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Deadpool Going PG-13
Hey so I've been wondering for a while if anyone else thinks that now that Deadpool is under Disney if it will remain rated r? I don't. Imo the whole release of once upon a deadpool was a market test to see how accepted a pg-13 version would be and how many pre teens and teenagers would flock to see it. I know there are articles saying that Disney and Marvel have stated that they won't change Deadpool but does anyone really believe that and also when they discuss it, they talk in a way that leaves it open to them to do it in the future and makes it sounds like they are staying in the "maybe" zone. I also think they want Deadpool in the MCU which is implied that future films would have to be at most pg-13 in order for that to occur.
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[QUOTE=ComicJunkie21;4529722]Hey so I've been wondering for a while if anyone else thinks that now that Deadpool is under Disney if it will remain rated r? I don't. Imo the whole release of once upon a deadpool was a market test to see how accepted a pg-13 version would be and how many pre teens and teenagers would flock to see it. I know there are articles saying that Disney and Marvel have stated that they won't change Deadpool but does anyone really believe that and also when they discuss it, they talk in a way that leaves it open to them to do it in the future and makes it sounds like they are staying in the "maybe" zone. I also think they want Deadpool in the MCU which is implied that future films would have to be at most pg-13 in order for that to occur.[/QUOTE]
Originally they said Deadpool would stay at fox and be R rated. But alot of rumors of late are they wanna bring him into the MCU. I'd rather him stay R and be outside the MCU. But I think it could work. You just got to be more creative. But alot of the funniest stuff from his movies can be done inside the MCU. Just no more sayings like "Fu** Nugget" and excessive gore. But really alot of Wade's Humor is his bizarre and out of left field thought process. I find him funny the same way I do Comedian Theo Vonn. Like they both say shit only they would say. But yea it can be done but I think they should let Reynolds finish his trilogy first and bring DP over later.
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I don't think an R rating is at all essential for Deadpool. The [I]vast[/I] majority of Deadpool comics are more PG13 than R after all.
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[QUOTE=H-E-D;4530138]I don't think an R rating is at all essential for Deadpool. The [I]vast[/I] majority of Deadpool comics are more PG13 than R after all.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, if they made Deadpool movies PG-13 from this point on we'd barely be able to tell the difference honestly.
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It would be sad if Marvel made him go pg 13.I think some of you don't understand what Deadpool's R rating represented beyond the blood, sex, gore, swearing and violence. It was about taking risks, trusting in one actor's vision after an already failed attempt at the character, stepping away from the expected comic movie tropes, not getting defined with crossover movies, making creativity more limitless and accessible to writers and directors who have different interpretations of what a superhero film is.
Marvel taking all that away defeats the whole point of what I mentioned and it proves further that all what marvel is a sterilized manufactured structured formula processed factory studio, who deserves the X-Men brand less than Fox.
Also should DC succeed with Joker that is R, DC will be far more versatile than MCU can ever dream off or ever catch up too as DC is already beating marvel in video games and animation and an already well established tv universe while all what marvel would have left is their MCU related project, which is becoming more juvenile with every movie.
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[QUOTE=Beaddle;4530338]It would be sad if Marvel made him go pg 13.I think some of you don't understand what Deadpool's R rating represented beyond the blood, sex, gore, swearing and violence. It was about taking risks, trusting in one actor's vision after an already failed attempt at the character, stepping away from the expected comic movie tropes, not getting defined with crossover movies, making creativity more limitless and accessible to writers and directors who have different interpretations of what a superhero film is.
Marvel taking all that away defeats the whole point of what I mentioned and it proves further that all what marvel is a sterilized manufactured structured formula processed factory studio, who deserves the X-Men brand less than Fox.
Also should DC succeed with Joker that is R, DC will be far more versatile than MCU can ever dream him off or ever catch up too as DC is already beating marvel in video games and animation and an already well established tv universe while all what marvel would have left is their MCU related project, which is becoming more juvenile with every movie.[/QUOTE]
I'd have an easier time buying the notion of DC's versatility in movies if they weren't essentially copying marvel at this point.
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[QUOTE=XPac;4530407]I'd have an easier time buying the notion of DC's versatility in movies if they weren't essentially copying marvel at this point.[/QUOTE]
How long are they going to copy marvel? Doesn't look for long with everything I have seen about Joker and everything I am hearing about Robert Patinson's Batman reboot. Also DC is already more versatile because they don't try to connect everything. Marvel doesn't have anything again that is off importance outside of the MCU.
Marvel lost it around 2014 when they started to make their comics fit the movies and they have never gotten their mojo back. I heard even the GOTG, Black Panther and Spiderman cartoons made by Disney XD felt like a continuation of the movies or were strongly based off the movies. its sad if you ask me.
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[QUOTE=Beaddle;4530338]
Also should DC succeed with Joker that is R, DC will be far more versatile than MCU can ever dream him off or ever catch up too as DC is already beating marvel in video games and animation and an already well established tv universe while all what marvel would have left is their MCU related project, which is becoming more juvenile with every movie.[/QUOTE]
Depending on how it's done I wonder if it will even feel like a Joker movie? I only saw the trailer once so maybe I don't remember but is there anything that makes this movie feel like a Joker movie as opposed to a movie about a man going insane that happens to be dressed as a clown? It's one thing to take risks and be different although Deadpool aside I am not sure any nonMCU marvel movie ever did that. But at some point if you go too far off the path it won't even be the characters anymore. Just the kind of story told elsewhere but with lipservice to a comic character. From what I've seen, if this movie wasn't called Joker I don't think it would have lost anything except revenue money from lack of interest. I think it'd be a pretty sad state of affairs if companies just starting taking indie scrips and replacing the names with comic characters to get seats and have people celebrate that as "different" and "imaginative" when it would be anything but. Not saying that's the case here but it's is a concern I have going forward.
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[QUOTE=Beaddle;4530435]How long are they going to copy marvel? Doesn't look for long with everything I have seen about Joker and everything I am hearing about Robert Patinson's Batman reboot. Also DC is already more versatile because they don't try to connect everything. Marvel doesn't have anything again that is off importance outside of the MCU.
Marvel lost it around 2014 when they started to make their comics fit the movies and they have never gotten their mojo back. I heard even the GOTG, Black Panther and Spiderman cartoons made by Disney XD felt like a continuation of the movies or were strongly based off the movies. its sad if you ask me.[/QUOTE]
Do the netflix shows, Runaways, or Cloak and Dagger not count?
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[QUOTE=Farealmer;4530446]Do the netflix shows, Runaways, or Cloak and Dagger not count?[/QUOTE]
They are all loosely part of the MCU too. I would give you an example. DC has 2 supermans. the one on tv and the one in the movies. no character in runaways can ever show up in the mcu movies or ever get played by a different actor.
It really got very irritating when MCU killed off the quicksilver in age of ultron because fox had used him the year before. while the fox quicksilver had an excellent visual scene and was played by a better actor, mcu quicksilver had the better background for the character but disney is so obsessed with their MCU they can't even accept you can have 2 variation of a character in different movies or existing in tv and movies at the same time. Everything is about the MCU.
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[QUOTE=Beaddle;4530435]How long are they going to copy marvel? Doesn't look for long with everything I have seen about Joker and everything I am hearing about Robert Patinson's Batman reboot. Also DC is already more versatile because they don't try to connect everything. Marvel doesn't have anything again that is off importance outside of the MCU.
Marvel lost it around 2014 when they started to make their comics fit the movies and they have never gotten their mojo back. I heard even the GOTG, Black Panther and Spiderman cartoons made by Disney XD felt like a continuation of the movies or were strongly based off the movies. its sad if you ask me.[/QUOTE]
How long as they going to copy marvel? Probably for as long as those are the only ones which seem to be working out for them by whatever standard WB is using. They're going with what works... which as of now seems to be copying marvel. I guess realizing what you are doing is not working and having the ability to simply copy someone else can qualify as versatility.
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A Deadpool PG 13 would be terrible. I think this is setting up a battle between Reynolds and Feige. This is going to suck
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This whole thread sounds a lot like the arguments that Black Panther and Captain Marvel were being sidelined because they weren't announced at Comic-con. Rational people pointed out that Disney's expo was likely another opportunity to roll out Panther, Ant Man, etc. but the people who want a hill so badly to die on will invent things, whole cloth, to fit their agenda.
I expect, in the near future, when there is an R rated Deadpool that the same people stumping in this thread will have invented a new complaint and will pretend all of the dozens of made-up, nonsensical accusations they spouted for weeks never happened. Ditto this thread.
It's ok. You don't like the MCU. You're worried about how the X-men will be treated. Ok. But save the invented melodrama please, there is absolutely nothing of substance behind this worry. None.
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[QUOTE=Beaddle;4530463] Everything is about the MCU.[/QUOTE]
Why is that a problem? In the comics these characters have crossed over and been part of each others stories for decades. Why can't the films reflect that?
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[QUOTE=Farealmer;4530581]Why is that a problem? In the comics these characters have crossed over and been part of each others stories for decades. Why can't the films reflect that?[/QUOTE]
The problem is not the crossover, the problem is the MCU formula
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[QUOTE=luprki;4530598]The problem is not the crossover, the problem is the MCU formula[/QUOTE]
So far, marvels formula for a shared superhero movie universe is the only one that has actually worked.
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[QUOTE=Theleviathan;4530518]This whole thread sounds a lot like the arguments that Black Panther and Captain Marvel were being sidelined because they weren't announced at Comic-con. Rational people pointed out that Disney's expo was likely another opportunity to roll out Panther, Ant Man, etc. but the people who want a hill so badly to die on will invent things, whole cloth, to fit their agenda.
I expect, in the near future, when there is an R rated Deadpool that the same people stumping in this thread will have invented a new complaint and will pretend all of the dozens of made-up, nonsensical accusations they spouted for weeks never happened. Ditto this thread.
It's ok. You don't like the MCU. You're worried about how the X-men will be treated. Ok. But save the invented melodrama please, there is absolutely nothing of substance behind this worry. None.[/QUOTE]
Those arguments about BP seem to be justified. Seriously 5 years later sequel to most successful solo superhero movie ever? And Marvel's only Oscar winner? Like really Fiege doesn't even mention the film and acts like it never happened. I don't see the logic.
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[QUOTE=XPac;4530608]So far, marvels formula for a shared superhero movie universe is the only one that has actually worked.[/QUOTE]
Is that so?
Superman 1 and 2
Batman 89 and Returns
Spiderman trilogy
65% of X-Men movies
Sam Raimi's Spiderman movies
Wesley Snipes Blade movies
The Incredibles film series
Christopher Nolan's Batman Movies.
Into the Spiderverse
What are you talking about that the crossover universe is what has only worked? I find that a little too ignorant.
[QUOTE=XPac;4530470]How long as they going to copy marvel? Probably for as long as those are the only ones which seem to be working out for them by whatever standard WB is using. They're going with what works... which as of now seems to be copying marvel. I guess realizing what you are doing is not working and having the ability to simply copy someone else can qualify as versatility.[/QUOTE]
Is the joker copying marvel?
Is the batman reboot copying marvel?
Are DC going to cancel all their tv shows or start pretending they have any links to movies?
Would DC stop making animated movies in a self contained universe?
Would DC stop making games?
Is DC obsessed with making anything DC related have ties to the DCEU?
Is DC obsessed with linking their comics and movies together?
When DC stops doing that or starts doing some of it, then they will loose their versatility like marvel.
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65% of my car works, so it’s a good car.
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[QUOTE=Star_Jammer;4530888]65% of my car works, so it’s a good car.[/QUOTE]
Better 65% than about 30% to the own equivalent of my car.
[QUOTE=Farealmer;4530581]Why is that a problem? In the comics these characters have crossed over and been part of each others stories for decades. Why can't the films reflect that?[/QUOTE]
The comics never relied heavily on crossovers. Crossovers in the comics used to be an event thing, maybe once a year, it was not a daily thing like the mcu movies are making it out to be. Please don't ever say this to a spiderman or x-fan that marvel comics are mostly about crossovers stories.
Wow, it must be very true then what some people have said in the spiderman forums with the Disney and Sony failed deal. A significant amount of MCU fans only knows so little about marvel comics.
How much money did that Spiderman PS4 game bring in for Sony again? Why has into the spiderverse captured the imagination of us in a way MCU Spiderman has not? To the contrary, the crossover formula has hurt MCU spiderman than helped him.
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The comics never relied heavily on crossovers. Crossovers in the comics used to be an event thing, maybe once a year, it was not a daily thing like the mcu movies are making it out to be. Please don't ever say this to a spiderman or x-fan that marvel comics are mostly about crossovers stories.
Wow, it must be very true then what some people have said in the spiderman forums with the Disney and Sony failed deal. A significant amount of MCU fans only knows so little about marvel comics.
How much money did that Spiderman PS4 game bring in for Sony again? Why has into the spiderverse captured the imagination of us in a way MCU Spiderman has not? To the contrary, the crossover formula has hurt MCU spiderman than helped him.[/QUOTE]
I asked a simple question no need for the nuclear option.
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[QUOTE=Farealmer;4530930]I asked a simple question no need for the nuclear option.[/QUOTE]
Ahh nothing he said is true anyway. tas #1 and several ealry issues had Fantastic four or Doom in them and #16 had Daredevil. And those are just the ones off the top my head. And then marvel presents had Spiderman paired up with everyone. Marvel team ups. Crossovers are baked into Marvels DNA.
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[QUOTE=Beaddle;4530878]Is that so?
Superman 1 and 2
Batman 89 and Returns
Spiderman trilogy
65% of X-Men movies
Sam Raimi's Spiderman movies
Wesley Snipes Blade movies
The Incredibles film series
Christopher Nolan's Batman Movies.
Into the Spiderverse
What are you talking about that the crossover universe is what has only worked? I find that a little too ignorant.
Is the joker copying marvel?
Is the batman reboot copying marvel?
Are DC going to cancel all their tv shows or start pretending they have any links to movies?
Would DC stop making animated movies in a self contained universe?
Would DC stop making games?
Is DC obsessed with making anything DC related have ties to the DCEU?
Is DC obsessed with linking their comics and movies together?
When DC stops doing that or starts doing some of it, then they will loose their versatility like marvel.[/QUOTE]
I don't consider sequals the same thing as a shared movie universe. Yes, Superman 1 does work with Superman 2. I didn't say Marvel was the first super hero movie ever to have a sequal ... obviously that's not true. I argued that they are created a shared movie universe... they were able to replicate what we have in the comics on the big screen. They exist in the same universe, shareing the same continuity and having the ability to cross over and interact.
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[QUOTE=CliffHanger2;4530877]Those arguments about BP seem to be justified. Seriously 5 years later sequel to most successful solo superhero movie ever? And Marvel's only Oscar winner? Like really Fiege doesn't even mention the film and acts like it never happened. I don't see the logic.[/QUOTE]
The problem is Disney let Feige get out of control by making the MCU too big.
Did the MCU really need Spider-Man? not really
Do we really need an Eternals, Shang-Chi or Blade movie? Probably not.
It’s sad that we have to wait until 2022 for BP 2
And how long do we have to wait GOTG 3 and Deadpool?
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[QUOTE=Midvillian1322;4530975]Ahh nothing he said is true anyway. tas #1 and several ealry issues had Fantastic four or Doom in them and #16 had Daredevil. And those are just the ones off the top my head. .[/QUOTE]
So what you are saying is marvel is so reliant on crossovers that you cannot mostly enjoy a spiderman, iron man, captain, america, blade or xmen comic book without wishing they all run into each other at some point in the comic or mention eachother once? That ain't true.
X-Men TAS is the most successful animated marvel cartoon of all time. Why does that cartoon make so little reference to other marvel properties?
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And then marvel presents had Spiderman paired up with everyone. Marvel team ups. Crossovers are baked into Marvels DNA[/QUOTE]
And still the biggest complaints of MCU Spiderman is that he is nothing more than Ironboy. If you mention any top 3 reason spiderverse is better than homecoming or FFH, reason number 1 or 2 would be, its a proper Spiderman movie.
Everything I said is true, as you can see I have backed it up by the evidence of xmen tas, marvel comics runs and a spiderman film that is not even a year old.
Look at it this way, if marvel originally so relied on crossovers than why is it that some marvel properties like X-Men and Spiderman in particular could more than carry their own self contained universe without needing to mention any other marvel characters?
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[QUOTE=luprki;4531021]The problem is Disney let Feige get out of control by making the MCU too big.
Did the MCU really need Spider-Man? not really
Do we really need an Eternals, Shang-Chi or Blade movie? Probably not.
It’s sad that we have to wait until 2022 for BP 2[/QUOTE]
The MCU didn't need Spider-Man, but obviously they wanted to use him. He has been marvels flagship character for decades. Plus, to be blunt Sony was slowly starting to kill the movie franchise. Using him in the MCU was a much needed boost.
As far as whether or not it's too big... we'll see. So far many of the newer additions to the MCU have done pretty well. Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and Spider-Man all made over a billion dollars. So it's generating new IP's for marvel, and at least so far hasn't hurt the MCU yet. We'll see what happens down the line.
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[QUOTE=XPac;4531026]The MCU didn't need Spider-Man, but obviously they wanted to use him. He has been marvels flagship character for decades. Plus, to be blunt Sony was slowly starting to kill the movie franchise. Using him in the MCU was a much needed boost.
As far as whether or not it's too big... we'll see. So far many of the newer additions to the MCU have done pretty well. Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and Spider-Man all made over a billion dollars. So it's generating new IP's for marvel, and at least so far hasn't hurt the MCU yet. We'll see what happens down the line.[/QUOTE]
I understand and agree that the newer additions has done well, but at some point it has to take a breather. We now have the wait 4 or 5 years for a stand-alone sequel. Disney need to put handcuffs on Feige.
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We already have a thread dedicated to MCU hatred. Can we keep those posts there?
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[QUOTE=Beaddle;4531022]So what you are saying is marvel is so reliant on crossovers that you cannot mostly enjoy a spiderman, iron man, captain, america, blade or xmen comic book without wishing they all run into each other at some point in the comic or mention eachother once? That ain't true.
X-Men TAS is the most successful animated marvel cartoon of all time. Why does that cartoon make so little reference to other marvel properties?
And still the biggest complaints of MCU Spiderman is that he is nothing more than Ironboy. If you mention any top 3 reason spiderverse is better than homecoming or FFH, reason number 1 or 2 would be, its a proper Spiderman movie.
Everything I said is true, as you can see I have backed it up by the evidence of xmen tas, marvel comics runs and a spiderman film that is not even a year old.
Look at it this way, if marvel originally so relied on crossovers than why is it that some marvel properties like X-Men and Spiderman in particular could more than carry their own self contained universe without needing to mention any other marvel characters?[/QUOTE]
Well here we go in circles again. People loved MCU Spiderman stop putting your complaints onto everyone. I don't know if you know what evidence is cause you havent presented any. Your arguments keep going all over the place. Marvel comics has always been a place where one superhero can run into another at anytime. The Xmen are the only characters who are slightly isolated. And that's only if you exclude Wolverine.
You say the comics dont rely on crossover but theres constant crossover in the comics. Esepcialy with Spiderman. Then you Pivot to Movies and Cartoons which are completely different things due to rights issues. Does spiderman have to exist in a larger world? No hes one of the few characters with such a rich supporting cast and Rogue galley that he can thrive on his own. But stop making silly claims like the comics rarely did crossovers and then accuse people of not knowing the comics, as they point out just how much Spiderman specifically used Crossovers. But go head and move the Goal post again.
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[QUOTE=CliffHanger2;4530877]Those arguments about BP seem to be justified. Seriously 5 years later sequel to most successful solo superhero movie ever? And Marvel's only Oscar winner? Like really Fiege doesn't even mention the film and acts like it never happened. I don't see the logic.[/QUOTE]
No, they are not. The claim was that they are not being made at all. Which everyone who didnt have an axe to grind knew was false.
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[QUOTE=Beaddle;4530878]Is that so?
Superman 1 and 2
Batman 89 and Returns
Spiderman trilogy
65% of X-Men movies
Sam Raimi's Spiderman movies
Wesley Snipes Blade movies
The Incredibles film series
Christopher Nolan's Batman Movies.
Into the Spiderverse
What are you talking about that the crossover universe is what has only worked? I find that a little too ignorant.[/QUOTE]
Those aren't shared universes, just film series. The X-Men movies are the closest thing there to a cinematic universe on that list (given it has a core series plus spinoffs) and its extremely inconsistent run speaks for itself.
[QUOTE=Beaddle;4530892]The comics never relied heavily on crossovers. Crossovers in the comics used to be an event thing, maybe once a year, it was not a daily thing like the mcu movies are making it out to be. Please don't ever say this to a spiderman or x-fan that marvel comics are mostly about crossovers stories.[/quote]
Oh, yeah, Spider-Man totally did not try to join the Fantastic Four in his first solo issue or the Avengers within the first year. He didn't fight Doctor Doom within that first year either. He didn't have the core piece of the "Acts of Vengeance" finale or play an important role in the first Secret Wars. There also weren't two Team-Up series that were basically Spider-Man having adventures with other Marvel characters.
Dude, the more I see you lecturing on what Spider-Man and Spider-Man comics are, the more less convinced I am that you understand them yourself.
[QUOTE=Midvillian1322;4530975]Ahh nothing he said is true anyway. tas #1 and several ealry issues had Fantastic four or Doom in them and #16 had Daredevil. And those are just the ones off the top my head. And then marvel presents had Spiderman paired up with everyone. Marvel team ups. Crossovers are baked into Marvels DNA.[/QUOTE]
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=WebLurker;4531592]Those aren't shared universes, just film series. The X-Men movies are the closest thing there to a cinematic universe on that list (given it has a core series plus spinoffs) and its extremely inconsistent run speaks for itself.
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And by X-Men's own expectations MCU run is not just more inconsistency but down right scary since X-fans don't want to see anything that looks like disney. when their last good entries are DOFP and Logan that gave a good closing to the series that took off in 2000. Can you fault them? they have more right to be against disney than spiderman fans and making deadpool pg 13 would just make their heads explode in good anger.[QUOTE]
X-Men fans always felt their biggest comic resemblance was Batman not even any marvel properties. Are X-Fans going to be happy with no more Logans to TDK or Joker gets his R while deadpool after 2 successful r gets reduced to disney pg 13?
Oh, yeah, Spider-Man totally did not try to join the Fantastic Four in his first solo issue or the Avengers within the first year. He didn't fight Doctor Doom within that first year either. He didn't have the core piece of the "Acts of Vengeance" finale or play an important role in the first Secret Wars. There also weren't two Team-Up series that were basically Spider-Man having adventures with other Marvel characters.
Dude, the more I see you lecturing on what Spider-Man and Spider-Man comics are, the more less convinced I am that you understand them yourself.[/QUOTE]
I will make this simple. crossovers were secondary. They were not the primary focus of comics. Marvel comics would still remain marvel comics by 70% even if you remove all the crossover stories in their 80 year history.
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F4 and Daredevil can still maintain a self contained universe. speaking of daredevil, it would have been very inappropriate if GOTG or Ant Man featured in his Netflix series.
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[QUOTE=Beaddle;4531642]And by X-Men's own expectations MCU run is not just more inconsistency but down right scary since X-fans don't want to see anything that looks like disney. when their last good entries are DOFP and Logan that gave a good closing to the series that took off in 2000. Can you fault them? they have more right to be against disney than spiderman fans and making deadpool pg 13 would just make their heads explode in good anger.
I will make this simple. crossovers were secondary. They were not the primary focus of comics. Marvel comics would still remain marvel comics by 70% even if you remove all the crossover stories in their 80 year history.
F4 and Daredevil can still maintain a self contained universe. speaking of daredevil, it would have been very inappropriate if GOTG or Ant Man featured in his Netflix series.[/QUOTE]
Why the hell would GOTG be in a Daredevil show or even if they had a MCU movie? All the crossovers the MCU is doing service the story and the ones that dont are just Cameos. Ugh you dont like the MCU we get it, but most people do. And apparently people who agree with you are real X fans and you speak for them. Not even close, public Opinion is that Xmen in the MCU is gonna be a good thing. So untill Marvel drops the ball people are gonna keep feeling that way.
The movies also dont rely on crossovers but just like the comics they do it alot. But they establish the chatacters peolle love first or else it wouldnt work.
I'm still confused on how a character being able to exist in a contained universe somehow means it should. Can Daredevil? Yes for a time but his rogues gallery is weak. King Pin is a Spiderman villian that crossedover into Daredevil. And all the Netflix shows did crossovers so why are we talking about them?
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[QUOTE=luprki;4530477]A Deadpool PG 13 would be terrible. I think this is setting up a battle between Reynolds and Feige. This is going to suck[/QUOTE]
What concerns me is Reynolds may walk if Feige starts throwing his weight around. And as Reynolds [I]is[/I] Wade Wilson that'd be the end of Deadpool.
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[QUOTE=motherofpearl1;4532561]What concerns me is Reynolds may walk if Feige starts throwing his weight around. And as Reynolds [I]is[/I] Wade Wilson that'd be the end of Deadpool.[/QUOTE]
It's a credible and good concern, although brace yourself, some will call you a MCU hater and a troll as I have been called for making these concerns too about marvel's very poor creative freedom as their movies all have to be processed factoryed all done the same way to certain noticeable extent.
Ryan basically had to hijack Deadpool from Fox and took charge of the entire franchise. It was his way or the highway. I don't see him and Feige getting along and Ryan comes off as a very nice guy, unlike James Mangold, the Logan director who has told MCU to basically get lost with their Disney juvenile movies.
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[QUOTE=motherofpearl1;4532561]What concerns me is Reynolds may walk if Feige starts throwing his weight around. And as Reynolds [I]is[/I] Wade Wilson that'd be the end of Deadpool.[/QUOTE]
Deadpool is character that wears a Mask 98% of the time.And the other 2% he would be screen without the mask is actually another mask of his disfigured face. Deadpool literally doesn't have be played by the "actor". You can stick a raunchy comedian say like Dane Cook, Anthony Jeselnik or Daniel Tosh pretty much accomplish the same thing as Ryan. The jokes just need to hit for Deadpool to work and they are other people who can pull it off imo
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[QUOTE=Killerbee911;4532594]Deadpool is character that wears a Mask 98% of the time.And the other 2% he would be screen without the mask is actually another mask of his disfigured face. Deadpool literally doesn't have be played by the "actor". You can stick a raunchy comedian say like Dane Cook, Anthony Jeselnik or Daniel Tosh pretty much accomplish the same thing as Ryan. The jokes just need to hit for Deadpool to work and they are other people who can pull it off imo[/QUOTE]
Eh they gotta be able to act aswell. And Reynolde has his mask off alot and the scarring isnt too bad hes still emotes and acts through it. I like those comedians but Cooks the only ones who acts and it's just barely these days. I get what your saying but you need a actor. For the movie to work you gotta sell more then just a joke.
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[QUOTE=Beaddle;4532575]It's a credible and good concern, although brace yourself, some will call you a MCU hater and a troll as I have been called for making these concerns too about marvel's very poor creative freedom as their movies all have to be processed factoryed all done the same way to certain noticeable extent.
Ryan basically had to hijack Deadpool from Fox and took charge of the entire franchise. It was his way or the highway. I don't see him and Feige getting along and Ryan comes off as a very nice guy, unlike James Mangold, the Logan director who has told MCU to basically get lost with their Disney juvenile movies.[/QUOTE]
Reynolds come off as a nice guy publicly, but behind the scenes he probably is a very tough business man.
[QUOTE=Killerbee911;4532594]Deadpool is character that wears a Mask 98% of the time.And the other 2% he would be screen without the mask is actually another mask of his disfigured face. Deadpool literally doesn't have be played by the "actor". You can stick a raunchy comedian say like Dane Cook, Anthony Jeselnik or Daniel Tosh pretty much accomplish the same thing as Ryan. The jokes just need to hit for Deadpool to work and they are other people who can pull it off imo[/QUOTE]
I agree, Reynolds is expendable, he can be replaced. It looks like we won’t get a DP3 until 2023, by that time no one will care if they replace him. People go to see Deadpool, they don’t go to see Reynolds.
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[QUOTE=luprki;4531050]I understand and agree that the newer additions has done well, but at some point it has to take a breather. We now have the wait 4 or 5 years for a stand-alone sequel. Disney need to put handcuffs on Feige.[/QUOTE]
To me, this is just marvel showing foresight. They are losing Iron Man, Captain America, and Spider-Man. Guardians of the galaxy is probably on it's last legs. The newly acquired properties from Fox are 5 years away. Like any good well oiled machine, they are making sure none of these loses or changes derail them. They have a large healthy library of IPs and a long term plan on how to use them.
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[QUOTE=XPac;4533374]To me, this is just marvel showing foresight. They are losing Iron Man, Captain America, and Spider-Man. Guardians of the galaxy is probably on it's last legs. The newly acquired properties from Fox are 5 years away. Like any good well oiled machine, they are making sure none of these loses or changes derail them. They have a large healthy library of IPs and a long term plan on how to use them.[/QUOTE]
They would’ve been better suited with BP2 first, imo
Spider-Man was the next to take the lead position in the MCU, now it has to go to T’Challa.