Who actually saw this and what did you think?
We reviewed it recently on our channel:
[url]https://youtu.be/jmDah7ftN18[/url]
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Who actually saw this and what did you think?
We reviewed it recently on our channel:
[url]https://youtu.be/jmDah7ftN18[/url]
I've said it many times here and I'll say it again: it sucks.
[QUOTE=grifter78;5321123]Who actually saw this and what did you think?
We reviewed it recently on our channel:
[url]https://youtu.be/jmDah7ftN18[/url][/QUOTE]
Unreleased? I always thought it had been released.
I saw a couple of times and
[QUOTE=Cyberstrike;5332854]I've said it many times here and I'll say it again: it sucks.[/QUOTE]
Ditto.
How can you have voice talent like Mark Hamill and John de Lance, and it ends up...........like this?
[QUOTE=Will Evans;5337481]How can you have voice talent like Mark Hamill and John de Lance, and it ends up...........like this?[/QUOTE]
You have Mark Hammil voice-acting, you have the same style of Batman The Animated Series, possibly one of the greatest cartoons ever made, you have a director that worked in this same cartoon and in its full-length [I]Mask of the Phantasm[/I]... and you still fail.
But although a great fan of Jim Lee, J. Scott Campbell and Brandon Choi, I guess the group Genął doesn't help much, so you couldn't expect something really good.
The reasons why in my honest opinion [i]Gen 13: the Animated movie[/i] sucks:
1) The animation feels like below average 90s cartoon show is often is below that.
2) The story is boring and dull.
3) The voice acting is awful. Hamil is just seems to be dialing in a less maniacal version of the Joker. Both De Lancie and Leachman are horribly miscast and feel like their characters are in the wrong movie.
4) The film wants to be both a family film and a more "mature" anime style action movie like [i]Ninja Scroll[/i] in the worst ways possible, more graphic violence and titillation, but fails to either of those things right and instead chickens out of the violence being less shocking and less visceral more badly handled and comes off as either comical or out of place. The titillation is not sexy or even creepy, it's out of place and bland.
5) The character designs don't work.
6) The heroes are all uninteresting, dull, and stupid that I don't care about them.
The only thing interesting about this film is it's convoluted post-production history and why it not had an official mass release in the US, which when your read about isn't all that interesting as it just petty and stupid studio reasons but then again it being a legally lost film might be the best thing about and for it especially since the damn thing can easily found and watched on YouTube and both WB and Disney don't want to deal with it.
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2) The story is boring and dull.
6) The heroes are all uninteresting, dull, and stupid that I don't care about them.
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To me, these two points here sum up the group not only in the cartoon but in its whole existence.
[QUOTE=extra skater;5337655]You have Mark Hammil voice-acting, you have the same style of Batman The Animated Series, possibly one of the greatest cartoons ever made, you have a director that worked in this same cartoon and in its full-length [I]Mask of the Phantasm[/I]... and you still fail.
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What works for Batman doesn't always work for others.
[QUOTE=extra skater;5338786]To me, these two points here sum up the group not only in the cartoon but in its whole existence.[/QUOTE]
I actually found the characters in the comic likable (except for Burnout who was basically wallpaper the entire time) but even having read the entire original series, I couldn't tell you what the book was about.
[QUOTE=Alan2099;5338878]I actually found the characters in the comic likable (except for Burnout who was basically wallpaper the entire time)[/QUOTE]
The only character I almost liked was Fairchild and dude, I tried.
Roxy and Grunge are just goofy (in a bad way) and Sarah doesn't me convince as a tough girl. And that's a pity because she could be an awesome character.
[QUOTE=Alan2099;5338878]but even having read the entire original series, I couldn't tell you what the book was about.[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's the point. And I read everything too.
I said I like Jim Lee and J. Scott Campbell, but to me they're awesome making art and not creating.
And Brandon Choi writing was so much better in Wild Cats or Deathblow.
This was released, at least in Australia. I bought a copy on VHS, direct from a store, 90% sure it was Target (no relation to US Target, I believe). Haven't watched it in decades, don't remember much about it, to be honest.
[center]Sad to hear so much negativity about the movie. Maybe next time, they should emulate the anime-style (similar to Adam Warren):
[img]https://i.imgur.com/sxJ4uDC.jpg[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/YbSm4YC.jpg[/img][img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/kA71INVe-7MUoQweu_QRxJDvVy7rQR-CW3MD0o0i7XbLx0-5G5UoN0sWeW5ej8neZLCsKBuQE6i5bQqU6k6ES7KfJ4wdRpUgek63Vv4h6m1lLCIP7neYnUJPaUefwAI9Xl_n6rGdrg=s1600[/img][/center]
[QUOTE=K7P5V;5456303][center]Sad to hear so much negativity about the movie. Maybe next time, they should emulate the anime-style (similar to Adam Warren):
[img]https://i.imgur.com/sxJ4uDC.jpg[/img] [img]https://i.imgur.com/YbSm4YC.jpg[/img][/center][/QUOTE]
Dude, I'm a big fan of Adam Warren but not of these comics :cool:
[QUOTE=extra skater;5338934]The only character I almost liked was Fairchild and dude, I tried.
Roxy and Grunge are just goofy (in a bad way) and Sarah doesn't me convince as a tough girl. And that's a pity because she could be an awesome character.
Yes, that's the point. And I read everything too.
I said I like Jim Lee and J. Scott Campbell, but to me they're awesome making art and not creating.
And Brandon Choi writing was so much better in Wild Cats or Deathblow.[/QUOTE]
Back in the 90s at the height of the [i]Gen 13[/i] comic's popularity I knew of a chain of local comic book stores who couldn't give away copies of [i]Deathmate[/i] Black for $1.00 (I think some employees just gave the damn thing for free to some people) which is technically the first appearance for of the [i]Gen 13[/i] characters, later a former manger told me years later that the same stores lost more money on [i]Deathmate[/i] than any other mini-series at that time. He told me this after he left the store. So take it with a grain of salt.
[QUOTE]Back in the 90s at the height of the Gen 13 comic's popularity I knew of a chain of local comic book stores who couldn't give away copies of Deathmate Black for $1.00 (I think some employees just gave the damn thing for free to some people) which is technically the first appearance for of the Gen 13 characters, later a former manger told me years later that the same stores lost more money on Deathmate than any other mini-series at that time. He told me this after he left the store. So take it with a grain of salt. [/QUOTE]
Deathmate was a weird crossover. At the time, the main draw of Vailant was it's storytelling and Image was it's art, and the crossover felt like it was suing Vailant style art with Image storytelling.
[QUOTE=extra skater;5458881]Dude, I'm a big fan of Adam Warren but not of these comics :cool:[/QUOTE]
[center]Me too. I'll always love his version of [I]Gen-13[/I] (especially, when he does interior artwork):
[img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/fxvBA1Jg6eabP918ZaTdct5yMq_vhUAXAjHoqtUDrYnMdmF0LzZB0PmdIChGaDoePPLGjsCGGKfw1HijwttfS6x7VpV0PvaK22uyg-LcPDmPeU3g9eyhldY-SrsPbFcwUARJ9_F8zA=s1600[/img][/center]