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Something more MAJESTIC to follow!
Link to previous threads:
[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?300-Doctor-Doom-Appreciation[/url]
[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?114537-Victor-Von-Doom-Doctor-Doom-appreciation-2018[/url]
[B]COLLECTED EDITIONS:[/B]
Private War of Doctor Doom
Overthrow of Doctor Doom
Emperor Doom
Essentials Super-Villain Team-Up
Doctor Strange & Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment
Doom (by Chuck Dixon)
Books of Doom
Doomwar
Doom 2099
Marvel Masterworks Astonishing Tales
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Marvel Double Shots #2 - "Masks" by Christopher Priest
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[B]DOCTOR DOOM READING LIST BY DOOMSCRIBE[/B]
[B]Fantastic Four - Annual 2 1964[/B] Stan Lee/ Jack Kirby “Origin of Doctor Doom”; & “The Final Victory of Dr. Doom!” (2 new stories) Origin story. Then rescued from space (issue 23) by Rama Tut; Dr Doom uses berry juice to turn FF against each other; but defeated by Reed at the Encephalo-gun. **
[B]Marvel Superheroes 20 May, 1969 [/B]Roy Thomas/ Larry Lieber “This Man . . . This Demon!” Diablo. Retells Doom’s origin and the story of Valeria, as Diablo seeks a partnership to rule using Doom’s time platform, currently under armed guard at his replica castle in the USA. **
[B]Fantastic Four 86 May, 1969 [/B]Stan Lee/ Jack Kirby “The Victims!” The FF & villagers defeat Omnipurpose robots; Doom destroys the village but Sue’s shield saves them. **
[B]Fantastic Four 87 June, 1969[/B] Stan Lee/ Jack Kirby “The Power and the Pride!” The FF storm the castle; Doom uses hypersound against Hauptmann to prevent destruction of valuable art. **
[B]Astonishing Tales 1 Aug., 1970[/B] Roy Thomas/ Wally Wood “Unto You is Born . . the Doomsman!” Prince Rudolfo. Doom creates an artificial being using cosmic power and his own brain patterns; Ramona who looks like Valeria, sets a trap. **
[B]Astonishing Tales 2 Oct., 1970[/B] Roy Thomas/ Wally Wood “Revolution!“ The Faceless One. Former Crown Prince Rudolfo seeks to usurp the throne of Latveria, aided by the mysterious Faceless, while the android Doomsman runs amok, toppling all in it’s path. **
[B]Astonishing Tales 3 Dec., 1970[/B] Larry Lieber/ Wally Wood “Doom Must Die!” Doom and Faceless struggle for control of Doomsman; an earthquake destroys Castle Doom & the hopes of the Rudolfo’s rebels. **
[B]Astonishing Tales 5 Apr., 1971[/B] Larry Lieber/ George Tuska “A Land Enslaved!” Red Skull. Doom battles Skull, is caught by surprise and trapped in an adamantine mummy, but he defeats them & uses shrinking ray on his enemies. **
[B]Astonishing Tales 8 Oct., 1971 [/B]Gerry Conway/ Gene Colan “Though Some Call it Magic!” Mephisto. Doom embarks on a dangerous battle with demons on a midsummer’s eve for the soul of his lost mother. The first telling of this tragic tale. *******
[B]Fantastic Four 116 Nov., 1971[/B] Archie Goodwin/ John Buscema. “The Alien, The Ally and Armageddon!” The Watcher, and the Stranger. Reed is brainwashed by the alien Over-Mind (an Eternal), and Sue asks Doom to aid the rest of the FF in a desperate battle. *******
[B]Sub-Mariner 47 (vol 1) Mar-72[/B] “Doomsmasque”
[B]Sub-Mariner 48 (vol 1) Apr-72[/B] “Twilight of the Hunted”
[B]Sub-Mariner 49 (vol 1) May-72[/B] “The Dream Stone” Sort of a campy story when read now, but overall an interesting take on these two titanic monarchs of the Marvel Universe told over three issues. An amnesiac Namor is re-acquainted with Doctor Doom, and taken on a hunt for the Cosmic Cube! With Modok. And contains a remarkably restrained, honorable, and self-reflective portrayal of Victor Von Doom. ****
[B]Marvel Team-Up 42 Feb., 1976[/B] Bill Mantlo/ Sal Buscema “Visions of Hate!” Spidey has time traveled to the time of the Salem Witch Trials. The Vision is drawn into the conflict with the Dark Rider. Doom joins them to defend the past. **
[B]Marvel Team-Up 43 Mar., 1976[/B] Bill Mantlo/ Sal Buscema “A Past Gone Mad!” The Dark Rider attempts to extract magical energies from Doom to increase his own power **
[B]Marvel Team-Up 44 Apr., 1976[/B] Bill Mantlo/ Sal Buscema “Death in the Year Before Yesterday!” Moondragon. Doom is almost lost, but finally uses his magical might with the aid of the others to defeat the Dark Rider. **
[B]Super-Villain Team-Up 10 Feb.,1977[/B] Bill Mantlo/ Bob Hall “The Sign of the Skull!” Captain American storms the Latverian embassy while Shroud and Rudolfo invade castle Doom, now controlled by Red Skull, who shoots down Doom & Cap’s plane. *****
[B]Super-Villain Team-Up 11 Apr., 1977[/B] Bill Mantlo/ Bob Hall “My Ally, My Enemy!” Red Skull plans to use the Hypno-Ray, Doom & Cap are shrunk, but make way to the castle where Namor and Shroud assist them against the Skull *****
[B]Super-Villain Team-Up 12 June, 1977[/B] Bill Mantlo/ Bob Hall “Death-Duel!” Doom and Red Skull battle on the Moon *******
[B]Fantastic Four 198 Sept., 1978[/B] Marv Wolfman Keith Pollard “Invasion!” ***
[B]Fantastic Four 199 Oct., 1978[/B] Marv Wolfman/ Keith Pollard “The Son of Doctor Doom!” ***
[B]Fantastic Four 200 Nov., 1978[/B] Marv Wolfman/ Keith Pollard “When Titans Clash!” ***
[B]Superman and Spider-man Marvel Treasury Edition #28 1981[/B] ***
[B]Iron Man 149 Aug., 1981 [/B]David Michelinie/ John Romita Jr “Doomquest” Iron Man and Dr Doom are sent to England of the past, to King Arthur’s court! ******
[B]Iron Man 150 Sept., 1981[/B] David Michelinie/ John Romita Jr “Knightmare” Doom seeks to ally himself with Morgan LeFey, as Iron Man sides with King Arthur. But they must work together in order to return to their proper time. ******
[B]Fantastic Four 236 Nov., 1981[/B] John Byrne/ John Byrne “Terror in a Tiny Town!” ******
[B]Fantastic Four 246 Sept., 1982[/B] John Byrne/ John Byrne “Too Many Dooms!” *******
[B]Fantastic Four 247 Oct., 1982[/B] John Byrne/ John Byrne “This Land is Mine!” *******
[B]Fantastic Four 258 Sept. 1983[/B] John Byrne/ John Byrne “Interlude” *******
[B]Fantastic Four 259 Oct. 1983[/B] John Byrne/ John Byrne “Choices” ****
[B]Secret Wars 1 – 12 (Limited Series) May 1984[/B]. Heroes and Villains are transported to Battleworld by the all powerful Beyonder, in order to battle to see who is the most powerful. Doom ostensibly leads the villains, all while plotting to take the power of Galactus, and then the Beyonder himself. ***
[B]Emperor Doom (Graphic Novel) Jun-87[/B] Dr Doom has harnessed the power of the Purple Man, and has declared himself Emperor of the Earth, instilling peace and prosperity throughout the world. But one Avenger must decide whether to take the power away from him, and risk returning the world to one of strife and conflict. Stars the Avengers. *******
[B]Triumph and Torment (Graphic Novel) 1989[/B] Roger Stern/Mike Mignola/Mark Badger. Doctor Doom and Doctor Strange battle Mephisto in order to free the soul of Doom’s mother from his infernal realm. Includes a synopsis origin story for each of the good doctors. ********
[B]Amazing Spider-Man 349 July, 1991[/B] “Man Of Steal!”
[B]Amazing Spider-Man 350 Aug, 1991[/B] “Doom Service!” Remarkable appearance for Doom’s ultimate restraint, and also for quite thoroughly kicking Peter’s butt. ****
[B]Doom 2099 1 – 40 January 1993[/B] Sometimes brilliant, ended too soon. Issues after #40 are best left unread. ******
[B]Heroes Reborn: DOOM [/B]one shot, January 2000 “Doom!” ******
[B]Heroes Reborn: Ashema[/B] one shot, January 2000 “Ashema” ****
[B]Heroes Reborn: Doomsday[/B] one shot, January 2000 “A World Untamed” ******
[B]DOOM 1 – 3 (Limited Series); October 2000[/B] *** (starts out strong) Remarkable also for the nekkid Doom vs the male African lion in to the death combat!
[B]Doom: The Emperor Returns 1 – 3 (Limited Series)[/B]; January 2002 ** (ends poorly)
[B]Books of Doom 1 – 6 (Limited Series); November 2005.[/B] An expanded re-telling of the rise of Victor Von Doom, and the conquest of Latveria. Great new insights, fabulous art, very well done and highly recommended. *******
[B]Stan Lee Meets Doctor Doom – one shot December 2006[/B]. *** Amusing and ties in to continuity in interesting ways.
[B]Iron Man: Legacy of Doom 1 – 4 (Limited Series) April 2008[/B]; Iron Man and Doctor Doom tangle again over fragments of Excalibur, magic and science do battle. ****
[B]Doctor Doom & the Masters of Evil 1 – 4 (Limited Series) January 2009[/B] **** A fun mini series aimed at all ages. Great individual moments downgraded by inconsistent art.
[B]Fall of Hulks: Alpha one shot, Feb-10[/B] “Meeting of the Minds” The Intelligentsia gather knowledge from the world, Doom keeps it. Fall of Hulks was difficult to follow unless you got all of the Hulk titles, but this one-shot was a particularly nice showing for Doom. **
[B]Spider-Man & the Secret Wars 1 – 4 (Limited Series) January 2010 [/B]Another all-ages title, recaps Secret Wars from Spider-Mans POV, with Dr Doom; again providing a new take on a classic story. ****
*** Non-Doomscribe addition(s) *****
[B]Secret Wars 1 - 9 May to Dec 2015[/B]
****** and some Links *******
[URL="http://community.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?2224-Would-Latveria-compete-in-eurovision"]Would Latveria compete in eurovision[/URL]
[URL="https://www.marvel.com/comics/discover/1236/dooms-greatest-battles?linkId=62149091"]Doom's Greatest Battles[/URL]
[URL="https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2010/12/he-wears-the-mask-just-to-cover-the-raw-flesh/68108/"]He Wears the Mask Just to Cover the Raw Flesh[/URL] Ta-NeHisi Coates connects Doom with hip-hop.
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[B][SIZE=4]Favorite Doom Quotes[/SIZE][/B]
For [B]no one[/B] knows what is [B]best[/B] for you ... except your mighty sovereign... [B]Doctor Doom[/B]! --FF 84
From DoomScribe: "Because ... I am Doom ... What Gods dare stand against me?"
[B][SIZE=4]Favorite Doom Videos[/SIZE][/B]
From CJStriker: [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd3esamc2Rs"]Darth Vader vs Doctor Doom[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/JackKirbyMuseum/status/1081355621147074562"]“Doom is a very tragic figure. Doom has got a lot of class; I like Doom. He’s got a lot of cool. But Doom has one fallacy; he thinks he’s ugly.” --JackKirby [/URL]
What else should we put on the first page, fellow Doom fans?
Happy New Year to Dr. Doom and all who follow him :cool:.
HAPPY NEW YEAR, everyone!
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[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;4104451]I wish I did have an answer to whether or not Amara will appear anytime soon. Nothing mentioned at all since Iron Man #600. And Kristoff is still MIA since before Secret Wars began as far as I know. I'd love to see both come back.....and Boris![/QUOTE]
Kristoff definitely needs to return. He is a favorite of mine who I feel has a ton of potential.
I'm confused now.... Did something happen to the new thread?
New year, new Doom thread. I guess this is CBR's new policy to avoid overloading the forums.
[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;4109747]I'm confused now.... Did something happen to the new thread?[/QUOTE]
I think it is the New CBR Policy, what happen is that a few months ago CBR was running beyond slowly and they figured one reason was that the very Big thread where slowing us down, so they made a new policy of every year closing the big threads so that no thread becomes to big anymore to slow down CBR again, at least that is how I am understanding it.
[QUOTE=Reviresco;4109215]What else should we put on the first page, fellow Doom fans?[/QUOTE]
2019 is Another Year for Doom and another chance to Revist why he rules so much!
I think what should be put on the 1st page is show off just Why Do is so Supreme Over Many and the Video Below always reminds me just how BOSS Doom Really is! :cool:
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[QUOTE=CJStriker;4109828]2019 is Another Year for Doom and another chance to Revist why he rules so much!
I think what should be put on the 1st page is show off just Why Do is so Supreme Over Many and the Video Below always reminds me just how BOSS Doom Really is! :cool:
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Great idea! I might have to do just links, though, as I don't think CBR will allow me to put alot of videos on one post. But hey, your post made it to the first page, so that works out.
Which Doom is your definitive Doom? Art? Writer? Storyline?
[QUOTE=Shadowcat;4110017]Which Doom is your definitive Doom? Art? Writer? Storyline?[/QUOTE]
IMO though canonically speaking, the character of Victor von Doom is an orphan but like success he has many "fathers" for different ages. Stan and Jack of course for the Silver Age, and then I would put John Byrne for the Bronze Age. Finally, Jonathan Hickman for the Modern Age. I'd also put in John Francis Moore and Warren Ellis in there as fathers for their combined work on the Doom of 2099.
Going by comic book eras again, for the Silver Age art, first off you have to say Jack Kirby for developing the design. Then I'd add John Buscema and Gene Colan for adding their touches too. For example, Gene Colan worked a lot with shadow so the cape became dominant under his pencils. John Buscema gave him a certain 'weight", like he was a walking engine of destruction. I think these 3 are the prevailing looks of that era.
John Byrne in the Bronze age is dominant because he was the the Fantastic Four for about 5 years. But his figure seems to have less bulk then the Silver Age Doom, until you look at the John Romita Jr/Bob Layton Doom that makes a memorable appearance in Iron Man #149-150.
In the Modern Age there are so many different artists its hard for me to just to pin down one. Certainly Esad Ribic is near the top with his work on Secret Wars and now as the cover artist for the current Fantastic Four volume that just got underway. I also love what Maleev did with Infamous Iron Man. Yeah, he is using Iron Man's style of armor but it has the Doom touches too with the darker colors.
These are my favorite stories, by eras (I'm sure I'll forget some!)
[FONT=Arial Black]Silver Age[/FONT]:
[B]FF annual #2[/B]: Doom's origin and the introduction of his Latverian homeland
[B]Astonishing Tales #8: [/B]the best story of his solo series is "Though Some Call it Magic". We learn a bit more about his mother's fate, which was only hinted at in the annual. This story is the inspiration for the GN Doctor Strange/Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment
[B]FF #57-60[/B]: There was some that thought that with the introduction of the cosmic side of Marvel with debut of Galactus and the Silver Surfer that Doom would become overshadowed in the MU. Stan and Jack proved them wrong when Doom wrested the Power Cosmic from the Silver Surfer.
[B]Bronze Era: [/B]
[B]John Byrne's Fantastic Four[/B]: I like just about all of Doom's appearances here but the one I like most is when he regains the throne from Prince Zorba in FF #247. Byrne adds a bit more of the heroic touch here but doesn't go all the way "white hat" when he ruthlessly kills Zorba to ensure his right to the throne. Another highligh: Byrne again shows a human side of Doom when he take on the guardianship of young Kristoff who is orphaned during a Doombot attack triggered by Prince Zorba.
[B]Secret Wars[/B] Having bought this series as it was published, you got the sense that Doom was in over his head at about the midpoint of the story and might not be a factor in the final issues. But Shooter did surprise me when Doom was the only one to come up with a plan to beat the Beyonder but at great personal risk. After losing a couple of limbs, the Beyonder had begun to study Doom by dissecting him yet manages to implement his plan to steal the Beyonder's power.
[B]Iron Man #149-150[/B] The combination Iron Man and Doom is a winning one, one that Bendis employed quite a bit in his recent Iron Man and then in the Infamous Iron Man solo series.
[B]Doctor Strange/Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment[/B] IMO the ultimate Doom story. Nuff Said.
Going to think about the next stage and post again tomorrow about the Modern Age.
Thanks for that rec list! I'm currently about to start reading triumph and torment and really want to read more Doom this year since he is one of my favorite characters!
I hope you come back and post your thoughts on "Triumph and Torment" and welcome to the rebooted thread!
Did you get the new edition that came out several years ago?
On another note, a big "Thank You" to [B]Reviresco[/B] for getting this new thread for 2019 updated. I was out of town and wasn't aware of the change. I imagine it's caught a lot of us by surprise!
I need to visit the Prince Namor thread when I catch up with my reading. And I know we both share the hope that one day Marvel will revisit the days of Super-Villain Team-Up and maybe Doom will make a guest shot in the Defenders relaunch.
[QUOTE=ImperiusWrecked;4110150]Thanks for that rec list! I'm currently about to start reading triumph and torment and really want to read more Doom this year since he is one of my favorite characters![/QUOTE]
All the work of those more worthy. Though I do need to ask Doomscribe for any updates -- looks like it's been since 2015.
[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;4110760]On another note, a big "Thank You" to [B]Reviresco[/B] for getting this new thread for 2019 updated. I was out of town and wasn't aware of the change. I imagine it's caught a lot of us by surprise!
I need to visit the Prince Namor thread when I catch up with my reading. And I know we both share the hope that one day Marvel will revisit the days of Super-Villain Team-Up and maybe Doom will make a guest shot in the Defenders relaunch.[/QUOTE]
I would love a Defenders relaunch, but it looks like it is going to be the Invaders this year. And we HOPE for a solo ongoing!
[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;4110738]I hope you come back and post your thoughts on "Triumph and Torment" and welcome to the rebooted thread!
Did you get the new edition that came out several years ago?[/QUOTE]
That's definitely one of my favorite Doom stories. I hope ImperiusWrecked got the new one, though. It has those two excellent Mignola Namor short stories.
[QUOTE=Reviresco;4111431]All the work of those more worthy. Though I do need to ask Doomscribe for any updates -- looks like it's been since 2015.
I would love a Defenders relaunch, but it looks like it is going to be the Invaders this year. And we HOPE for a solo ongoing![/QUOTE]
*doh* I think I must have gotten things confused. Is the Invaders a limited series or an ongoing? I bought the Namor one shot but I have to read that one.
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That's definitely one of my favorite Doom stories. I hope ImperiusWrecked got the new one, though. It has those two excellent Mignola Namor short stories.[/QUOTE]
I got the new edition too even though I have the original hard cover. I was lucky enough to have the HC signed by Mike Mignola when he was at the first C2E2 comicon in Chicago some years back. I've yet to see Roger Stern booked anywhere or I'd get him to sign too.
The new edition was a very nicely done volume and IIRC those Namor stories came from Marvel Fanfare. For some reason that title seldom showed up at my LCS and I have very, very few of those. I have the one that Barry Windsor Smith did with the Thing on the cover and a very cute story inside.
Marvel Knights just completely shat on Doom.
[spoil]He got stomped by the goddamn Kingpin.[/spoil]
This from Marvelocity:
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Not sure if this is a variant cover or an illustration from inside the book. I've not purchased the book and my LCS did not have an unwrapped book available to peruse. Alex Ross' art is great but don't know that $50 is worth one or possibly even two Doom paintings. Would prefer to buy a single print.
Hope everyone had a safe New Years and has found themselves able to migrate over to this new thread. Again, was quite confused at first. Huge thanks to Reviresco for firing up the new thread!!!
As to an update to the list, I'll work on it and see if there are stories worth adding.
Sorry that Marvel Knights screwed the pooch, but I wasn't expecting much since the story had little originality to begin with.
::: sigh :::: Must have been a Doombot.
Here's looking forward to the Galactus showdown.
[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;4110738]I hope you come back and post your thoughts on "Triumph and Torment" and welcome to the rebooted thread!
Did you get the new edition that came out several years ago?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Reviresco;4111431]All the work of those more worthy. Though I do need to ask Doomscribe for any updates -- looks like it's been since 2015.
That's definitely one of my favorite Doom stories. I hope ImperiusWrecked got the new one, though. It has those two excellent Mignola Namor short stories.[/QUOTE]
Oh wow, can I even say how much I love this comic? I saw a few panels on the internet a while ago and some people rec'd it to me and I was like I have to read this. It was so excellent, I really love the feel of the art and I was not expecting that twist, I knew Doom had freed his mother but not that he had set it up to happen that way. Have strange and doom meet up in other comics? I know they were in the Infamous Ironman comic recently. Can I please get more comics with Boris? I love that character.
I was very surprised to see the Namor stories, I screamed over them, I love the one with the seahorse so much!!! I wish we had more of these kinds of Namor comics. More fantasy and stuff about Neptune etc.
[QUOTE=Gambit, King of Thieves;4111667]Marvel Knights just completely shat on Doom.
[spoil]He got stomped by the goddamn Kingpin.[/spoil][/QUOTE]
How? Why? What part of that made any sense? He's not the Hulk so how is that possible?
[QUOTE=SuperiorIronman;4112070]How? Why? What part of that made any sense? He's not the Hulk so how is that possible?[/QUOTE]
My point.
Basically he only blasted Fisk's clothes off when he tried to kill him, Fisk was all "you're not that powerful," and then lifted and choked him with one hand and dropped him off a building where he fell to his death, because **** you that's why.
[QUOTE=Gambit, King of Thieves;4112122]My point.
Basically he only blasted Fisk's clothes off when he tried to kill him, Fisk was all "you're not that powerful," and then lifted and choked him with one hand and dropped him off a building where he fell to his death, because **** you that's why.[/QUOTE]
*Screaming*
The first time I heard of Dr. Doom was from this DOS game, along with a host of other Spider-Man and Cap villains I never heard about. He threatened to nuke the states so Cap and Pete infiltrated Castle Latveria to stop him.
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I never finished it. It was too hard.
[QUOTE=Gambit, King of Thieves;4111667]Marvel Knights just completely shat on Doom.
[spoil]He got stomped by the goddamn Kingpin.[/spoil][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DoomScribe;4111713]
Sorry that Marvel Knights screwed the pooch, but I wasn't expecting much since the story had little originality to begin with.
::: sigh :::: Must have been a Doombot.
Here's looking forward to the Galactus showdown.[/QUOTE]
Indeed! Doombot. ;)
[QUOTE=SuperiorIronman;4112070]How? Why? What part of that made any sense? He's not the Hulk so how is that possible?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gambit, King of Thieves;4112122]My point.
Basically he only blasted Fisk's clothes off when he tried to kill him, Fisk was all "you're not that powerful," and then lifted and choked him with one hand and dropped him off a building where he fell to his death, because **** you that's why.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SuperiorIronman;4112168][B][COLOR="#008000"]*Screaming*[/COLOR][/B][/QUOTE]
I think SuperiorIronman's reaction is the entirely appropriate one that I shall adopt. LOL!
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4112186]The first time I heard of Dr. Doom was from this DOS game, along with a host of other Spider-Man and Cap villains I never heard about. He threatened to nuke the states so Cap and Pete infiltrated Castle Latveria to stop him.
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I never finished it. It was too hard.[/QUOTE]
Waves at Restingvoice.
Wow. I've never seen that game before. Excellent find.
[QUOTE=DoomScribe;4111713]This from Marvelocity:
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Not sure if this is a variant cover or an illustration from inside the book. I've not purchased the book and my LCS did not have an unwrapped book available to peruse. Alex Ross' art is great but don't know that $50 is worth one or possibly even two Doom paintings. Would prefer to buy a single print.
Hope everyone had a safe New Years and has found themselves able to migrate over to this new thread. Again, was quite confused at first. Huge thanks to Reviresco for firing up the new thread!!!
[B]As to an update to the list, I'll work on it and see if there are stories worth adding.[/B][/QUOTE]
I saw that variant cover for Marvelocity, but I already got the regular version for $20 on Amazon. Barnes and Noble is selling it with a Spidey poster, so you might be able to look at it. Not sure if I would have sprung for the full price, just for a variant. Though, it is a great book if you like Alex Ross art. Ross does love the FF and I think Doom. I wonder if he's got a print, other than the Villains poster / print?
It was no problem, especially since I started with other people's posts. LOL! If I read the announcement correctly, they plan on doing this EVERY year, so at least next year, we'll know and can plan it ahead of time.
Thank you! That would be great. I'll add it when you get to it.
And again, if people have something they want added, just let me know.
[QUOTE=Gambit, King of Thieves;4111667]Marvel Knights just completely shat on Doom.
[spoil]He got stomped by the goddamn Kingpin.[/spoil][/QUOTE]
I thought Doombot after that scene . I wouldn't say [spoil] stomped but throwing Doom off a building shouldn't have that much of an effect. [/spoil] Plus, the Kingpin isn't that physically strong. Doom's tangled with the Thing and the Cosmic Hulk robot, both of which are much, much stronger. We'll see....maybe it will come up with a good ending.
[QUOTE=Reviresco;4112384]Waves at Restingvoice.
Wow. I've never seen that game before. Excellent find.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, maybe Doomscribe might know of it but I've not seen this. I have a sort of board game called Lands of Doom and I'm sure I bought it because Doomscribe listed it on his old "Den of Madness" site which recorded all things Doom. IMO the two best two games I've played are the first Marvel Ultimate Alliance and the Marvel Superhero Squad game based on the cartoon. It was a lot of fun....Ravin' Ray was a member there too. I had 2 different versions of Doom on that one. There was Future Foundation Doom in white and classic Doom and I had an Ultron "sidekick"
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[QUOTE=Reviresco;4112384]Waves at Restingvoice.
Wow. I've never seen that game before. Excellent find.[/QUOTE]
*Waves back*
I was like a fetus at that time. I don't even remember if my parents bought it for me or if it was inherited from my older cousin.
Now my first comic reading of Doom in was during Acts of Vengeance. Doom hired Titania to kill Spider-Man and implanted a chip that turned her fear of Spider-Man's cosmic power into anger. I didn't understand the plot at the time so this story plus that game made me think that Doom was a Spider-Man villain. I didn't even know about F4 at that time.
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I remember one thing that stood out for me was the traitor of the group mentioned that out of all the villains which include Magneto and Kingpin, Doom was the hardest to deceive.
[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;4112682]I thought Doombot after that scene . I wouldn't say [spoil] stomped but throwing Doom off a building shouldn't have that much of an effect. [/spoil] Plus, the Kingpin isn't that physically strong. Doom's tangled with the Thing and the Cosmic Hulk robot, both of which are much, much stronger. We'll see....maybe it will come up with a good ending.[/QUOTE]
Well, for Doom that's a stomping.
If we're talking Daredevil, no, but Doom has standards.
[QUOTE=ImperiusWrecked;4112042]Oh wow, can I even say how much I love this comic? I saw a few panels on the internet a while ago and some people rec'd it to me and I was like I have to read this. It was so excellent, I really love the feel of the art and I was not expecting that twist, I knew Doom had freed his mother but not that he had set it up to happen that way. Have strange and doom meet up in other comics? I know they were in the Infamous Ironman comic recently. Can I please get more comics with Boris? I love that character.
I was very surprised to see the Namor stories, I screamed over them, I love the one with the seahorse so much!!! I wish we had more of these kinds of Namor comics. More fantasy and stuff about Neptune etc.[/QUOTE]
Yes, me too. I liked that about the Silver Age Sub-Mariner series.
I'm glad to see that you enjoyed the book. There was so much goodness inside and well worth the price for the bonus material. I like how Roger Stern made a link between Stephen and Victor's origins, both of which included a trip to the Himalayas. I think that was the first time that it was shown that they passed through the same area at nearly the same time and encountered the Aged Genghis.... but each took a different path.
As for Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom, they really need to get together more often. If you picked up Secret Wars, Stephen was the Sheriff of Battleworld and helped keep order. He also had a guest appearance in Infamous Iron Man. IIRC he was in the last 3 issues. I'd like to see them meet up again some time. I like the current state of the relationship between them. Not really "bosom buddies" but colleagues in the mystic arts.
It always frustrates me when writers don't find a way to include what's left of Doom's "family" and to me that means Boris and Kristoff. The last time I recall Boris appearing was a brief appearance when Val first sneaked away from her parents and teleported to Latveria to make a proposal to Doom. Boris had a couple of lines in that issue. Kristoff had more appearances at least in both Hickman's FF and in New Avengers. Kristoff was present at dinner with his father, Doctor Strange and Reed just after the incursion happened over Latveria. The last time Kristoff has appeared toward the end of Hickman's in NA when Namor was a dinner guest.
[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;4112967]Yes, me too. I liked that about the Silver Age Sub-Mariner series.
I'm glad to see that you enjoyed the book. There was so much goodness inside and well worth the price for the bonus material. I like how Roger Stern made a link between Stephen and Victor's origins, both of which included a trip to the Himalayas. I think that was the first time that it was shown that they passed through the same area at nearly the same time and encountered the Aged Genghis.... but each took a different path.
As for Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom, they really need to get together more often. If you picked up Secret Wars, Stephen was the Sheriff of Battleworld and helped keep order. He also had a guest appearance in Infamous Iron Man. IIRC he was in the last 3 issues. I'd like to see them meet up again some time. I like the current state of the relationship between them. Not really "bosom buddies" but colleagues in the mystic arts.
It always frustrates me when writers don't find a way to include what's left of Doom's "family" and to me that means Boris and Kristoff. The last time I recall Boris appearing was a brief appearance when Val first sneaked away from her parents and teleported to Latveria to make a proposal to Doom. Boris had a couple of lines in that issue. Kristoff had more appearances at least in both Hickman's FF and in New Avengers. Kristoff was present at dinner with his father, Doctor Strange and Reed just after the incursion happened over Latveria. The last time Kristoff has appeared toward the end of Hickman's in NA when Namor was a dinner guest.[/QUOTE]
I love Kristoff, and it's like Marvel totally forgot about him? I did read those issues, and doom's dinner with Namor was the best, they really need another team up. I do miss it when Marvel would lean into the fantasy side of Namor's story, it feels lately all the stories are centered around the surface world and of course destroying Atlantis.
I really feel like Kristoff should have been in Latveria for Doom's return after the Infamous Ironman arc was over.
Also for that last issue of Marvel Knights, I really think that is a Doom-bot or something, there is no way Victor would be beaten by Kingpin unless he was one (doom-bot) or if he was faking it for a plan.
[QUOTE=ImperiusWrecked;4113279]I love Kristoff, and it's like Marvel totally forgot about him? I did read those issues, and doom's dinner with Namor was the best, they really need another team up. I do miss it when Marvel would lean into the fantasy side of Namor's story, it feels lately all the stories are centered around the surface world and of course destroying Atlantis.
I really feel like Kristoff should have been in Latveria for Doom's return after the Infamous Ironman arc was over.
Also for that last issue of Marvel Knights, I really think that is a Doom-bot or something, there is no way Victor would be beaten by Kingpin unless he was one (doom-bot) or if he was faking it for a plan.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, definitely too easy.
More somewhat distressing news Runaways #17 spoiler [spoil] Doombot really got trashed but it doesn't look fatal. One of his arms was torn off. The story indicates he was going to get help. Definitely a gap between the end of last issue and this one. We only see him after the fact on the opening page. [/spoil]
I hope to see more of Doom interacting with Namor, Tony or Doctor Strange. It's pretty much obligatory that he appear in the Fantastic Four but many times its' his appearances outside the FF that turn out to be more interesting. But there is a change in how Reed and Victor interact, at least from what we saw of their last meeting in Marvel Two In One. It looks like Victor is going to continue their rivalry but this time in trying to outshine Reed in heroics.
Dan Slott seems to bring up neglected characters though so I'm hoping to see Boris or Kristoff there. How can he restore his home in Latveria without them being there in residence also? I really want to see Doom get his face restored again, if only for Kristoff and Val to see him.
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4112186]The first time I heard of Dr. Doom was from this DOS game, along with a host of other Spider-Man and Cap villains I never heard about. He threatened to nuke the states so Cap and Pete infiltrated Castle Latveria to stop him.
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I never finished it. It was too hard.[/QUOTE]
I was never able to play the game. It's on very old school floppy discs (1989 - C64), and I tried to get my tech guy to translate into something I could use on a windows computer, but was never able to get it done.
The game does come with a comic book that is open-ended: it sets up the scene and starts the heroes on their quests, but ends just as they reach Latveria. The 16 page comic book (if you can call it that) wasn't bad actually. I've attached a couple of scans. Sadly the comic book was packed in the game rolled up, so the value of the book is really just its rarity.
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Here's what the game looks like. You can find copies online or on ebay.
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The TSR Game Lands of Dr Doom - a role playing game, came out in 1992. I never played but it had loads of original material in the accompanying books, which are well worth it if you can find it.
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Mine had the handbook listing all the enemies stats in it and the disk but didn't have the comic prologue.
Probably bootlegged... or my older cousin kept the comic if it actually came from my older cousin.
The comic continues in the game, where you click on one of the panels depicting an enemy attack to begin fighting fighting said enemy.
Control's pretty stiff. When you press the key to jump, the character jumped in a preset distance. There's no adjusting where you fall like in 16 bit games and beyond.
Then there's an instant kill robot bomb random encounter that jumps from one end of the room to the other where your character's standing so you have to react and jump at the right time. It was not pleasant.