[QUOTE=Venceremos;5592576]why are you like this[/QUOTE]
Because, according to Korath, Bendis makes no mistake!! And if you talk against something Bendis wrote, you are wrong and he will insult your preferences.
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[QUOTE=Venceremos;5592576]why are you like this[/QUOTE]
Because, according to Korath, Bendis makes no mistake!! And if you talk against something Bendis wrote, you are wrong and he will insult your preferences.
Superman and the Authority, Batman/Superman, and 78 for me. Looks like I’m gonna be saving money for the foreseeable future since Jon Kent is just everywhere.
[QUOTE=Korath;5592597]Because I'm tired of kid Jon's fanatics. And because it's true. Kid Jon never stood on his own. Never.[/QUOTE]
Well, as a “Superman not having a kid” fanatic, can we get rid of Jon if adult Jon drops low in sales too?:p
[QUOTE=Forlorn;5593609]Well, as a “Superman not having a kid” fanatic, can we get rid of Jon if adult Jon drops low in sales too?:p[/QUOTE]
Jon will never be erased
That ship had sailed years ago
If not the moment of his creation
His failed legion book sold more than Conner’s solo books
I have zero interest in a traditional superman.So,when and if jon goes.i would just drop the books as well.I grown past superman..
[QUOTE=Korath;5592494]IF it makes you stop complaining all the time, all for the better.[/QUOTE]
I can't speak for him but it'd just make me complain even more. I am a [I]fanatic[/I], after all. If there's one thing I'm good at doing with comics (and only comics. I feel like I should make that clear.) it's hold a grudge. Shit, it's years later and I can still rant for days about One More Day, War Games, Wanda and Pietro's retcon, Identity Crisis, Inhumans VS X-Men, and the absolutely awful way Bendis wrote both Civil War II and Iceman's coming out. Stuff like Jon's current direction and Franklin Richards' retcon are just more drops in the hat of things I can complain about for a looooong time.
...Well...not actually mad. More like...exaggerated internet mad. Which is closer to just being really annoyed. Point is, I can keep this going XD
[QUOTE=kryptonian;5593610]Jon will never be erased
That ship had sailed years ago
If not the moment of his creation
His failed legion book sold more than Conner’s solo books[/QUOTE]
I’m not sure what Connor has to do with it, I just don’t want Superman to have a kid.
And I’m pretty sure you are right it won’t be changed, which is why at this point I’m thinking of dropping Superman & Company, because Superman has too much baggage I don’t like nowadays, and no by seems to know what to do with Supergirl, at least not in any way I like.
Jon is the only character in the industry that can unite both his fans and haters alike in wanting it to fail.Atta boy! now that has the makings of a superman...and it's funny..pissing of everyone since inception in 1930s...Anyways,it's the internet everybody is here to complain,poke holes...etc and talk about what they like on the side.
That's probably because he's the by far the weakest developed character in the industry that's receiving the push he's receiving. Each side pokes holes in the development because there's tons of holes on both sides of the development. Its as weak as as a wet paper towel. He's basically the DCEU's infamous rushed, poorly thought out developmental decisions made manifest into a single comic book character. Only difference is that unlike the DCEU, this character gets a major pass for it.
[QUOTE=Sacred Knight;5597001]That's probably because he's the by far the weakest developed character in the industry that's receiving the push he's receiving. Each side pokes holes in the development because there's tons of holes on both sides of the development. Its as weak as as a wet paper towel. He's basically the DCEU's infamous rushed, poorly thought out developmental decisions made manifest into a single comic book character. Only difference is that unlike the DCEU, this character gets a major pass for it.[/QUOTE]
Or because he is the only Superman legacy character outside of Kara that’s actually popular...unlike Conner whose a mess of ideas that never caught on outside of the teen Titans
And there is a certain jealousy
[QUOTE=kryptonian;5597637]Or because he is the only Superman legacy character outside of Kara that’s actually popular...unlike Conner whose a mess of ideas that never caught on outside of the teen Titans
And there is a certain jealousy[/QUOTE]
Dang we got a hater here.kom was never meant to be positioned as supermans son or even next in line as superman. He was always created to be a independent and unique character. Jon was created as supermans son and the next in line from the start, and pushed to the sky by DC to be just that.
[QUOTE=kryptonian;5597637]Or because he is the only Superman legacy character outside of Kara that’s actually popular...unlike Conner whose a mess of ideas that never caught on outside of the teen Titans
And there is a certain jealousy[/QUOTE]
He's not nearly as popular as he's made out to be. Either version.
[QUOTE=Sacred Knight;5597001]That's probably because he's the by far the weakest developed character in the industry that's receiving the push he's receiving. Each side pokes holes in the development because there's tons of holes on both sides of the development. Its as weak as as a wet paper towel. He's basically the DCEU's infamous rushed, poorly thought out developmental decisions made manifest into a single comic book character. Only difference is that unlike the DCEU, this character gets a major pass for it.[/QUOTE]
ofcourse there is.But,the framework itself is pretty solid.There is atleast lois and clark(12 issues),tomasi superman(40 issues),supersons(12 issues atleast),superman issues with jon's backstory in space,bendis's legion,...etc.Any writer can expand on whatever period of jon's life they like.As if superman had long drawn out years to explain "ma kent taught to hope harder".Bullet point origins has always been a thing.Expanding on bullet points is what has always been done with superman.The thing about shared universe is that you can't do a timeskip without everyone along for the ride.Personally,would a time skip be more natural?yes.but,would it happen with american mainstream superhero comics?no.A relative timeskip is perfect device for growing up jon.
[QUOTE=Thor-Ul;5593302]Because, according to Korath, Bendis makes no mistake!! And if you talk against something Bendis wrote, you are wrong and he will insult your preferences.[/QUOTE]
Actually, Bendis has nothing to do with it. It's just that Kid Jon is th emost uninspiring and uninteresting character that i've read in a very long time. Teen Jon offers a world of potential stories his kid version couldn't even dream being featured in, and said first version utterly ruined Damian Wayne, and then DC compounded it with his new series as "Robin".
And yeah, i think that bendis has been largely doing awesome work ar DC be it with Superman, Naomi, Justice League and even the LoSH where he got to revamp it. His only fliunder has been Young Justice, but that's because he couldn't rewrite it from the ground up and was stuck with not many interesting characters.
[QUOTE=Korath;5600735]Actually, Bendis has nothing to do with it. It's just that Kid Jon is th emost uninspiring and uninteresting character that i've read in a very long time. Teen Jon offers a world of potential stories his kid version couldn't even dream being featured in, and said first version utterly ruined Damian Wayne, and then DC compounded it with his new series as "Robin".
And yeah, i think that bendis has been largely doing awesome work ar DC be it with Superman, Naomi, Justice League and even the LoSH where he got to revamp it. His only fliunder has been Young Justice, but that's because he couldn't rewrite it from the ground up and was stuck with not many interesting characters.[/QUOTE]
Tell me
What stories can possibly be told with teen Jon
I’m curious...because legion has shown quite the opposite
He is more unwrittable than his father