-
[QUOTE=MajorHoy;4233365]Here are January's numbers from [URL="https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2019/2019-01.html"]Diamond's Top 500 Comics list[/url] using both DC's [U]and[/U] [U]Marvel[/U]'s ladies[SIZE=1] (at least as best as I can notice)[/SIZE].
I also included the 1st issue of [B][I]Buffy the Vampire Slayer[/I][/B] from [B]Boom[/B]:[indent]2nd - Captain Marvel #1 - 111,391 copies
49th - Wonder Woman #61 - 36,413 copies
52nd - Catwoman #7 - 35,490 copies
54th - Wonder Woman #63 - 34,963 copies
58th - Wonder Woman #62 - 33,870 copies
59th - Black Widow #1 - 33,853 copies
61st - Batgirl #31 - 33,287 copies
69th - Batgirl #30 - 31,084 copies
70th - Buffy The Vampire Slayer #1 (Boom) - 31,043 copies
73rd - Supergirl #26 - 29,499 copies
77th - Spider-Gwen Ghost Spider #4 - 27,721 copies
84th - Harley Quinn #57 - 26,407 copies
86th - X-23 #8 - 25,980 copies
89th - Naomi #1* - 25,252 copies
112th - Domino #10 - 19,655 copies
119th - Mr and Mrs X #7 - 17,864 copies
123rd - Ironheart #2 - 17,507 copies
128th - Old Lady Harley #3 - 17,032 copies
137th - Old Lady Harley #4 - 15,484 copies
138th - Shuri #4 - 15,445 copies
146th - Ms. Marvel #37 - 14,250 copies
169th - Suicide Squad Black Files #3 (Katana) - 11,326 copies
176th - Raven Daughter of Darkness #11 - 10,504 copies
183rd - Raven Daughter of Darkness #12 - 10,102 copies
186th - Pearl #6 - 9,988 copies
200th - Scarlet #5 - 9,612 copies
207th - Silencer #12 - 9,231 copies
213th - Silencer #13 - 8,683 copies
217th - Hex Wives #3 - 8,286 copies
218th - Unbeatable Squirrel Girl #40 - 8,257 copies
221st - Goddess Mode #2 - 8,116 copies
237th - Hex Wives #4 - 7,157 copies
250th - Unstoppable Wasp #4 - 6,613 copies
272nd - Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur #39 - 5,878 copies[/indent]
NOTE: Some DC books had an additional issue ship in January since no DC comics were scheduled to ship on the last week in December (and January 2019 had five Wednesdays).
Again, hopefully I didn't leave any titles from DC or Marvel off of this list that should have been included.[/QUOTE]
I don't know if it's because of variant covers or not, but it's nice to see [I]Batgirl[/I] up around 30K.
Seems like the only ladies who can consistently hold good numbers for solo books are Wonder Woman, Catwoman, Batgirl, Supergirl, Harley, X-23, and maybe Spider-Gwen?
Juries still out on Carol with her latest relaunch.
-
[QUOTE=Frontier;4234069]I don't know if it's because of variant covers or not, but it's nice to see [I]Batgirl[/I] up around 30K.
Seems like the only ladies who can consistently hold good numbers for solo books are Wonder Woman, Catwoman, Batgirl, Supergirl, Harley, X-23, and maybe Spider-Gwen?
Juries still out on Carol with her latest relaunch.[/QUOTE]I posted this over in the Marvel Comics section of the Forum which may be worth noting:[QUOTE=MajorHoy;4233703]By the way, of those January numbers from Diamond, it's sad to note that the only titles from Marvel starring a female lead and with a higher issue number than 12 were:[QUOTE=MajorHoy;4233329] . . . January's numbers from [URL="https://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2019/2019-01.html"]Diamond's Top 500 Comics list[/url][indent]146th - Ms. Marvel #37 - 14,250 copies
218th - Unbeatable Squirrel Girl #40 - 8,257 copies
272nd - Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur #39 - 5,878 copies[/indent][/QUOTE]None of which are all that impressive ranking-wise nor by the number of copies ordered from Diamond. :( [/QUOTE]At least DC seems to have more female-lead heroes doing well with issue numbers above #12, but those include females who are the counterparts of popular male characters or have some other connection to those popular male characters. Wonder Woman is the exception to all that.
-
[QUOTE=Frontier;4234069]I don't know if it's because of variant covers or not, but it's nice to see [I]Batgirl[/I] up around 30K.
Seems like the only ladies who can consistently hold good numbers for solo books are Wonder Woman, Catwoman, Batgirl, Supergirl, Harley, X-23, and maybe Spider-Gwen?
Juries still out on Carol with her latest relaunch.[/QUOTE]
Batgirl #31 has a variant of Artgerm.
Variants of Artgerm usually increase the sales of Supergirl (in fact, Supergirl #26 has a variant of Artgerm too). So, it's likely this increase the sales of Batgirl #31 too.
PS: I remember that the foil covers of Artgerm increase 20K the sales of some comics in October.
-
Sad to see catwoman on the slide - nice book.
-
Out of curiosity, I decided to research the DC women who had the longest solo runs in general for comparison, and it turned out to be these:
Wonder Woman (1942-1986) - 329 issues
Wonder Woman (1987-2006) - 226 issues
Superman's Girl Friend, Lois Lane (1958-1974) - 137 issues
Catwoman (1993-2001) - 94 issues
Catwoman (2002-2010) - 83 issues
Supergirl (1996-2003) - 80 issues
Wonder Woman (2016-present) - 78 issues
Batgirl (2000-2006) - 73 issues
Supergirl (2005-2011) - 67 issues
Harley Quinn (2016-present) - 65 issues
Wonder Woman (2006-2011) - 59 issues
Batgirl (2011-2016) - 52 issues
Catwoman (2011-2016) - 52 issues
Wonder Woman (2011-2016) - 52 issues
Batwoman (2011-2015) - 40 issues
Supergirl (2011-2015) - 40 issues
Batgirl (2016-present) - 38 issues
Harley Quinn (2000-2004) - 38 issues
Manhunter (2004-2009) - 38 issues
Supergirl (2016-present) - 33 issues
Harley Quinn (2013-2016) - 30 issues
Power Girl (2009-2011) - 27 issues
Batgirl (2009-2011) - 24 issues
Supergirl (1982-1984) - 23 issues
The Huntress (1989-1990) - 19 issues
Batwoman (2017-2018) - 18 issues
The Silencer (2018-2019) - 18 issues
Superwoman (2016-2018) - 18 issues
Doctor Fate (1991-1992) - 17 issues
Hawkgirl (2006-2007) - 17 issues
Sensation Comics Featuring Wonder Woman (2014-2016) - 17 issues
Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld (1985-1986) - 16 issues
Zatanna (2010-2011) - 16 issues
Anima (1994-1995) - 15 issues
Catwoman (2018-present) - 15 issues
Scarlett (1993-1994) - 14 issues
Trinity of Sin: Pandora (2013-2014) - 14 issues
Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld (1983-1984) - 12 issues
Black Canary (1993) - 12 issues
Black Canary (2015-2016) - 12 issues
Mother Panic (2017) - 12 issues
Pearl (2018-2019) - 12 issues
Raven: Daughter of Darkness (2018-2019) - 12 issues
Shade, The Changing Girl (2016-2017) - 12 issues
Starfire (2015-2016) - 12 issues
Thriller (1983-1984) - 12 issues
Voodoo (2011-2012) - 12 issues
Katana (2013-2014) - 10 issues
Supergirl (1972-1974) - 10 issues
-
If I was DC, and I saw Wonder Woman, Batgirl, and Supergirl falling below 50,000 orders, heads would start rolling; it's unacceptable.
If we look at some more recent numbers, we'll see that Black Cat was leading all female lead books with 80,000+ orders in July, according to Comichron. Vampirella came in at a close second with 70,000+ orders.
A poster also mentioned that characters like the Invisible Woman didn't seem to be very popular anymore. Well, according to Comichron, Invisible Woman sold 60,000+ issues in July.
-
[QUOTE=Citizen Kane;4568192]If I was DC, and I saw Wonder Woman, Batgirl, and Supergirl falling below 50,000 orders, heads would start rolling; it's unacceptable.
If we look at some more recent numbers, we'll see that Black Cat was leading all female lead books with 80,000+ orders in July, according to Comichron. Vampirella came in at a close second with 70,000+ orders.
A poster also mentioned that characters like the Invisible Woman didn't seem to be very popular anymore. Well, according to Comichron, Invisible Woman sold 60,000+ issues in July.[/QUOTE]
As much as I love the character I'll need to be the first one to point out that[I] Black Cat[/I] is bolstered a lot by variant covers.
-
[QUOTE=Citizen Kane;4568192]If I was DC, and I saw Wonder Woman, Batgirl, and Supergirl falling below 50,000 orders, heads would start rolling; it's unacceptable.
If we look at some more recent numbers, we'll see that Black Cat was leading all female lead books with 80,000+ orders in July, according to Comichron. Vampirella came in at a close second with 70,000+ orders.
A poster also mentioned that characters like the Invisible Woman didn't seem to be very popular anymore. Well, according to Comichron, Invisible Woman sold 60,000+ issues in July.[/QUOTE]
Not surprised they’ve focused most on the women strongly associated with the Wonder Woman, Batman, and Superman brands, though I’m rather surprised Kate Spencer as Manhunter hasn’t starred in more solo titles. The ball seemed to start rolling with her relatively successful 2004 series.
-
[QUOTE=Aahz;4162423]
But I don't read both series, so have no idea what caused this big decline of Harley's sales numbers.[/QUOTE]
While I still read it, a lot of the... for want of a better word, "fun", has been taken out of it since Conner and Palmiotti left.
-
[QUOTE=Electricmastro;4567726]Out of curiosity, I decided to research the DC women who had the longest solo runs in general for comparison, and it turned out to be these:
Wonder Woman (1942-1986) - 329 issues
Wonder Woman (1987-2006) - 226 issues
Superman's Girl Friend, Lois Lane (1958-1974) - 137 issues
Catwoman (1993-2001) - 94 issues
Catwoman (2002-2010) - 83 issues
Supergirl (1996-2003) - 80 issues
Wonder Woman (2016-present) - 78 issues
Batgirl (2000-2006) - 73 issues
Supergirl (2005-2011) - 67 issues
Harley Quinn (2016-present) - 65 issues
Wonder Woman (2006-2011) - 59 issues
Wonder Woman (2011-2016) - 52 issues
Batgirl (2011-2016) - 52 issues
Batwoman (2011-2015) - 40 issues
Supergirl (2011-2015) - 40 issues
Batgirl (2016-present) - 38 issues
Harley Quinn (2000-2004) - 38 issues
Manhunter (2004-2009) - 38 issues
Supergirl (2016-present) - 33 issues
Harley Quinn (2013-2016) - 30 issues
Power Girl (2009-2011) - 27 issues
Batgirl (2009-2011) - 24 issues
Supergirl (1982-1984) - 23 issues
The Huntress (1989-1990) - 19 issues
Batwoman (2017-2018) - 18 issues
The Silencer (2018-2019) - 18 issues
Superwoman (2016-2018) - 18 issues
Doctor Fate (1991-1992) - 17 issues
Hawkgirl (2006-2007) - 17 issues
Sensation Comics Featuring Wonder Woman (2014-2016) - 17 issues
Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld (1985-1986) - 16 issues
Zatanna (2010-2011) - 16 issues
Anima (1994-1995) - 15 issues
Catwoman (2018-present) - 15 issues[/QUOTE]
Voodoo also had a comic book solo series in The New 52, but I'm not sure how many issues it lasted.
-
[QUOTE=MoneySpider;4569052]Voodoo also had a comic book solo series in The New 52, but I'm not sure how many issues it lasted.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, her solo series lasted 12 issues (13 if you count issue #0). I suppose I might as well list the ones that lasted from 10-14 issues too.
Scarlett (1993-1994) - 14 issues
Trinity of Sin: Pandora (2013-2014) - 14 issues
Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld (1983-1984) - 12 issues
Black Canary (1993) - 12 issues
Black Canary (2015-2016) - 12 issues
Mother Panic (2017) - 12 issues
Pearl (2018-2019) - 12 issues
Raven: Daughter of Darkness (2018-2019) - 12 issues
Shade, The Changing Girl (2016-2017) - 12 issues
Starfire (2015-2016) - 12 issues
Thriller (1983-1984) - 12 issues
Voodoo (2011-2012) - 12 issues
Katana (2013-2014) - 10 issues
Supergirl (1972-1974) - 10 issues
-
[QUOTE=Citizen Kane;4568192]If I was DC, and I saw Wonder Woman, Batgirl, and Supergirl falling below 50,000 orders, heads would start rolling; it's unacceptable.[/QUOTE]
Trouble is, Wonder Woman has been well south of 50,000 orders for a long time now, so whose head is gonna roll? Add to that the way that DC and Marvel are sold has for a long time adapted itself to primarily selling to a market of white middle-aged men. To me, it's much more important for titles like Wonder Woman or Batgirl to reach new audiences, outside of the core comic-book reader demographic that the LCSs cater to.
-
[QUOTE=Citizen Kane;4568192]If I was DC, and I saw Wonder Woman, Batgirl, and Supergirl falling below 50,000 orders, heads would start rolling; it's unacceptable.
If we look at some more recent numbers, we'll see that Black Cat was leading all female lead books with 80,000+ orders in July, according to Comichron. Vampirella came in at a close second with 70,000+ orders.
A poster also mentioned that characters like the Invisible Woman didn't seem to be very popular anymore. Well, according to Comichron, Invisible Woman sold 60,000+ issues in July.[/QUOTE]The first couple of issue of a new series are never really representative of what it can sell on the long run. You have usually to wait to roughly issue #6 to see how the book is really doing.
The current Batgirl and Wonder Woman had iirc similar numbers when they were started.
-
[QUOTE=AdventureBliss;4568396]While I still read it, a lot of the... for want of a better word, "fun", has been taken out of it since Conner and Palmiotti left.[/QUOTE]
I think this has definitely been a factor, the book has lost it's way since they left.
-
[QUOTE=kjn;4569362]Trouble is, Wonder Woman has been well south of 50,000 orders for a long time now, so whose head is gonna roll? Add to that the way that DC and Marvel are sold has for a long time adapted itself to primarily selling to a market of white middle-aged men. To me, it's much more important for titles like Wonder Woman or Batgirl to reach new audiences, outside of the core comic-book reader demographic that the LCSs cater to.[/QUOTE]
That's probably what they have the DC Zoom and Ink books for (even if they're not called that anymore).