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[B][U][SIZE=7]Mahershala Ali is Blade.[/SIZE][/U][/B]
This is a welcome surprise.
He went from dealing drugs and guns to slaying vampires. That one hell of a promotion.
This movie has to be R rated. PG-13 will be a waste. Wish they could have picked a younger guy. Prefer studios at least pick actors in their 30's for future films.
[QUOTE=Colossus1980;4470445]This movie has to be R rated. PG-13 will be a waste. Wish they could have picked a younger guy. Prefer studios at least pick actors in their 30's for future films.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm wondering what they're going to do with Blade since he's a very difficult character to apply with the kind of tone and style the MCU movies have.
I was figuring that made him more likely to appear in the Hulu stuff then in something like this.
But still. Blade! And Mahershala Ali :D.
Mahershala Ali as Blade....shut up and take my money
Blade in the comics deals with more than just Vampires. So expanding things out a bit would be a good start.
I wonder if the film will be rated R though. Probably not, because...Disney.
Take the cursing out of Blade 2 what else made it rated R? Blade is better off as rated R project but it is not imperative for good blade movie.
Ali is an amazing actor. I am pretty hyped about this
Ah I don't know how I feel about this. Casting feels off but whatever...
Cottonmouth had to die for Blade to live
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I can see it. Wonder who will be Deacon Frost.
[QUOTE=Killerbee911;4470840]Take the cursing out of Blade 2 what else made it rated R? Blade is better off as rated R project but it is not imperative for good blade movie.
Ali is an amazing actor. I am pretty hyped about this[/QUOTE]
There was a lot of blood in that movie. Remember the dude that got blown up in the hall way from that explosive foam or whatever? Not happening in a Disney movie lol.
Don't get me wrong. Doesn't have to be rated R to be good for the character of Blade, but I do feel that that version of Blade did set the bar for who he is today, and what kind of universe he lives in.
[QUOTE=Kusanagi;4470484]Mahershala Ali as Blade....shut up and take my money[/QUOTE]
It's almost too perfect. I wasn't expecting this and I definitely didn't expect to be this hyped about it.
[QUOTE=HowitzerJoe;4470907]There was a lot of blood in that movie. Remember the dude that got blown up in the hall way from that explosive foam or whatever? Not happening in a Disney movie lol.
Don't get me wrong. Doesn't have to be rated R to be good for the character of Blade, but I do feel that that version of Blade did set the bar for who he is today, and what kind of universe he lives in.[/QUOTE]
I prefer they just go R Rated since the original Blade was R Rated. I already said it last week on x books. this could be the start of an adult contemporary marvel universe. If Blade is successful, marvel can then introduced X-Force and become bolder telling mature stories.
[QUOTE=HowitzerJoe;4470907]There was a lot of blood in that movie. Remember the dude that got blown up in the hall way from that explosive foam or whatever? Not happening in a Disney movie lol.
Don't get me wrong. Doesn't have to be rated R to be good for the character of Blade, but I do feel that that version of Blade did set the bar for who he is today, and what kind of universe he lives in.[/QUOTE]
The general point it is really wasn't that gruesome or sexual and Vampires explode in ash so they can be pretty violent with having to use blood. I have seen the TV cuts of Blade movies and it doesn't suffer in transition. Now I prefer an R rating just to give them to the flexibility be more scary or more gruesome. Maybe touch on some content in a more mature way but Blade would be perfectly as PG13 movie as well
Now what could happen is Blade might be first in maybe a "Marvel Knights" line to be followed eventually by say Daredevil, Punisher, Electra, Luke Cage, etc.. Maybe even Deadpool and Wolverine in the future
[QUOTE=HowitzerJoe;4470716]I wonder if the film will be rated R though. Probably not, because...Disney.[/QUOTE]
I think Logan and Deadpool have both proven there is a market for it.
Honestly I just think he shouldn't be in the MCU and should simply stand on its own, just like those previously mentioned movies. Or, sense its on the heels of the new Dr Strange which they already described as their first foray in to horror, they can firmly root him in a different multiverse so everyone is happy.
and as for the " because ... Disney" argument: You know Disney releases R rated movies all the time, right? They just do it under acquisitions like "Mirimax", just like Marvel is Disney because they acquired Marvel Studios. Technically "Disney" includes Pulp Fiction and Scream.
"The 'Old' Blade Films Were 'R' Rated..." is about the worst argument for the new films to have an "R" rating I can think of.
Should the upcoming "Joker" film's rating be tied to initial Burton film's just because it came first? Of course not.
Just not the most sensible line of reasoning.
[QUOTE=Killerbee911;4471027]The general point it is really wasn't that gruesome or sexual and Vampires explode in ash so they can be pretty violent with having to use blood. I have seen the TV cuts of Blade movies and it doesn't suffer in transition. Now I prefer an R rating just to give them to the flexibility be more scary or more gruesome. Maybe touch on some content in a more mature way but Blade would be perfectly as PG13 movie as well
Now what could happen is Blade might be first in maybe a "Marvel Knights" line to be followed eventually by say Daredevil, Punisher, Electra, Luke Cage, etc.. Maybe even Deadpool and Wolverine in the future[/QUOTE]
Uhhh, for a Disney movie half of the content in that Blade film from 1998 would not make it past censors. That's just a fact buddy. Seeing certain cuts of the film on TV is really irrelevant since there is rated R shows on television anyway. Blade might be ok for a network like TBS or TNT, but it would never air on ABC lol, like most Marvel films could. The next iteration won't be as dark. Doesn't mean that film won't be as good or better.
[QUOTE=numberthirty;4471038][B]"The 'Old' Blade Films Were 'R' Rated..." is about the worst argument for the new films to have an "R" rating I can think of.[/B]
Should the upcoming "Joker" film's rating be tied to initial Burton film's just because it came first? Of course not.
Just not the most sensible line of reasoning.[/QUOTE]
No one here is making that argument WTF...
Unless this is something you heard elsewhere.
[QUOTE=HowitzerJoe;4471121]No one here is making that argument WTF...
Unless this is something you heard elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
Heard it in page one of this thread...
[QUOTE=Beaddle;4471006][B][COLOR="#0000FF"]I prefer they just go R Rated since the original Blade was R Rated.[/COLOR][/B] I already said it last week on x books. this could be the start of an adult contemporary marvel universe. If Blade is successful, marvel can then introduced X-Force and become bolder telling mature stories.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GrandEleven;4471032]I think Logan and Deadpool have both proven there is a market for it.
Honestly I just think he shouldn't be in the MCU and should simply stand on its own, just like those previously mentioned movies. Or, sense its on the heels of the new Dr Strange which they already described as their first foray in to horror, they can firmly root him in a different multiverse so everyone is happy.
and as for the " because ... Disney" argument: You know Disney releases R rated movies all the time, right? They just do it under acquisitions like "Mirimax", just like Marvel is Disney because they acquired Marvel Studios. Technically "Disney" includes Pulp Fiction and Scream.[/QUOTE]
There is a market for it. Just under the Disney/Marvel umbrella it won't work. At the panel today Feige quickly mentioned that even the Dr. Strange film will be rated PG-13 right after the description using the word "horror" was dropped.
Yes, I know about Disney's other movie divisions. The MCU is a huge film franchise though that is mostly family friendly, and known in the public eye as being owned by Disney. They won't cross into R territory with their big guns. Especially with merchandising and all that jazz. Pulp Fiction ain't selling toys and video games.
[QUOTE=numberthirty;4471127]Heard it in page one of this thread...[/QUOTE]
Okay I see that now. Sounds more like a preference based on taste though.
I can’t imagine anyone being a better Blade than Snipes was, but...maybe?
[QUOTE=Star_Jammer;4471157]I can’t imagine anyone being a better Blade than Snipes was, but...maybe?[/QUOTE]
Probably depends on what they intend on doing?
Trying to recreate the original recipe? Probably not the smartest call.
Doing something a bit different? Who knows?
Obvious Snipes is a martial artist and clearly excelled in that area, But Ali can run circles around him acting wise with benefit of Ali isn't a-hole on set. I think people need to use to these characters changing actors ,We have had how many Batmans and Jokers now? When actor and movie script is good they will bring something new character that we will enjoy like Heath Ledger.
[QUOTE=Killerbee911;4471330]Obvious Snipes is a martial artist and clearly excelled in that area, But Ali can run circles around him acting wise with benefit of Ali isn't a-hole on set. I think people need to use to these characters changing actors ,We have had how many Batmans and Jokers now? When actor and movie script is good they will bring something new character that we will enjoy like Heath Ledger.[/QUOTE]
While I don't disagree with the broadest version of this take, we are talking about a very particular sort of character.
Unless they intend on changing the origin, Eric will still be being whose mother was attacked by a vampire while he was in utero. While you can do a lot of different versions of "Human Being Of Questionable Stability Adopts 'Clown' Motif...", Eric is going to have some more set parameters.
[QUOTE=Star_Jammer;4471157]I can’t imagine anyone being a better Blade than Snipes was, but...maybe?[/QUOTE]
I can't picture it myself so I'm not even going to bother with this movie.
[QUOTE=Star_Jammer;4471157]I can’t imagine anyone being a better Blade than Snipes was, but...maybe?[/QUOTE]
Ali is an incredible actor so I think he will kill it. Helps that he’s not a complete drama queen on set like Snipes has been known to be.
[QUOTE=BlackClaw;4471427]Ali is an incredible actor so I think he will kill it. Helps that he’s not a complete drama queen on set like Snipes has been known to be.[/QUOTE]
Snipes was never known to be a drama queen onset before or after Trinity. Ppl expected him to just roll over and hand a franchise he built from the ground up to Ryan Reynolds and Jessica Beal. So the drama queen story is bullshit. Ali is a good actor not sure if he's right for Blade tho.
Wesley was at his peak in the 90s. People thought he was going to be even huger then he was. Also y'all acting like Wesley can't act he has great performances under his belt don't get it twisted. The man is a versatile actor if you watch his other works beside Blade. He's been inching back post prison like RDJ, but Marvel wanted a younger more current Blade and Ali's celebrity is at an all-time high with his awards and roles in critically acclaimed movies and tv shows. Wesley will likely be Jamal Affari in the first or second movie in this reboot.
As for Blade 3, Goyer never directed a commercial let alone a hit movie. That was one of the failings of New Line it was a mom and pop operation in a sense. They screwed over Spawn they almost screwed over Blade 1 if you do some digging. Blade 3 was kinda screwed from the start and you can't blame Wesley for being upset and seeing it coming. This notion that somehow he's a primadonna when this is literally the only instance recorded along with the reasons I laid out makes it silly. David Harbor was supposed to be terrible on the set of the new Hellboy. Christian Bale was terrible on the set of Terminator (supposedly). You can go down the list of actors who are said to be hard to work with or had attitude problems. Gene Hackman is supposed to be awful to everyone. James Spader has epic melt downs on the Black List every time his co-star messes up or flubs a line. Charlie Sheen, Shannen Doherty, Sharon Stone, Mike Meyers, Edward Norton (I actually disagree with this one), Casey Affleck, Katherine Heigl, Chevy Chase, Bruce Willis, Daniel Day-Lewis, Tom Hardy, Russell Crowe, Alec Baldwin, Steven Seaagall, Marlon Brando, Shia LaBeouf, and Kirk Cameron. These are people with a history and track records. Directors like Francis Ford Coppola and David O. Russell have track records of being crazy difficult to work with. Wesley should never be labeled a diva based on his body of work, especially when he was in the right about Blade 3 and tried to save it initially.
Wesley Snipes in his long career is anything but that. However, Wesley is not the star he was then and the MCU has grown into something bigger. They wanted something for the next generation. RDJ worked out because they liked him and they got him for cheap initially. The rest is history. Marvel's being forward-thinking about this
If they could do a movie with the level of dark that the Netflix shows managed without going R, I think it’s doable. Though I still think it would have been better as an Hulu tv show that could crossover with Gabe’s Ghost Rider and Helstrom.
Movie has a bigger budget and bigger exposure and will be taken more seriously by Disney. A movie can do more for Marvel and Disney. Hulu really can’t so I’m glad Kevin pushes for it.
Snipes has been in constant contact with Marvel Studios since his release and spoke about it as recently as last August. I doubt this is a coincidence. He said he had two Blade projects and they were so good it was only a matter of picking one over the other. I'm wondering if this is one of them, or a version of it. I'm also wondering if he'll be Drumm. He wanted to be BP but that fell through, he [I]was[/I] Blade, but maybe after all this time he figures let someone else do it while he plays another black character. Which I'd be all for. But that's just speculation.
Finally, just want to say to Cliffhanger2 and Jabare: thanks. Glad I'm not the only one to ever point out those things.
[QUOTE=Nate Grey;4472575]Snipes has been in constant contact with Marvel Studios since his release and spoke about it as recently as last August. I doubt this is a coincidence. He said he had two Blade projects and they were so good it was only a matter of picking one over the other. I'm wondering if this is one of them, or a version of it. I'm also wondering if he'll be Drumm. He wanted to be BP but that fell through, he [I]was[/I] Blade, but maybe after all this time he figures let someone else do it while he plays another black character. Which I'd be all for. But that's just speculation.
Finally, just want to say to Cliffhanger2 and Jabare: thanks. Glad I'm not the only one to ever point out those things.[/QUOTE]
Yo no problem. It's hard to see how ppl were so quick to drag Wesley after one movie.
[QUOTE=Frontier;4470458]Yeah, I'm wondering what they're going to do with Blade since he's a very difficult character to apply with the kind of tone and style the MCU movies have.
I was figuring that made him more likely to appear in the Hulu stuff then in something like this.
But still. Blade! And Mahershala Ali :D.[/QUOTE]
My sentiments exactly.
The first Blade was one of my favourite films. I really hope they won't 'tone it down'
After all, they made the end of Asgard a comedy!
Wesley can act. He's one of those action stars that can also do more dramatic stuff, or even comedy at times. His problem was more him getting a big ego and a rep for being "difficult to work with," which hurt his career. Oh and the whole "going to prison for tax evasion" thing as well.
From what I've heard, he wanted to do Black Panther at first, and when that didn't work out we got Blade instead. So I'd love to see Wesley appear in BP 2, that'd be cool.
I'll be watching this for sure. While Mahershala Ali is not who I think of when I think of Blade, I fully admit that my perception of who Blade should be is defined by Wesley Snipes. I cannot imagine anyone else being able to portray Blade on live action better than Snipes.
Ali is a fantastic actor and I can see him bringing something very new and different compared to what Snipes did. No matter what, I just wanted something Blade related and I am so glad Marvel Studios is finally taking a crack at the character.
[QUOTE=Punisher007;4472953]Wesley can act. He's one of those action stars that can also do more dramatic stuff, or even comedy at times. His problem was more him getting a big ego and a rep for being "difficult to work with," which hurt his career. Oh and the whole "going to prison for tax evasion" thing as well.
From what I've heard, he wanted to do Black Panther at first, and when that didn't work out we got Blade instead. So I'd love to see Wesley appear in BP 2, that'd be cool.[/QUOTE]
See people say that. It was one movie Blade 3 and they brought in a director snipes didnt want and tried to screw Snipes out of Money. He didnt wanna do the movie and maybe acted less then mature. But other then that one movie I've seen people say nothing but nice things about him. His career stalled out cause he went to prison and prior did a bunch of shitty movies overseas to raise funds before going to prison. Snipes it a show stealer imo. One of my favorite performances of his was Demolition man. He was hilarious and sells action scenes in a way most Hollywood actors cant.
Can Mahershela Ali do a British accent? Because that's a good way to sperarte yourself out the gate. Set the movie in London and Make him brittish. That why Elba would been my first choice but he was already Heimdall and in latter movies played the character without the helmet and constant whited out eyes. So he was too recognizable for the GA not to notice hes suddenly blade.
[QUOTE=Midvillian1322;4472997]See people say that. It was one movie Blade 3 and they brought in a director snipes didnt want and tried to screw Snipes out of Money. He didnt wanna do the movie and maybe acted less then mature. But other then that one movie I've seen people say nothing but nice things about him. His career stalled out cause he went to prison and prior did a bunch of shitty movies overseas to raise funds before going to prison. Snipes it a show stealer imo. One of my favorite performances of his was Demolition man. He was hilarious and sells action scenes in a way most Hollywood actors cant.[/QUOTE]
Also last August he refuted everything (the onset reports and especially Patton Oswalt's account), saying the only thing that was true was the post-it notes. But even then he said that was out of convenience not having an attitude cause everything was so far away and they didn't have walkie-talkies for some reason. No one was there but I believe him cause where are these diva antics before and especially after Blade 3. I also find it funny people bring up his stint in prison but no one else's. Everyone unanimously agrees RDJ being in and out of jail and drug issues should remain in the past, but with Wes it'll be put on his tombstone at this rate.
[QUOTE]Can Mahershela Ali do a British accent? Because that's a good way to sperarte yourself out the gate. Set the movie in London and Make him brittish. That why Elba would been my first choice but he was already Heimdall and in latter movies played the character without the helmet and constant whited out eyes. So he was too recognizable for the GA not to notice hes suddenly blade.[/QUOTE]
I say keep him as close to how Snipes's Blade was. Besides America can have more than ONE black male hero (Falcon) can't it?