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[QUOTE=BatmanJones;4609527]Where's the news? @Bored at 3AM's been on top of this for years.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I'm actually a little overwhelmed that DC appears to be taking the exact same approach to DCU history that I did. As my own little head canon, it worked perfectly for me, but the idea that DC was thinking the same thing seems to good to be true to be honest.
I'm cautiously optimistic about all this.
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[QUOTE=Buried Alien;4609544]I think they stole Bored's idea.
[COLOR=red]Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)[/color][/QUOTE]
Ha! Yes, yes. My lawyers will be contacting them shortly ;)
It's early days yet, but this sure looks like the best possible scenario in terms of approaching DC's continuity. Stop trying to make it realistic and logical and just go full-bore with how epic and superhero crazy it is. Even Marvel can't compete with how much variety and depth DC continuity has. Glad to see DC seems to have finally decided to stop running away from all that delicious comic book insanity and is embracing it.
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But doomsday clock said superman is the first of all.
Even then the DCU keep rebooted
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[QUOTE=hkgkindaichi;4609646]But doomsday clock said superman is the first of all.
Even then the DCU keep rebooted[/QUOTE]
At this point Doomsday Clock isn't even canon or will be used as a catalyst for establishing this new timeline or whatever its going to be. I feel like DC is actually opening a whole new can of worms.
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There are redacted bits in the charts. Maybe those are for Watchmen and what DDC changes.
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[QUOTE=Zaresh;4609564]I can't believe they're going to actually make Dick in his 30s.[/QUOTE]
If Dick became Robin 32 years ago, then he’d be in his 40s.
Even in isolation, these Generations don’t make much sense. Tim Drake wasn’t in his 20s during Infinite Crisis.
This kind of timeline only seems useful for someone writing about the history of the DC Multiverse and its Crisis events. It’s not useful information for whoever is writing Nightwing, where he’s clearly in his 20s.
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Guys. I can't believe I missed it, but in the largest picture, above all the timeline, written in blue, it's said
DC CHARACTER TIMELINE
8(something) YEARS REAL TIME (19something-2something) / 6(something) YEARS ELAPSED TIME
25+15+15+5=65
The gen years are not real-time. Bruce is not 60, Dick is not 40. Tim is not 20.
It's right there. I can't believe I missed the biggest words XD
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What does that even mean though? If these years aren’t years, then what are they? Did Generation 2 begin 35 years ago or not? In the real world the Silver Age began over 60 years ago. So what are these 35 years supposed to be?
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If they aren't year years, then they shoulda made it an 81 year timeline.
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[QUOTE=Lee;4609812]What does that even mean though? If these years aren’t years, then what are they? Did Generation 2 begin 35 years ago or not? In the real world, the Silver Age began over 60 years ago. So what are these 35 years supposed to be?[/QUOTE]
Oh. Markers, I guess.
Or... just the way they name things since they've been doing Batman Year One, Superman Year One...
I only care that it's not real-time.
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[QUOTE=Johnny;4609525]I'm going to be perfectly honest here, I never understood why both fans and creators are always so obsessed with trying to make logical sense out of a fictional timeline that's been around for close to a century and rebooted or reimagined almost every decade. .[/QUOTE]
Not a creator, but as fan I do it because it's fun.
[QUOTE]These characters will always be around as long as this format exists, they will never grow old or get permanently killed off, or retire for good. What difference does it make whether something like "A Death In The Family" happened before or after another important Batman story. I just don't get it, why even go through the trouble of trying to make any sense out of a timeline like this[/QUOTE]
I understand that your favorite character is Hal Jordan. Archetypicial, Silver Age, mostly originator of the current franchise. And when you look at him, this doesn't matter, you're right.
Now, let's take my favorite character, which is Wally West (but this logic applies to most legacy heroes, and some non legacy): without his history, he's not really Wally. You can't boil him down to an essential set of traits and just tell stories. His existence and status are dependent on the larger DCU. In this cases, it matters.
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Okay. I got curious. Let's try this one.
Generation 1
Year 1 Baby Clark crashed in Smallville
Year 13 Clark becomes Superboy
Year 18 Clark stops acting Superboy
The timeline makes sense if Clark is Superboy starting the age 13 and stops at age 18
Year 6 Thomas and Martha Wayne married?
Year 16 Thomas and Martha Wayne died
Bruce lost his parents at 10 years old. Makes sense.
Then 9+ years pass
Generation 2
Year 1 Batman and Superman debuts
Bruce age 20
Clark is 26
Year 3 Dick Grayson becomes Robin
Year 15 Dick Grayson becomes Nightwing - Crisis on Infinite Earths
If he starts at 10, he'll be 22 in Crisis
If he starts at 8, he'll be 20
Bruce is 35
Clark is 41
Then Crisis happened, and everyone got younger. (No I don't care how much they got younger. I don't think DC does. Just go with what make sense to you)
Generation 3
Year 5 or 6 Damian is conceived and born
Year 14 Final Crisis Damian debuts
Damian debuts at 10 years old, his standard age
Then Flashpoint happened, everyone got younger again.
Generation 4
Year 2 Damian dies
Year 3 Damian returns
Damian is 13 years old
That sounds right?
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[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4609792]Guys. I can't believe I missed it, but in the largest picture, above all the timeline, written in blue, it's said
DC CHARACTER TIMELINE
8(something) YEARS REAL TIME (19something-2something) / 6(something) YEARS ELAPSED TIME
25+15+15+5=65
The gen years are not real-time. Bruce is not 60, Dick is not 40. Tim is not 20.
It's right there. I can't believe I missed the biggest words XD[/QUOTE]
That is interesting. Went back to look again. Looks like it says "82 YEARS REAL TIME (1938-2020) / 60 YEARS ELAPSED TIME."
So the generation years [b]are[/b] realtime. But why condense it so little? Seems like the timeline should either be condensed a lot or not at all.
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[QUOTE=Tzigone;4609857]That is interesting. Went back to look again. Looks like it says "82 YEARS REAL TIME (1938-2020) / 60 YEARS ELAPSED TIME."
So the generation years [b]are[/b] realtime. But why condense it so little? Seems like the timeline should either be condensed a lot or not at all.[/QUOTE]
Time shenanigans probably reset everyone's age at some point.
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I think we are being overly concerned with a timeline that hasn’t been revealed in full. Plus, what is here is NOT fully legible. I think waiting for the full and final reveal would be a good idea.