doing. I imagine this War is going to cause both in lives and in other collateral damage and Bruce is the sort who would blame himself if his involvement with Riddler resulted in a lot of people getting hurt anyway. He is siding with the lesser of two evils and his motivation for doing so is likely because he wants to protect as many innocence people as possible.[/QUOTE]
Maybe he had something to do with Kite Man's kid's death??
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LoL, Kite Man alone in that theater clapping had me laughing.
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I laughed in the Mr Freeze scene hahaha, that was genius
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This is such a strange arc imo. It feels like so much is rushed or happening off panel and is just told to us. Like I don't feel the weight of this war, it being so bad the city is a war zone and Batman has no choice but to take a side. It feels like I'm missing half the issues.
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I could see this being something that's revisited off and on.
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Did Riddler kill Kite Man's kid and Batman just stood there?
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[QUOTE=bat1987;3073076]I liked it too, batman sides with riddler on condition riddler's men don't kill anyone. So for the time being he only has the joker to deal with. He will betray the riddler by the end I'm sure. King said, as long as he's on the tittle Batman will always be Bruce and will always be a good guy. Though i'm curious what's that horrible thing Batman did during the war.[/QUOTE]
You mean besides getting Kite Man's kid killed? Besides getting those hostages killed? Besides working for a mass murderer? Hell, take your pick, because he hasn't really done shit else besides bang Catwoman and invite Joker and Riddler to dinner while people are dying in droves.
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The art is great in this series but the story telling is crap.
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[QUOTE=Zeeguy91;3068917]"I guess he's doing Riddler things now"?
The dialogue in this book...[/QUOTE]
... is amazing and unlike anything we've seen in a Batman book before? I was about to say the same thing.
Different strokes, as they say.
I read this issue like I was a kid again discovering what made me love Batman and his whole supporting cast, and in fresh, imaginative ways like [I]panel by panel[/I]. I actually thought while reading this issue, this issue is getting better by the [I]panel.[/I]
"To each his Dulcinea" as The Man of La Mancha goes and I always say everyone's opinion is the correct opinion and the only opinion they could have, so I don't dismiss yours or call you wrong. You aren't. You're right, for you.
My experience has been the opposite. 45 years of obsessive reading of Batman comics (every single one from then on plus a TON of back issues) and Tom King's run is actually my very favorite of all time. I've never loved anything more than Batman comics and I've never loved Batman comics as much as I am now, during King's run.
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[QUOTE=BatmanJones;3074611]... is amazing and unlike anything we've seen in a Batman book before? I was about to say the same thing.[/QUOTE]
Nope. I was gonna say the exact opposite.
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I think people might had been expecting to see the actual war. So Bruce would tell the flashback and then the next pages would be the story in the past.
But we actually are seeing the war, it's just I think some readers were thinking we would see more of it. Like, seeing the Rogues kill people vs. seeing bodies on top of bodies while Bruce is talking about how people were dying.
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[QUOTE=WontonGirl;3075143]I think people might had been expecting to see the actual war. So Bruce would tell the flashback and then the next pages would be the story in the past.
But we actually are seeing the war, it's just I think some readers were thinking we would see more of it. Like, seeing the Rogues kill people vs. seeing bodies on top of bodies while Bruce is talking about how people were dying.[/QUOTE]
Indeed I was expecting the battle of the bastards in comic form.
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Is there any reason Batman couldn't have just been doing all of this on his own? He seems to be doing most of the work of stopping the villains so I'm not sure why he needs to work with RIddler unless it's the manpower of Riddler's villains that's making the difference. But it still seems like he could just as easily be taking the baddies out on his own.
I've never seen Wesker go feral over losing Scarface. Granted, this version of Wesker is a little more bulky then usual...
And why the heck is Man-Bat on Riddler side? What does Langstrom get out of this? He shouldn't even be transformed at this point unless they've altered Man-Bat's New 52 origin :confused:.
[QUOTE=WhiteQueenEmmaFrost;3073545]Did Riddler kill Kite Man's kid and Batman just stood there?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that really threw me off. I know Batman will probably betray Riddler in the end but watching just stand there, interrogating Kite Man, while Riddler mentions with glee how he killed Kite Man's kid just felt really off.
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[QUOTE=Frontier;3075799]Yeah, that really threw me off. I know Batman will probably betray Riddler in the end but watching just stand there, interrogating Kite Man, while Riddler mentions with glee how he killed Kite Man's kid just felt really off.[/QUOTE]
I read a theory that Batman wasn't actually in this issue. Riddler's just disguising several of his allies as him to play mind games.