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[QUOTE=Magneto;881737]- Protecting Hope at all cost was Cyclops main ideology. Wich was great because she saved them. So yeah, Cyclops was right about that.
- Utopia would not have been possible without Namor Magneto and everyone you named, but Cyclops was why Namor helped them and Magneto knew Cyclops leadership was going to save them. Again, the X-Men would have lost Utopia without Cyke.
- Of course X-Force did the dirty work, but without Cyke telling them to go in the future, would they think about this plan to save the Mutant? Nope. Again, Cyke was right.
Keep trying to prove why Cyke wasnt the main reason the rest of the mutant are alive. He did everythin he could to save Hope and the Phoenix Force and look at what we have here. Survival and more Mutant.
Cyclops was right.[/QUOTE]
Protecting Hope at all costs was also the Acolytes plan, Mr. Sinisters plan and destroying her was the Purifiers plan. All of whom had different means divinating the future. So no Cyclops didn't have some epipheny he just did the obvious given Cables advice, Forges timelines, Frosts visions etc... Also, if you read AvX - Sinister London arc Nathaniel Essex actually had people paint what would happen in AvX on the wall. And Cyclops was not right in AvX he was just not entirely wrong, the Avengers so happened to be more wrong.
Utopia would not have been possible without Namor who [b]Emma Frost[/b] recruited and Frost's funding. She even thought the idea was stupid as it painted a giant target on their backs. (And it did, we had Second Coming).
I'm not saying Cyclops didn't do anything. I'm saying you are mistaken if you think he contributed to 70% of the work.
And wrong, Cyclops was wrong. Everyone was wrong in AvX. He only happened to be less wrong then the Avengers.
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cyclops should not be put on trial with beast. he should be a key witness for the prosecution.
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[QUOTE=ExodusCloak;883493]Protecting Hope at all costs was also the Acolytes plan, Mr. Sinisters plan and destroying her was the Purifiers plan. All of whom had different means divinating the future. So no Cyclops didn't have some epipheny he just did the obvious given Cables advice, Forges timelines, Frosts visions etc... Also, if you read AvX - Sinister London arc Nathaniel Essex actually had people paint what would happen in AvX on the wall. And Cyclops was not right in AvX he was just not entirely wrong, the Avengers so happened to be more wrong.
Utopia would not have been possible without Namor who [b]Emma Frost[/b] recruited and Frost's funding. She even thought the idea was stupid as it painted a giant target on their backs. (And it did, we had Second Coming).
I'm not saying Cyclops didn't do anything. I'm saying you are mistaken if you think he contributed to 70% of the work.
And wrong, Cyclops was wrong. Everyone was wrong in AvX. He only happened to be less wrong then the Avengers.[/QUOTE]
You basically said that Cyclops was right. He was less wrong than everyone else, he was right.
Anyway, this is going nowhere.
Ciao.