Didn't see a thread for just general stuff that's happening in the comics. So, figured I'd make this.
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Didn't see a thread for just general stuff that's happening in the comics. So, figured I'd make this.
WW issue 763 was plain to me, Diana feels weak the revelation was seen miles away and overall just didn't work well. There is no action on the level Diana should be I fear this is a continuing trend for her solo title.
Its also again confirmed that Post-Crisis, Nu52, and Rebirth WW are the same WW.
Really don't have much to say about the current run. I realize that they're aiming for an easily accessible story to tie in with the movie, but I'm disappointed Orlando is gone and the conclusion to his run was haphazardly rushed.
Really hope we eventually get an expansion on Donna's origin from Orlando's run. I'm glad we got back what I feel is the essential core of her origin back with being adopted and trained by Diana and Hippolyta. Now if only they can fill in the remaining questions like whom Diana rescued a young Donna from being used as a weapon by.
For the current run with Tamaki I'm pretty lukewarm on it but there are a few eyebrow raising moments as a continuity freak and make me wonder what the current timeline is.
So Maxwell Lord gained knowledge of the Pre-flashpoint universe, But none of the events involving him actually happened in continuity? But elsewhere there have been occasional mentions of JLI like it actually happened like Ted and Booster being friends.
Also random panel of Diana in her New 52 costume talking to Real Brunette Hippolyta, not Blonde New 52 holodeck Hippolyta. Not sure when this could have occurred.
Zeus origin is still canon unfortunately. Something about the way he's described in the panel where he's juxtaposed with Hippolyta kind of bothers me.
[QUOTE]I too had a powerful father, A man who took what he wanted and crushed those who stood in his way
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Makes it seem like they're implying him and Hippolyta wasn't a consensual thing. I'm conflicted. I'm all for Zeus being portrayed as an asshole, but if they're going this route with Diana's conception I rather they use Hercules. Or better yet don't do it this way at all and use the clay origin.
With Red Hood going solo, I hope Artemis gets moved back to Diana's supporting cast and shows up soon.
[QUOTE=Artemisfanboy;5166155]Really don't have much to say about the current run. I realize that they're aiming for an easily accessible story to tie in with the movie, but I'm disappointed Orlando is gone and the conclusion to his run was haphazardly rushed.
Really hope we eventually get an expansion on Donna's origin from Orlando's run. I'm glad we got back what I feel is the essential core of her origin back with being adopted and trained by Diana and Hippolyta. Now if only they can fill in the remaining questions like whom Diana rescued a young Donna from being used as a weapon by.
For the current run with Tamaki I'm pretty lukewarm on it but there are a few eyebrow raising moments as a continuity freak and make me wonder what the current timeline is.
So Maxwell Lord gained knowledge of the Pre-flashpoint universe, But none of the events involving him actually happened in continuity? But elsewhere there have been occasional mentions of JLI like it actually happened like Ted and Booster being friends.
Also random panel of Diana in her New 52 costume talking to Real Brunette Hippolyta, not Blonde New 52 holodeck Hippolyta. Not sure when this could have occurred.
Zeus origin is still canon unfortunately. Something about the way he's described in the panel where he's juxtaposed with Hippolyta kind of bothers me.
Makes it seem like they're implying him and Hippolyta wasn't a consensual thing. I'm conflicted. I'm all for Zeus being portrayed as an asshole, but if they're going this route with Diana's conception I rather they use Hercules. Or better yet don't do it this way at all and use the clay origin.
With Red Hood going solo, [B]I hope Artemis gets moved back to Diana's supporting cast and shows up soon[/B].[/QUOTE]
Yeah, with Donna and Cassie being more Titan and YJ characters I wouldn't want to lose Artemis also.
Count me among those who miss Donna, Cassie and Artemis in the Wonder books. Hope they're back sooner rather than later.
Maria Mendoza made an appearance in the METAL tie in book this week, she fought superwoman.
[QUOTE=masterwitcher88;5168333]Maria Mendoza made an appearance in the METAL tie in book this week, she fought superwoman.[/QUOTE]
Save for the metal sock helmet, I always dug her white and gold outfit.
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[QUOTE=Gaelforce;5168602]Please note that this is a Spoiler-Free thread.
If you want to discuss specifics of ongoing issues, please create an appropriate [SPOILER] thread.
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Sorry about that. Didn't know... I placed a spoiler warning so people can enter knowing there will be spoilers.
Thank you!
I wonder do you think Diana and Dick Grayson would get along? The time don't ofte interact
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5178601]I wonder do you think Diana and Dick Grayson would get along? The time don't ofte interact[/QUOTE]
Yes? idk why they wouldn't.
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5178601]I wonder do you think Diana and Dick Grayson would get along? The time don't ofte interact[/QUOTE]
Dick seems to be one good terms with most of the major figures of superhero community, so probably would I’d guess.
Though honestly I think she’s had a more memorable interaction with Jason than Dick when talking Robins.
I just would like that she had some role in helping all the robins even if it's not big. I only ask since Dick never gets to be outside many books. I would love to see Dick and Wonder Woman interacted more
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5178601]I wonder do you think Diana and Dick Grayson would get along? The time don't ofte interact[/QUOTE]
I can't recall a time they didn't. She seems to like him quite a bit (as a pseudo-nephew) even when she disagrees with Bruce and his child soldier recruitment policy.
I would love to see them work together. Like Maybe Dick finds a magic item and he goes to Diana?
[QUOTE=AmiMizuno;5179270]I would love to see them work together. Like Maybe Dick finds a magic item and he goes to Diana?[/QUOTE]
My two favs! Would love so team ups with them.
Watching the Lynda Carter series, something I wondered about--and I didn't want to start a whole new thread for it so I'll pose it here--what age is Stever Trevor, Jr.? In the first episode of THE NEW ADVENTURES OF WONDER WOMAN, in 1977, Steve Trevor, Jr., is introduced as the son of the original Steve Trevor. He knows that his dad had adventures up until 1945 with Wonder Woman. Lyle Waggoner was born in 1935 and on the show he certainly doesn't look 32--which is the oldest he could be if he was born in 1945. So either he was born at the time Steve Sr. was adventuring with Diana--and she never knew that her Steve was with someone else (presumably his wife)--or before that and maybe dad divorced the wife before the war and Junior was living with his mom, while dad was in Washington with Diana.
I'm sure I'm not the first person to make this observation--and I think it must have occurred to me when the show was originally on. The explanation that he was Steve's son--and not Diana's son, too--never sat well with me. It either means Steve Sr. got over his feelings for Diana very quickly, at the end of the war, or he had this whole other life and family that he never talked about with Diana during the war years.
[QUOTE=Jim Kelly;5181979]Watching the Lynda Carter series, something I wondered about--and I didn't want to start a whole new thread for it so I'll pose it here--what age is Stever Trevor, Jr.? In the first episode of THE NEW ADVENTURES OF WONDER WOMAN, in 1977, Steve Trevor, Jr., is introduced as the son of the original Steve Trevor. He knows that his dad had adventures up until 1945 with Wonder Woman. Lyle Waggoner was born in 1935 and on the show he certainly doesn't look 32--which is the oldest he could be if he was born in 1945. So either he was born at the time Steve Sr. was adventuring with Diana--and she never knew that her Steve was with someone else (presumably his wife)--or before that and maybe dad divorced the wife before the war and Junior was living with his mom, while dad was in Washington with Diana.
I'm sure I'm not the first person to make this observation--and I think it must have occurred to me when the show was originally on. The explanation that he was Steve's son--and not Diana's son, too--never sat well with me. It either means Steve Sr. got over his feelings for Diana very quickly, at the end of the war, or he had this whole other life and family that he never talked about with Diana during the war years.[/QUOTE]
I think we have to assume that Steve Jr. was no more than 31 in 1977, despite Waggoner’s real age and appearance. Jr. was a very seasoned, mature-looking 31. ;-)
Also, I don’t think the ABC episodes went beyond 1942. We might speculate that off-screen Diana and Steve concluded that a romantic relationship would never work and that Steve may have been seeing someone else near the war’s end.
[QUOTE=masterwitcher88;5165887]WW issue 763 was plain to me, Diana feels weak the revelation was seen miles away and overall just didn't work well. There is no action on the level Diana should be I fear this is a continuing trend for her solo title.
Its also again confirmed that Post-Crisis, Nu52, and Rebirth WW are the same WW.[/QUOTE]
What do you mean??? DC wiped out the Post-crisis, Nu52!! Why wouldn't the Rebirth WW be the same??
[QUOTE=lotchj;5182183]What do you mean??? DC wiped out the Post-crisis, Nu52!! Why wouldn't the Rebirth WW be the same??[/QUOTE]
Well, as least as per Doomsday Clock, each reality is it's own Earth. So the series revealed that instead of each reality shattering event destroying what came before, instead it splintered off a new Earth with it's own new reality and history. So Golden Age Diana, Silver/Bronze Age Diana, post Crisis Diana, nu 52 Diana Rebirth Diana, are all their own separate versions each on their own respective Earth.
[QUOTE=wonder39;5182244]Well, as least as per Doomsday Clock, each reality is it's own Earth. So the series revealed that instead of each reality shattering event destroying what came before, instead it splintered off a new Earth with it's own new reality and history. So Golden Age Diana, Silver/Bronze Age Diana, post Crisis Diana, nu 52 Diana Rebirth Diana, are all their own separate versions each on their own respective Earth.[/QUOTE]
OK!! Didn't know that!!! I didn't read the Doomsday Clock series yet!!!
[QUOTE=wonder39;5182244]Well, as least as per Doomsday Clock, each reality is it's own Earth. So the series revealed that instead of each reality shattering event destroying what came before, instead it splintered off a new Earth with it's own new reality and history. So Golden Age Diana, Silver/Bronze Age Diana, post Crisis Diana, nu 52 Diana Rebirth Diana, are all their own separate versions each on their own respective Earth.[/QUOTE]
Except that hasn't translated to anything outside of doomsday clock and is provably shown otherwise.
Just saw the sneak peak at issue 764 and I am just not interested in any of it. Tamaki has the bones of a basic comic story but her executions have so far been piss poor. Dull story telling and this continued team up is not something I'm going to spend money on.
Is anyone even still buying this book?
[QUOTE=masterwitcher88;5184757]Just saw the sneak peak at issue 764 and I am just not interested in any of it. Tamaki has the bones of a basic comic story but her executions have so far been piss poor. Dull story telling and this continued team up is not something I'm going to spend money on.
Is anyone even still buying this book?[/QUOTE]
Had to tighten the belt recently so this was something I had to drop. Only DC book I’m keeping with has been Green Lantern.
[QUOTE=masterwitcher88;5182604]Except that hasn't translated to anything outside of doomsday clock and is provably shown otherwise.[/QUOTE]
Which i fault the powers that be for... they crated a simple and elegant solution for all these varying realities, but force Death Metal and (almost) 5G on us....
This is a GREAT blog post, showing all of us what the WW comic is sorely missing, right now, ..and has been, for several decades. What's that? Characters, we care about and look forward to seeing and coming back for... [B][URL="https://www.comicbookherald.com/wonder-woman-historia-part-three-dianas-allies/"]Wonder Woman Historia...Diana’s Allies![/URL][/B]
I'd forgotten all about [B]Metala,[/B] before reading this.
The latest issue of Agent of Peace featured Cassie. At this point it's almost surreal to see her in a WW comic...
[QUOTE=Psy-lock;5197962]The latest issue of Agent of Peace featured Cassie. At this point it's almost surreal to see her in a WW comic...[/QUOTE]
Didn’t realize they had more issues to publish for AoP.
Looks like next issue will feature Devastation.
A WONDERful message from Lynda Carter to we Wonder Fans...! [URL="http://https://www.themarysue.com/lynda-carter-wonder-woman-fandom-love-letter/amp/"]http://https://www.themarysue.com/lynda-carter-wonder-woman-fandom-love-letter/amp/[/URL]
Does anyone think the Netflix release of Blood of Zeus or the success of Harley Quinn Animated Series has at least started discussions of a Wonder Woma Animated Series? Obviously, I don't ask anyone to have a serious answer to that, but I did wonder if you think these releases show WB that there could be a substantial market for a WWAS.
If so, I would actually love a season one (of say 12-15 commercial-free 30-minute episodes) based on Rucka's Year One. I think some changes I would make is Dr. Barbara Ann works at the Smithsonian with Etta who is a lawyer. Steve could still be a soldier at Argus (with Sasha as his boss), and Diana gets a position at the Smithsonian, as well.
I would also have it be the real Ares as her big bad, but Dr. Poison, Paula (as the leader of Team Sear), Max Lord (as the non-META head of a weapons development and manufacturing company), Duke Deception (with Reality Warping powers) and Giganta as the rogues for her first season. (Dr. Psycho,Dr. Cyber, Circe and their travels to the cursed land of Urzkataga) could be added to her rogues for season 2.
With the need for content for HBO Max, the long delay of Wonder Woman1984, the enthusiastic fan reaction to Yara that shows that the Wonder mythos has a large fanbase starving for content, and the fact that animation has always been a strong suit for DC, I'm hoping discussions of a WWAS with Patty Jenkins as a producer/executive (and Gal Gadot, too, but not required) are in serious considerations right now.
The current run is so boring and unremarkable, it makes me want to cry. No Wonder Rogues, Max Lord is Diana's sidekick instead of Etta, Artemis or the Wonder Girls...It just doesn't feel like Wonder Woman to me, you can replace Diana with any street level hero and there won't be much difference. And the fact that the art changes every two issues doesn't help either.
[QUOTE=Psy-lock;5209713]The current run is so boring and unremarkable, it makes me want to cry. No Wonder Rogues, Max Lord is Diana's sidekick instead of Etta, Artemis or the Wonder Girls...It just doesn't feel like Wonder Woman to me, you can replace Diana with any street level hero and there won't be much difference. And the fact that the art changes every two issues doesn't help either.[/QUOTE]
Had to drop it mainly because I found it largely unmemorable but yeah this hasn't done Max any favors for those say he'd make a great WW supporting character/villain.
The constant art team changes got to me also, normally I don't let art changes get to me but I kind of wish the series would go back to monthly if it meant a more consistent artist.
[QUOTE=Gaius;5209763]Had to drop it mainly because I found it largely unmemorable but yeah this hasn't done Max any favors for those say he'd make a great WW supporting character/villain.
The constant art team changes got to me also, normally I don't let art changes get to me but I kind of wish the series would go back to monthly if it meant a more consistent artist.[/QUOTE]
Seriously, thank god for Agent of Peace. The stories may not be great, but at least they feature her actual supporting characters/villains. What would I give for a permanent return of Sensation! Then at least if the main title is bad we'd have a second option.
[QUOTE=Psy-lock;5209791]Seriously, thank god for Agent of Peace. The stories may not be great, but at least they feature her actual supporting characters/villains. What would I give for a permanent return of Sensation! Then at least if the main title is bad we'd have a second option.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's the thing for the most part with WW. If the main title ain't doing it for you, that's what you're largely stuck with. Cause it ain't like she'll be done better in Justice League or something:p
I think the non-Connor/Palmiotti issus of AoP have been generally decent though I'm just happy there's a digital series for WW so she isn't stuck appearing in lame series like the Injustice or DCeased on that front.
Going by spoilers for WW84. [SPOIL] Max may not even remain a villain up until the end of the movie which makes this hamfisted synergy even more pointless.[/SPOIL]
[QUOTE=Gaius;5209763]Had to drop it mainly because I found it largely unmemorable but yeah [B]this hasn't done Max any favors for those say he'd make a great WW supporting character/villain.
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The constant art team changes got to me also, normally I don't let art changes get to me but I kind of wish the series would go back to monthly if it meant a more consistent artist.[/QUOTE]
A bad story in a lackluster run doesn't prove Maxwell Lord is a bad villain. If anything, I'd argue Tamaki's first two issues, which were also her strongest, show the dynamic Diana and Max should have with each other. His very presence should push Diana to the limits of her compassion and forgiveness, which I do think the first 2 issues did well.
I would love a story that truly showed Lord's dynamic with Diana, Steve and Etta. Just because this story isn't it doesn't mean that story doesn't exist.
[QUOTE=PopQuezy;5209828]A bad story in a lackluster run doesn't prove Maxwell Lord is a bad villain. If anything, I'd argue Tamaki's first two issues, which were also her strongest, show the dynamic Diana and Max should have with each other. His very presence should push Diana to the limits of her compassion and forgiveness, which I do think the first 2 issues did well.
I would love a story that truly showed Lord's dynamic with Diana, Steve and Etta. Just because this story isn't it doesn't mean that story doesn't exist.[/QUOTE]
If a story comes along that's great and involves Lord then maybe I could be convinced but at the moment his biggest claim is a story in a buildup to an event that did Diana no favors and derailed her book for years.
Can't speak for others but even in WW'84. I'm only interested in him there because it's an actor I enjoy not because it's Max on the big screen like with Cheetah (or Poison and Ares from the first film).
I'm sorry, I would've put this on the controversial opinions thread but didn't want to change it's current great subject, so here it goes...the latest issue of WW was actually enjoyable. The dynamic between Diana and Max is an interesting one. Instead of "will they or won't they?" which is there too, foremost is wondering "will he or won't he betray Diana?". Their interactions were amusing but the twist ending was the kicker.
Honestly they need a higher profile creative team on this book, and structure an event focused on her. And I’m not talking about the Death Metal thing, which was just a sequel to a Batman event. Use her villains against other heroes, to make them better known to the wider DCU. Maybe a fight against some of Superman’s supernatural villains.