No gear, no flight and no super speed for WW. Just a fight on physical stats on land between her and AQ.
Round 2: On land. No Gear. But WW can use her super speed while Arthur gets his trident.
How do you think this battles would go?
No gear, no flight and no super speed for WW. Just a fight on physical stats on land between her and AQ.
Round 2: On land. No Gear. But WW can use her super speed while Arthur gets his trident.
How do you think this battles would go?
I mean I'd think Wonder Woman would have to, but I don't actually have feats to back that up. She was always stronger than him, but as I have said before the post crisis power ladder has been thrown out.
[QUOTE=Captain Morgan;5659232]I mean I'd think Wonder Woman would have to, but I don't actually have feats to back that up. She was always stronger than him, but as I have said before the post crisis power ladder has been thrown out.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure somebody can post feats. I don't want to do it in a thread i created myself.
[QUOTE=mystical41;5661588]I'm sure somebody can post feats. I don't want to do it in a thread i created myself.[/QUOTE]
Why not? Use it as an opportunity to educate folks. If no one is weighing in it is usually because no one really knows the characters well enough.
[QUOTE=Captain Morgan;5661848]Why not? Use it as an opportunity to educate folks. If no one is weighing in it is usually because no one really knows the characters well enough.[/QUOTE]
Because it'd be better if the debate is not carried on by the same person that created the thread.
[QUOTE=mystical41;5661988]Because it'd be better if the debate is not carried on by the same person that created the thread.[/QUOTE]
Well, then it doesn't seem like the debate will actually happen. Been 3 days and I'm your only nibble.
Last I checked, she has him outclassed. Even if strength was equalized, flight and superior speed and skill would win out I’d think.
[QUOTE=Cleric of Hell’s Brigade;5662375]Last I checked, she has him outclassed. Even if strength was equalized, flight and superior speed and skill would win out I’d think.[/QUOTE]
I think strength would be debatable.
[QUOTE=Cleric of Hell’s Brigade;5662375]Last I checked, she has him outclassed. Even if strength was equalized, flight and superior speed and skill would win out I’d think.[/QUOTE]
The OP specified:
[QUOTE=mystical41]No gear, no flight and no super speed for WW.[/QUOTE]
Anyway, I'll say Arthur wins this. He was able to stun Superman with a punch. Yes I know Superman didn't want to fight/was holding back, but that doesn't change the fact it affected him. New 52 WW seems much weaker than pre-Flashpoint, hence her need to rely on a xiphos. Plus the fact that New 52 WW is basically a dumb, reckless, bloodthirsty brute means Arthur can easily outsmart her.
[QUOTE=hareluyafan1;5665145]The OP specified:
Anyway, I'll say Arthur wins this. He was able to stun Superman with a punch. Yes I know Superman didn't want to fight/was holding back, but that doesn't change the fact it affected him. New 52 WW seems much weaker than pre-Flashpoint, hence her need to rely on a xiphos. Plus the fact that New 52 WW is basically a dumb, reckless, bloodthirsty brute means Arthur can easily outsmart her.[/QUOTE]
I did. Although in round 2 she is allowed to use her super speed.
Affecting SM with a punch doesn't put AQ on his level. New 52 WW also hurt SM with a hit. And she didn't need the so called God mode to do it. That doesn't make her SM level in strength. You are right about JL New 52 WW being dumb and bloodthirsty. But that is just one book, there is more to New 52 than that plus Rebirth is also included in this thread.
[QUOTE=hareluyafan1;5665145]The OP specified:
Anyway, I'll say Arthur wins this. He was able to stun Superman with a punch. Yes I know Superman didn't want to fight/was holding back, but that doesn't change the fact it affected him. New 52 WW seems much weaker than pre-Flashpoint, hence her need to rely on a xiphos. Plus the fact that New 52 WW is basically a dumb, reckless, bloodthirsty brute means Arthur can easily outsmart her.[/QUOTE]
Arthur has no chance, especially not in round 2, even New-52 Wonder Woman can still bloody Superman:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/JgJf1B5.jpg[/IMG]
is more skilled than Arthur:
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/dGD1weH.jpeg[/IMG]
and for round 2, can blitz Kryptonians like Supergirl:
[IMG]https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11115/111157701/3846765-0847527152-28903.jpg[/IMG]
and that are just a couple of far more examples and not even going into rebirth. As bad written as New 52 often were and as much as Flashpoint nerfed her for a long time, she was not nearly dumb or nerfed enough to lose this, the tries to push Aquaman were far to half-assed for that and no gear would technically even mean an active god-mode with New-52 Wonder Woman.