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[QUOTE=The Overlord;4323789]So is Biden better at representing the black community?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5ca3c03de4b03174b92904f7/amp[/url]
What about women?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/politics/anita-hill-joe-biden-phone-apology-cannot-be-satisfied/amp/[/url]
What about poor people?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/1/10/18173132/joe-biden-hillary-clinton-2020[/url]
Are you willing to turn your critical gaze to Biden or not? Because your Bernie bashing will seem hollow if you do not apply the same standards to others.[/QUOTE]
Who said that he wasn't be critically assessed along with the others?
There is a news report about Biden trying to make amends with Anita Hill, and it didn't go well.
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[QUOTE=The Overlord;4323789]So is Biden better at representing the black community?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5ca3c03de4b03174b92904f7/amp[/url]
What about women?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/politics/anita-hill-joe-biden-phone-apology-cannot-be-satisfied/amp/[/url]
What about poor people?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/1/10/18173132/joe-biden-hillary-clinton-2020[/url]
Are you willing to turn your critical gaze to Biden or not? Because your Bernie bashing will seem hollow if you do not apply the same standards to others.[/QUOTE]
If you'd been reading this thread around the time of Biden's sexual harassment issue I think you'd find pretty much everyone here taking him to task and/or hoping he'd stop his potential run.
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[URL="https://twitter.com/MikeDorning/status/1121520990092238849?s=19"]Trade Wars, the easiest to win.[/URL]
[QUOTE]BREAKING: Trump officials mulling concession to China in trade talks that would give less protection for U.S. pharmaceutical products than they receive at home, sources tell @jendeben
More on @TheTerminal
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[QUOTE=The Overlord;4323789]So is Biden better at representing the black community?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5ca3c03de4b03174b92904f7/amp[/url]
What about women?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/politics/anita-hill-joe-biden-phone-apology-cannot-be-satisfied/amp/[/url]
What about poor people?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/1/10/18173132/joe-biden-hillary-clinton-2020[/url]
Are you willing to turn your critical gaze to Biden or not? Because your Bernie bashing will seem hollow if you do not apply the same standards to others.[/QUOTE]
Hell, I never wanted Biden [B]OR[/B] Sanders to run because of my admittedly irrational age bias. Happy now?
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[URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/us/politics/russia-2020-election-trump.html"]In Push for 2020 Election Security, Top Official Was Warned: Don’t Tell Trump[/URL]
[QUOTE]Ms. Nielsen left the Department of Homeland Security early this month after a tumultuous 16-month tenure and tensions with the White House. Officials said she had become increasingly concerned about Russia’s continued activity in the United States during and after the 2018 midterm elections — ranging from its search for new techniques to divide Americans using social media, to experiments by hackers, to rerouting internet traffic and infiltrating power grids.
But in a meeting this year, Mick Mulvaney, the White House chief of staff, made it clear that Mr. Trump still equated any public discussion of malign Russian election activity with questions about the legitimacy of his victory. According to one senior administration official, Mr. Mulvaney said it “wasn’t a great subject and should be kept below his level.”
Even though the Department of Homeland Security has primary responsibility for civilian cyberdefense, Ms. Nielsen eventually gave up on her effort to organize a White House meeting of cabinet secretaries to coordinate a strategy to protect next year’s elections.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Before she resigned under pressure on April 7, Ms. Nielsen and other officials looked for other ways to raise the alarm.
The opening page of the Worldwide Threat Assessment, a public document compiled by government intelligence agencies that was delivered to Congress in late January, warned that “the threat landscape could look very different in 2020 and future elections.”
“Russia’s social media efforts will continue to focus on aggravating social and racial tensions, undermining trust in authorities and criticizing perceived anti-Russia politicians,” the report noted. It also predicted that “Moscow may employ additional influence tool kits — such as spreading disinformation, conducting hack-and-leak operations or manipulating data — in a more targeted fashion to influence U.S. policy, actions and elections.”[/QUOTE]
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[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/rosenstein-fires-back-at-critics-over-mueller-report/2019/04/25/b474d168-67bd-11e9-a1b6-b29b90efa879_story.html?utm_term=.feb90fc017c8"]Rosenstein fires back at critics over Mueller report[/URL]
[QUOTE] NEW YORK — Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein hit back hard against politicians and the press Thursday night, and warned that hacking and social media ma*nipu*la*tion are “only the tip of the iceberg” when it comes to Russian efforts to influence American elections.
Speaking at the Public Servants Dinner of the Armenian Bar Association, Rosenstein unleashed his sharpest critique yet of those who have attacked his handling of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigative report into Russian election interference and President Trump’s conduct.
Rosenstein’s speech, likely one of his last as a senior Justice Department official, marked his first public comments since the release of the report, and he did not hold back in discussing his tumultous two years as the No. 2 at the Justice Department. During that time, he was castigated by both Republicans and Democrats for a variety of decisions. In the speech, Rosenstein reflected on his time on the job, spoke positively of Trump’s commitment to the rule of law, and criticized the press.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]“The bottom line is, there was overwhelming evidence that Russian operatives hacked American computers and defrauded American citizens, and that is only the tip of the iceberg of a comprehensive Russian strategy to influence elections, promote social discord, and undermine America, just like they do in many other countries,” Rosenstein said.[/QUOTE]
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[URL="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/top-epa-advisers-challenge-long-standing-air-pollution-science-threatening-americans-health"]Top EPA advisers challenge long-standing air pollution science, threatening Americans’ health[/URL]
[QUOTE]Americans rely on the Environmental Protection Agency to set pollution control standards that protect their health. But on April 11, an important scientific advisory group submitted recommendations to EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler that propose new and dangerous ways of interpreting findings on the health effects of air pollution.
Wheeler has already dismissed a qualified, independent panel of air pollution scientists appointed by the Obama administration to advise the agency on health effects of fine particulate air pollution – a step that hundreds of scientists, including me, have criticized. As a result, members of EPA’s Clean Air Scientific Advisory Committee – a group of seven independent experts mandated under the Clean Air Act to advise the agency – have admitted that they don’t have enough expertise to make appropriate judgments.
Despite this, the committee submitted its recommendation anyway. Its approach appears to be heavily influenced by a rule on “Strengthening Transparency in Regulatory Science” that former EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt proposed in 2018. In my view, this measure – which Wheeler is now preparing to finalize – could threaten Americans’ health and well-being by weakening the scientific basis for air pollution regulations.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Tami;4324029][URL="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/24/us/politics/russia-2020-election-trump.html"]In Push for 2020 Election Security, Top Official Was Warned: Don’t Tell Trump[/URL][/QUOTE]
So, there's little to no concerted effort to discuss a suspected, if not a probable threat by the Ivans to meddle with the 2020 elections because our horribly thin-skinned president [B]STILL[/B] gets his panties in a bunch over the legitimacy of his victory. Pathetic!
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[URL="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-campaign-24-hours_n_5cc2381de4b08846403bcc20"]Joe Biden’s First 24 Hours Foreshadow Some Tough Battles In 2020 Race[/URL]
“We are in the battle for the soul of this nation,” the former vice president said. But some wonder if he’s the best champion. [URL="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/anita-hill-joe-biden-apology_n_5cc217afe4b05f4d35fd999d"]Anita Hill[/URL] said sorry wasn't enough. [URL="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/charlottesville-activists-dont-want-joe-biden-to-use-city-as-a-campaign-prop_n_5cc200d2e4b0e56130eeaafd"]Charlottesville[/URL] didn't like being used as a political prop. Too much early reliance on [URL="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-2020-campaign-lobbyist-money_n_5cc111dce4b0764d31dc8586"]well-heeled lobbyists[/URL]? If Uncle Joe thought he was going to have an easy road to the Oval Office, he'd better think again!
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[URL="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-mueller-coup-sean-hannity_n_5cc268e8e4b081706966ed44"]Trump: Special Counsel Probe Was ‘An Attempted Overthrow’ Of The Government[/URL]
The president said Robert Mueller’s investigation was like something that would happen in a “third world country.” Considering Trump acts like a tinpot dictator, it's only fitting he think that way.
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[URL="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/andrew-napolitano-criminal-trump_n_5cc26532e4b081706966eb7f"]Fox News Legal Analyst Unloads On Trump: ‘Unlawful, Defenseless And Condemnable’[/URL]
Andrew Napolitano says Robert Mueller’s report spells out obstruction by the president. Hmm! I wonder if Trump will call for Napolitano to be fired after daring criticize him on his state run propaganda network?
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[URL="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/twitter-jack-dorsey-ilhan-omar-trump-tweet_n_5cc26f3ce4b05f4d35fdf3ed"]Twitter’s Jack Dorsey Told Ilhan Omar He Won’t Take Down Trump’s Tweet Targeting Her[/URL]
The CEO reportedly called the congresswoman to say a Trump tweet mischaracterizing her comments about 9/11 doesn’t break Twitter rules. If Omar becomes a victim of violence (god forbid), Dorsey should be named an accomplice because he chose to kiss up to Trump rather than take down Dolt45's inflammatory tweet.
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[URL="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lara-trump-migrants-germany_n_5cc1fee0e4b0e56130eea6f1"]Lara Trump Calls Migrants ‘The Downfall Of Germany’[/URL]
The president’s daughter-in-law and 2020 campaign adviser called immigration “one of the worst things that ever happened to Germany.” No mention of Hitler and the Nazis most say are worse, [B]FAR[/B] worse, a million times worse. STFU, you bitch!
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[QUOTE=The Overlord;4323789]So is Biden better at representing the black community?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5ca3c03de4b03174b92904f7/amp[/url]
What about women?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/politics/anita-hill-joe-biden-phone-apology-cannot-be-satisfied/amp/[/url]
What about poor people?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/1/10/18173132/joe-biden-hillary-clinton-2020[/url]
Are you willing to turn your critical gaze to Biden or not? Because your Bernie bashing will seem hollow if you do not apply the same standards to others.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dalak;4323831]If you'd been reading this thread around the time of Biden's sexual harassment issue I think you'd find pretty much everyone here taking him to task and/or hoping he'd stop his potential run.[/QUOTE]
Basically this.
Also wanted to add to Dalak's comment, though, that the "defense" of Sanders here was just "whataboutism" to attack Biden, who no one in here has proclaimed as their ideal candidate, anyway.
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[SIZE=1] It was on this date in 2016 that “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” posted a profile of [URL="http://republicinsanity.tumblr.com/post/117447662648/tim-jones"][B]Timothy Jones[/B][/URL], a former Missouri state legislator and the head of ALEC in Missouri who supported a variety of unconstitutional legislation, including drug testing welfare recipients, Voter ID laws so strict they were overturned by courts, as well as bills to nullify federal firearms laws and the Affordable Care Act. He might have seemed like a bit of a conspiracy theorist, because he passed legislation to prevent the implementation of environmental measures from the United Nations’ Agenda 21 conspiracy theory. But any doubt he was a kook goes out the window when you see the lengths he went to in support of the Birther conspiracy theory, signing off on the original lawsuit filed by “Birther Queen” Orly Taitz, claiming Joe Arpaio’s investigation into the birth certificate had “[I]uncovered the truth[/I]”, and supporting the Birther Bill pushed by fellow state legislator Lyle Rowland. Once Jones left office, he apparently decided he never wanted to have to run for election again, going out of his way to say as many racist things as he could about unrest in Ferguson, Missouri, like “[I]black elites are more of a threat to the black community than the Ku Klux Klan[/I]”, or get on social media to defend racist remarks about black-on-black crime made by former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Last time we checked, Jones was still running ALEC in Missouri.
It was on this date in 2016 that “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” posted a profile of [URL="https://republicinsanity.tumblr.com/post/143436208193/joann-windholz"][B]JoAnn Windholz[/B][/URL], a former one term member of the Colorado House of Representatives who won office in 2014 by a mere 104 votes. Her margin of victory proved easy for Democrats to overcome in the 2016 election to try and retake her seat, though, because but days after the shooting rampage by James Roland Dear at a Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood, Windholz blamed THE VICTIMS of that massacre for bringing the attack upon themselves. 60,000 people signed a petition calling on her to resign, and began discussing a recall election, but they figured it would be cheaper instead to just endure her for the rest of her term and be rid of her in 2016. For their patience, they were rewarded with a few rather anti-LGBT votes from Windholz, including her vote against a ban on gay conversion therapy in Colorado.
On this date in 2017, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” posted a profile of [URL="https://republicinsanity.tumblr.com/post/160009548933/kurt-schaefer"][B]Kurt Schaefer[/B][/URL], a former Missouri State Senator who served on that body from 2009-2016, and while staring down the prospect of term limits in the 2016 election, figured he’d run for Missouri Attorney General. That campaign wasn’t going Schaefer’s way, and it looked like he’d be facing a loss to his GOP Primary opponent, Josh Hawley, based on early polling. And that was unacceptable for Schaefer, who decided if he couldn’t hook his way into the AG spot, he’d crook it. Thus, he contacted Hawley’s boss at the University of Missouri, Tim Wolfe, and tried pressuring him to deny Hawley unpaid leave from his teaching job and force him to be unable to enter the race. If a state legislator pressuring one state employee to abuse their authority to prevent the political aspirations of another state employee sounds like some sort of breach of ethics to you, give yourself a pat on the back. An official complaint against Kurt Schaefer for his actions was filed shortly after the primary, which Hawley won with 65% of the vote (likely boosted by the story already being in the media). This isn’t to say that this is the only thing that concerns us about Kurt Schaefer, not by a long shot. During his eight years in the Missouri State Senate, he also led investigations into Planned Parenthood clinics in Missouri (finding no evidence of wrongdoing like he expected to after seeing the Center for Medical Progress’ “sting” video, at taxpayer expense, of course), or how he wasn’t just opposed to raising the Minimum Wage in Missouri, he actually floated the idea of punishing Kansas City for trying to raise it themselves by eliminating their earnings tax. He supported the failed conservative policy of drug testing welfare recipients, Republican efforts at voter suppression via unnecessary stricter Voter ID laws, and also voted for bills to attempt to nullify federal firearms laws. Schaefer, as we said, was turfed out of office by term limits in 2016.
It was on this date in 2016 that “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” posted a profile of [URL="https://republicinsanity.tumblr.com/post/173333440468/bill-lant"][B]Bill Lant[/B][/URL], a former member of the Missouri House of Representatives from 2010-2018. Back in 2014, where he wrote an opinion editorial that featured a 68 year old Lant discussing his high school reunion, and one of his favorite parts was how all the pretty cheerleaders he had the hots for but couldn’t woo back in the day didn’t show up because they “[I]didn’t want us to see how old they looked[/I].” That might seem a little misogynist, but then when you read the whole story, where Lant discusses a woman who DID show up who he remembered for filling out a tight sweater five decades ago, but as he remarked, “[I]Time has not been kind to that girl! What was stretching the cardigan 50 years ago is now bumping the belt[/I].” We know, a Republican who only seems to regard women as sexual things. Shocking. Fast forward a few months, and Lant was sponsoring right-to-work legislation in Missouri, not that he wrote it, of course. He was handed the bill by the conservative organization ALEC, which finds schmucks like Lant to push forward whatever idiot ideas they come up with in state legislatures around the country. While some Republicans might argue somehow gives “freedom” to workers… but Bill Lant’s too much of a dumbass to lie to the people of Missouri. He actually boasted about how right-to-work laws had lowered average hourly wages in states where it had passed, and laughed about how the reward workers got was… “less wages, more work”. (Again, why no one seriously ever challenged this ***hat for his seat…) In 2017, in a hearing in the Missouri House of Representatives regarding discrimination law, he silenced a witness, Ron Chapel, called from the NAACP called to give his expertise, choosing to instead berate and whitesplain how discrimination works to him. He then refused to allow Democrats to continue questioning Chapel during their own time with the witness. Missouri’s Democratic House Minority Leader summed it up quite nicely, saying, “[I]A white man abused his power to stop a black man from expressing a contrary view, and on legislation that seeks to turn back the clock on Missouri’s anti-discrimination laws, no less. This situation is simply dripping in irony[/I].” Lant faced term limits for his seat in the Missouri House of Representatives in 2018, and at the age of 72, does not seem to be up t the task of running for statewide office, or a spot in the Missouri State Senate. Thus, we’ll retire his CSGOPOTD profile at this time and go ahead and take a look at a different kooky Republican today instead. (Current crazy/stupid scoreboard, is now 746-40, since this was established in July 2014.)[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=5]Bill Dix[/SIZE]
Welcome to the 746th original “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” profile, where today we’ll be discussing former Iowa State Senator [B]Bill Dix[/B], who was in the Iowa state legislature since 1996, and actually [URL="https://ballotpedia.org/Bill_Dix"]made a run for Congress to represent Iowa’s 1st Congressional District in 2006[/URL]. However, while serving as the Majority Leader of the Iowa State Senate, Dix abruptly resigned under the cloud of what appeared to be a combination of sex scandal and ethics scandal. Yes, the double-whammy of political ruin came in March of 2018 when [URL="https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/2018/03/12/video-appears-show-iowa-senate-leader-bill-dix-kissing-woman-des-moines-bar/416553002/"]Dix was filmed on video out at a bar in Des Moines kissing a woman who was not his wife (yes, he is married), but was in fact, a lobbyist[/URL] who was apparently hunting for some… policy shifts. Go figure, only about five years earlier, Dix was the same person who [URL="https://www.bleedingheartland.com/2013/05/19/iowa-senate-gop-staffer-alleges-hostile-work-environment-sexual-harassment-updated/"]fired a caucus communications director for reporting a hostile work environment at the state capitol with sexual harassment being a part of the normal culture[/URL]. Also, he liked to brand himself an anti-LGBTQ “defender of marriage”, who [URL="https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2018/03/bill_dix_quits_top_anti_gay_family_values_lawmaker_caught_on_camera_kissing_lobbyist/"]co-sponsored a constitutional amendment to define marriage as between one man and one woman[/URL], so there’s that.
Outside of all the hypocrisy and getting caught on camera playing a game of tonsil hockey with a lobbyist, there’s also Bill Dix’s legislative record and policy stances where he was [URL="http://www.iowagrocers.com/recent-news.cfm/Article/2017-News/Dix-Iowa-shouldnt-exceed-federal-minimum-wage/2017-2-23"]against raising the minimum wage[/URL] (during the greatest period of income inequality in our country in almost a century), [URL="https://votesmart.org/bill/24436/62441/11008/bill-dix-voted-yea-passage-sf-2281-prohibits-abortion-after-fetal-heartbeat-detection#62441"]supported anti-abortion legislation as extreme as fetal heartbeat bills[/URL], was homophobic enough that he [URL="https://votesmart.org/bill/20245/53275/11008/bill-dix-voted-nay-passage-sf-334-prohibits-sexual-orientation-conversion-therapy-for-minors#53275"]opposed bans on gay conversion therapy on minors[/URL], and his [URL="https://votesmart.org/bill/19589/51550/11008/bill-dix-voted-nay-passage-sf-331-authorizes-online-voter-registration#51550"]record on voting rights[/URL] shows a distinct pattern of being anti-democratic and trying to keep citizens from exercising that right.
In short, we’re glad he’s f***ing gone.
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[QUOTE=The Overlord;4323789]So is Biden better at representing the black community?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5ca3c03de4b03174b92904f7/amp[/url]
What about women?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/politics/anita-hill-joe-biden-phone-apology-cannot-be-satisfied/amp/[/url]
What about poor people?
[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/1/10/18173132/joe-biden-hillary-clinton-2020[/url]
Are you willing to turn your critical gaze to Biden or not? Because your Bernie bashing will seem hollow if you do not apply the same standards to others.[/QUOTE]
I wish both those old white men weren't running, actually.
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[QUOTE=worstblogever;4324321]Basically this.
Also wanted to add to Dalak's comment, though, that the "defense" of Sanders here was just "whataboutism" to attack Biden, who no one in here has proclaimed as their ideal candidate, anyway.[/QUOTE]
Okay, except I think these attacks on Bernie's character are bad faith arguments used by the Democratic establishment who want to maintain the status quo that their donors support, the same status quo that gave us Trump and Trumpism. So yeah, I am bringing up Biden, because in the post I quoted, detailed something Biden's campaign has done to attack Bernie if you do that, you are opening up Biden's record to examine. I think Biden being in the race and having the backing of the establishment, makes these attacks on Bernie seem like a farce. I view these attacks on Bernie as very cynical and just to dismiss his ideas out of hand:
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0kCDFxODx4[/url]
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05bZnO9L75U[/url]
Unless someone has clear evidence that Bernie is sexist or racist or whatever and will enact sexist and racist policies, I am taking all these attacks on Bernie's character as just spin doctoring and caring more about style than substance, which is what will doom us to more Trumpism. Is Bernie clumsy with words sometimes and maybe unintentionally insensitive sometimes? Maybe, he but he is a human being with flaws like anyone else, but no one has given me clear evidence that he is any sort of bigot, so these attacks against him seem like mud slinging more than anything else. The ideology represented by Biden or Booker or any of the corporate Democrats, will aid Trump, not hurt him, that is what Trump ran against in 2016 and he won, are we going to make the same mistake again or will we take a different path?
If Bernie is such an out of touch old man, why did he support trans rights long before it mainstream?
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0kCDFxODx4[/url]
That's why I do not take these attacks on Bernie's character as a good faith debate.
[QUOTE=PaulBullion;4324490]I wish both those old white men weren't running, actually.[/QUOTE]
Well, they are and you are one brought Biden into this.
What do you care more about, style or substance, do want to debate who has the best ideas or not? Because all these attacks against Bernie come off as style over substance.
I do not care if Bernie has some flaws as a candidate, everyone does, but I think he has the best ideas and that's what matters most to me. After Bernie, I think Warren would be the best choice (I am sure people could criticize her for that DNA test she did, which was kinda stupid. but ultimately I do not care about it) and after that I think its just a bunch people controlled by the donors who will maintain the same status quo that
If AOC was old enough to run for President, I would back her and she is not an old white man, I care about who has the best ideas, that is what matters, I am not going to support Booker, because he takes money from the drug companies and blocked cheap drug imports from Canada, to me that shows he will just maintain status quo and maintaining the status quo is what will allow Trumpism to grow unchecked.
Trump is not some demon from hell, he is a product of the system, if you do not change the system, you will get another Trump, People like Bernie, Warren, AOC want to change the system, people like Biden and Booker want to maintain the status quo. So what's it going to be change or stagnation that will give us another Trump in short order?
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I don't know why trump supporters claim that dems want open borders when trump is the one that wanted to release immigrants into sanctuary cities.
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[QUOTE=The Overlord;4324674]I do not care if Bernie has some flaws as a candidate, everyone does, but I think he has the best ideas and that's what matters most to me. After Bernie, I think Warren would be the best choice (I am sure people could criticize her for that DNA test she did, which was kinda stupid. but ultimately I do not care about it) and after that I think its just a bunch people controlled by the donors who will maintain the same status quo that
If AOC was old enough to run for President, I would back her and she is not an old white man, I care about who has the best ideas, that is what matters, I am not going to support Booker, because he takes money from the drug companies and blocked cheap drug imports from Canada, to me that shows he will just maintain status quo and maintaining the status quo is what will allow Trumpism to grow unchecked.
Trump is not some demon from hell, he is a product of the system, if you do not change the system, you will get another Trump, People like Bernie, Warren, AOC want to change the system, people like Biden and Booker want to maintain the status quo. So what's it going to be change or stagnation that will give us another Trump in short order?[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone here is some establishment donor. I think most people here would rather Biden not have enetered the race.
The problem is that the only one who is going to change the system is Trump, which he's already doing. If we don't all vote in the general for whoever wins in the primary, we concede this system and country to Trump. Contrary to what some super punk rock Bernie people say, getting Trump out is the most important thing.
If you think Trump is better than Biden or Booker, then I don't imagine you care much about Bernie's politics either. It's just super punk rock bro.