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[QUOTE=Darthfury78;5113470]If Marvel wants Spider-Woman to avoid being cancelled, they should have Jessica be a reoccurring guest appearance in the pages of Spider-Man. No crossover between they respective books in terms of the story going into each other's books. The best way to promote Spider-Woman is to place her in a respective story arc as they have done when she makes a guest spot in Captain Marvel. My argument is if Marvel can find time to put Jessica in the pages of Captain Marvel (on a reoccurring guest spot), why can't they do that with Spider-Man(non Spider-Verse related)? Jessica and Peter are friends. What better way to develop their friendship than with a story arc? The Black Cat shows up more often than any other character. It would be nice to see Tigra and Jessica Drew in some of Spider-Man's story arc? Tigra is a Police Officer, which could work in Spider-Man's favor(as well as Jessica Drew).
As for myself writing a Spider-Man story? I leave that to the Editors to find the talent who can pull off a great story between Peter Parker and Jessica Drew...[/QUOTE]
Well, only because they share the whole "Spider-Stuff", doesn't mean they have much in common. But it would be interesting to have Peter and Jessica together for some time, so we can understand how different they are as "spiders".
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[QUOTE=Seren;5144262][URL="https://thedirect.com/article/spider-woman-director-implies-marvel-studios-involvement-with-movie"]Olivia Wilde just name dropped Fiege[/URL], so if this movie is ineed Spider-Woman, it looks more and more like it'll be in the MCU.[/QUOTE]
The fact that Jessica has nothing to do with Peter Parker in terms of origin is a plus. But the problem I feel that no one wants to make Jessica a reoccurring ally in the pages of Spider-Man. Carol Danvers is not the only BFF that Jessica has. Peter has the potential of being a part of Jessica's world as well. What's sad is that in recent years, Marvel allowed Miles Morales, Silk, Ghost-Spider, and Spider-Girl to be directly tied to Spider-Man, which was overkill, in my opinion. As far as Spider-characters goes these should be the following:
[LIST=1][*]Peter Parker[*]Jessica Drew[*]Julia Carpenter[*]Kaine Parker[/LIST]
I strongly believe that Miles Morales and Ghost-Spider works best in their own universe respectively. Bringing them to Marvel-616 was a huge mistake. In addition, Silk's should not have had anything to do with Spider-Man's origin at all. The four Spiders that I listed should have a close bond with Peter because they are not similar in origin, which makes it easy to spot. Having Jessica as a reoccurring guest would allow for the differences and similarities to form between them....
It's quite sad to see that Jessica is not being used in the pages of Spider-Man as she is in the pages of Captain Marvel, whose also friends with Spider-Man. I can't see why Marvel won't allow Spider-Man to be a member of the Carol Corps as he would fit in perfectly. What's worse is the fact that he's not on any superhero teams. No X-Men or Avengers...
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[QUOTE=Darthfury78;5144454]The fact that Jessica has nothing to do with Peter Parker in terms of origin is a plus. But the problem I feel that no one wants to make Jessica a reoccurring ally in the pages of Spider-Man. Carol Danvers is not the only BFF that Jessica has. Peter has the potential of being a part of Jessica's world as well. What's sad is that in recent years, Marvel allowed Miles Morales, Silk, Ghost-Spider, and Spider-Girl to be directly tied to Spider-Man, which was overkill, in my opinion. As far as Spider-characters goes these should be the following:
[LIST=1][*]Peter Parker[*]Jessica Drew[*]Julia Carpenter[*]Kaine Parker[/LIST]
I strongly believe that Miles Morales and Ghost-Spider works best in their own universe respectively. Bringing them to Marvel-616 was a huge mistake. In addition, Silk's should not have had anything to do with Spider-Man's origin at all. The four Spiders that I listed should have a close bond with Peter because they are not similar in origin, which makes it easy to spot. Having Jessica as a reoccurring guest would allow for the differences and similarities to form between them....
It's quite sad to see that Jessica is not being used in the pages of Spider-Man as she is in the pages of Captain Marvel, whose also friends with Spider-Man. I can't see why Marvel won't allow Spider-Man to be a member of the Carol Corps as he would fit in perfectly. What's worse is the fact that he's not on any superhero teams. No X-Men or Avengers...[/QUOTE]
How is it overkill?! Spider-Man teaming up with other Spider-Characters isn't as common as you'd think it be.
Honestly, I think just don't like other Spider characters and are looking for ways to get rid of them.
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[QUOTE=PCN24454;5145011][B]How is it overkill?[/B]! Spider-Man teaming up with other Spider-Characters isn't as common as you'd think it be.
Honestly, I just don't like other Spider characters and are looking for ways to get rid of them.[/QUOTE]
Overkill meaning that Miles Morales(Ultimate Universe), Ghost-Spider(her universe), and Silk takes too much away from Spider-Man, Kaine Parker, Jessica Drew, and Julia Carpenter. I feel that for Marvel-616, there should only be 5 genuine Spiders who could work well as a diversified team:
[LIST=1][*]Peter Parker[*]Kaine Parker[*]Jessica Drew[*]Julia Carpenter[*]Black Widow[/LIST]
The five Spiders do not share the same origins. This would be a true Spider-Team, in my opinion as they can work alongside each other respectively. Miles Morales should have remained in the Ultimate Universe; Ghost-Spider should have stayed in her own universe; Silk's origin should never had the same origin as Peter. I am glad that Spider-Man 2099 is back in his own universe. If Marvel is keen to making Jessica Drew successful, she needs to appear in Spider-Man's world as often as she does in Captain Marvel. They could even have Jessica make a guest appearance in the pages of Black Cat and Daredevil respectively.
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[QUOTE=Darthfury78;5145197]Overkill meaning that Miles Morales(Ultimate Universe), Ghost-Spider(her universe), and Silk takes too much away from Spider-Man, Kaine Parker, Jessica Drew, and Julia Carpenter. I feel that for Marvel-616, there should only be 5 genuine Spiders who could work well as a diversified team:
[LIST=1][*]Peter Parker[*]Kaine Parker[*]Jessica Drew[*]Julia Carpenter[*]Black Widow[/LIST]
The five Spiders do not share the same origins. This would be a true Spider-Team, in my opinion as they can work alongside each other respectively. Miles Morales should have remained in the Ultimate Universe; Ghost-Spider should have stayed in her own universe; Silk's origin should never had the same origin as Peter. I am glad that Spider-Man 2099 is back in his own universe. If Marvel is keen to making Jessica Drew successful, she needs to appear in Spider-Man's world as often as she does in Captain Marvel. They could even have Jessica make a guest appearance in the pages of Black Cat and Daredevil respectively.[/QUOTE]
I'm impressed you say Miles and Gwen takes too much from Peter but not Kaine, the literal clone of Peter.
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[QUOTE=CrimsonEchidna;5146322]I'm impressed you say Miles and Gwen takes too much from Peter but not Kaine, the literal clone of Peter.[/QUOTE]
Miles and Gwen works best in their own respective universe. I mentioned Kaine because he was never bitten by a radio active spider, whereas Miles and Gwen were in their respective timeline. I feel that Ghost-Spider and Miles Morales in the Marvel-616 does take a lot away from Spider-Man, Kaine, Jessica Drew, and Julia Carpenter. Imagine if Miles was sent back to his universe to find that Ultimate Peter Parker was never Spider-Man to begin with? Thus Miles would be the only one to have been bitten by the spider. I think that Marvel should bring back the Ultimate Universe that would have Miles as Spider-Man, after the events of the 2015 Secret Wars. The new Ultimate Universe is a reset where Miles becomes Spider-Man and not Peter Parker.
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[QUOTE=Darthfury78;5147072]Miles and Gwen works best in their own respective universe. I mentioned Kaine because he was never bitten by a radio active spider, whereas Miles and Gwen were in their respective timeline. I feel that Ghost-Spider and Miles Morales in the Marvel-616 does take a lot away from Spider-Man, Kaine, Jessica Drew, and Julia Carpenter. Imagine if Miles was sent back to his universe to find that Ultimate Peter Parker was never Spider-Man to begin with? Thus Miles would be the only one to have been bitten by the spider. I think that Marvel should bring back the Ultimate Universe that would have Miles as Spider-Man, after the events of the 2015 Secret Wars. The new Ultimate Universe is a reset where Miles becomes Spider-Man and not Peter Parker.[/QUOTE]
Ultimate Universe is dead and not coming back. They're not going to start a whole new universe just for Miles.
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[QUOTE=PCN24454;5147655]Ultimate Universe is dead and not coming back. They're not going to start a whole new universe just for Miles.[/QUOTE]
Ultimate Universe is dead because Marvel killed the goose that laid the golden egg. Also, UU is not dead. The only reason why Miles was allowed to crossover to Marvel-616 was Bendis wanted to continue using Miles for his Spidermen series. Also, Spider-Man 2099 is back to his own universe. The same can be applied to Miles. Although, it's not likely to happen given his huge popularity, along with Ghost-Spider.
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[QUOTE=Darthfury78;5147922]Ultimate Universe is dead because Marvel killed the goose that laid the golden egg. Also, UU is not dead. [B]The only reason why Miles was allowed to crossover to Marvel-616 was Bendis wanted to continue using Miles for his Spidermen series.[/B] Also, Spider-Man 2099 is back to his own universe. The same can be applied to Miles. Although, it's not likely to happen given his huge popularity, along with Ghost-Spider.[/QUOTE]
And yet Bendis hasn't worked for Marvel for close to three years now. If they made such a decision to cater to Bendis and only Bendis' whim, they would've reversed it by now. Unless, of course, there were other people on board.
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[QUOTE=CrimsonEchidna;5149353]And yet Bendis hasn't worked for Marvel for close to three years now. If they made such a decision to cater to Bendis and only Bendis' whim, they would've reversed it by now. Unless, of course, there were other people on board.[/QUOTE]
Bendis does have a lot of friends(in high places) at Marvel. Personally, Miles works best in his own universe. The reason why he's part of Marvel-616 is because the writers want to continue using him. If that's the case, why can't Marvel have Jessica Drew make a reoccurring appearance in the world of Spider-Man, without Miles, Ghost-Spider, and Silk tagging along? For once I would love to see Marvel have Jessica and Peter working together as often as she does with Carol Danvers in her world.
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[QUOTE=CrimsonEchidna;5149353]And yet Bendis hasn't worked for Marvel for close to three years now. If they made such a decision to cater to Bendis and only Bendis' whim, they would've reversed it by now. Unless, of course, there were other people on board.[/QUOTE]
Bendis might come back later, rotating on and off between the companies is common with creatives.
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[QUOTE=Steel Inquisitor;5151639]Bendis might come back later, rotating on and off between the companies is common with creatives.[/QUOTE]
I just read that Miles Morales is stuck in Spider-Gwen's home universe.
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[QUOTE=Digifiend;5153563]Wasn't it already established that Jessica was in stasis, went to sleep as a child and woke up as an adult?
Though this revelation means... Jessica apparently doesn't know her own date of birth. She's over a decade older than she thought, but apparently her aging was slowed in stasis. [B]Also, the Miles mentioned in the preview is Miles Warren aka The Jackal, one of Peter's villains, so the retcon also places Jessica tighter into the Spider-Man mythos[/B].[/QUOTE]
I always felt that there was a deep connection between Jessica Drew and Dr. Miles Warren. I mentioned this speculation back in 2014 when the Spider-Woman series was written by Dennis Hopeless. I though that it would be a cool idea for some of Spider-Man's rogues to become a part of Jessica's rogue galleries as well, that includes Hobgoblin and Spidercide.
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[QUOTE=Seren;5168196]You did! I definitely snagged that one this afternoon. It's a store exclusive for anyone who wants it: [URL="https://bigtimecollectibles.com/"]Big Time Collectibles [/URL]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/6XDnAEI.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
What would be even better is a homage to this cover:
[IMG]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/db/1e/c1/db1ec1184654ec37218fc1cec8f88ca7.jpg[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=PCN24454;5145011]How is it overkill?! Spider-Man teaming up with other Spider-Characters isn't as common as you'd think it be.
Honestly, I think just don't like other Spider characters and are looking for ways to get rid of them.[/QUOTE]
I disagree 100%. Peter is now pinch hitting in the FF. Next why is he not in the Avengers? He was treated as a kid ( MCU) or comedy relief ( 616), and that is something that most fans ( myself included) did not like. As for Miles, he won Disney an Oscar ( not to mention makes them a lot of money) he is going nowhere. Finally I have said this before and I will say it again: Miles and Peter are both Spider-Man and they both operate in New York, but they are very different comics. How? 1: Target market. Demographics ( the average readership age is different). 2: Amazing is different because Peter is every bit as important to the comic as Spider-Man. That is not the case with Miles and most superhero comics). I can go on with other examples but there is no need. Last but certainly not least, Peter has a great supporting cast and an even better rogues gallery ( right up there with Batman) so there is no need to put him in the “Carol Corps” or anywhere else.