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DC January 2020 Solicits
[url]https://www.cbr.com/dc-comics-solicitations-january-2020/[/url]
I didn't see a thread for this so I decided to make one. Anyway, a few thoughts:
[LIST][*]I will say that DC does seem to be handling at least [B]one[/B] team's relaunch well. Tom Taylor's Suicide Squad looks very interesting to me so far.
[*]I'm still liking Bendis's Superman. He's not afraid to take chances with the mythology and I really like that. It'll be interesting to see the fallout of revealing his identity...again. But hopefully this time its handled much better than last time.
[*]I'm gonna give Tynion's Batman a try but I HATE it when they try to make Deathstroke into a Batman villain. He's a Titans villain. Here's an idea, DC: INVEST in the Titans franchise instead of relegating them to being second-stringers. Take notes from Hickman's X-Men relaunch.[/LIST]
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I'm sure the only reason that Superman is revealing his secret identity is because a Crisis is coming, and the aftermath will probably reset that.
Also, Snyder is leaving JL. I hope Tynion takes over. His issues have been the best ones, IMO.
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-Definitely a fan of a Young Justice, Wonder Twins, and Naomi crossover
-Suicide Squad looks good...and is that Lagoon Boy?
-Superman revealing his identity and from the looks of things not ruining his life could be a neat story
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Superman's going in the complete opposite direction the character should go in. Just looks awful, and that's not even bringing in the eventual 5G nonsense. And I don't think the Crisis will reset it. If anything I think the Crisis will only double-down on it since that's when Jon is laughably becoming Superman. The outed secret identity will still probably be in play with the only difference being that Superman is retired or something. This whole think stinks to be only to accommodate making Superman a legacy franchise along with everything else in the verse.
This is it for me outside of Black Label and other outside projects.
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[QUOTE] I'm sure the only reason that Superman is revealing his secret identity is because a Crisis is coming, and the aftermath will probably reset that. [/QUOTE]Was there some fairly big other event in a character's life that happened right before the Flashpoint reboot? Whatever it was, it was something I read about, not something I read myself. An engagement or wedding, maybe?
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Oh Snap, I didn't expect Snyder to be off Justice League.
I mean with all of this Year of Villain stuff I would have thought there would have been a longer wind down before the status quo changes again.
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No [I]Batman and Catwoman [/I]#1? I thought it was supposed to launch in January......
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I’m considering dropping Batman and the outsiders. But here’s a thought; if supes is revealing who he is, and Jon takes over for him, won’t his enemies know who he is?
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*I thought the remaining biweekly books (Flash, WW, Batman, Detective, JL) were going back to monthly in January?
*Looks like the Dollar Comics and Facsimile Edition lines are just vehicles to reprint even more Batman stuff. Sigh...
*Man of Steel by Byrne ominbus?! :D
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The cover to Terrifics looks like DC's trying to ween people off it so they can cancel it.
Meanwhile, Vertigo and Young Animal are now officially dead.
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What do you mean? Far Sector is a Young Animal book.
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God, DC seems at a bad place.
Wasn't Snyder planning a 50 issue run on JL? Why is he leaving already?
JLD's solicitation makes me really worried about that book.
BOP being turned into a one-shot is disastrous.
And Doom Patrol is gone yet again.
Honestly, only Taylor's Suicide Squad makes me excited.
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I would guess that the entire JL line will be relaunching. So you'd be right to worry about Dark. Should've held back on that logo change, DC!
[QUOTE=SJNeal;4637089]*I thought the remaining biweekly books (Flash, WW, Batman, Detective, JL) were going back to monthly in January?
*Looks like the Dollar Comics and Facsimile Edition lines are just vehicles to reprint even more Batman stuff. Sigh...
*Man of Steel by Byrne ominbus?! :D[/QUOTE]Flash and Batman are the only ones of those with two regular issues solicited. The second Tec is an annual, JL and WW both only have one issue listed.
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Still looking forward to Teen Titans especially after this week's issue. Looking forward to reading Birds of Prey, and maybe checking out Suicide Squad. As of right now Teen Titans is still the only book I have been buying monthly. So we will see.
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I wonder if there's a reason Green Arrow doesn't seem happy about Superman's reveal on Hitch's cover. (Aqauman doesn't look happy either, but that could just be him)
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[QUOTE=Factor;4637168]God, DC seems at a bad place.
Wasn't Snyder planning a 50 issue run on JL? Why is he leaving already?
JLD's solicitation makes me really worried about that book.
BOP being turned into a one-shot is disastrous.
And Doom Patrol is gone yet again.
Honestly, only Taylor's Suicide Squad makes me excited.[/QUOTE]
I agree. One can't help but think that DC just needs new management at this point.
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[QUOTE=shadow6743;4637209]Still looking forward to Teen Titans especially after this week's issue. Looking forward to reading Birds of Prey, and maybe checking out Suicide Squad. As of right now Teen Titans is still the only book I have been buying monthly. So we will see.[/QUOTE]
I'm starting to think that the Other is actually Dick/Ric somehow.
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[QUOTE=king81992;4637254]I'm starting to think that the Other is actually Dick/Ric somehow.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking the Other was Suren or a Damian clone. Dick is to busy with Talons in his book.
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[QUOTE=Digifiend;4637179]I would guess that the entire JL line will be relaunching. So you'd be right to worry about Dark. Should've held back on that logo change, DC!
Flash and Batman are the only ones of those with two regular issues solicited. The second Tec is an annual, JL and WW both only have one issue listed.[/QUOTE]
You are correct; I spoke too soon.
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Thoughts:
- So what's going on with BoP? They couldn't get Azzarello to stick around for a full series? They just wanted to have some Black Label material out there in-time for the movie? The Conner/Palmiotti book seemed like a safer bet?
- "Batman has a new plan for Gotham City" is it based around his plan at the end of Tynion's 'Tec? Although it will probably not go anywhere beyond Tynion's run.
- Jim Gordon as part of the Batman Who Laughs' Secret Six still seems a bit much...granted, a lot about the Batman Who Laughs seems like a bit much.
- I wonder if Aquababy will be used as a reason for Arthur to retire as Aquaman for 5G. Also, yay! Shirtless and no beard Aquaman :D.
- Surprised it took them this long to bring back Babs' mom...who is also named Barbara.
- "The Secret Six may have met their match when they faced the combined might of Superman and Batman" no offense to the World's Finest, but really? I mean, aside from Gordon, the Secret Six is pretty overpowered.
- I kinda hate to some degree that Alfred dying will be the biggest consequence of King's run. Although I wonder if this is just to take him out since 5G will retcon everything and he'll probably die a different death...
- Are they really going to take Wally's kids away from him [I]again[/I] :(?
- Surprised Golden Glider is teaming-up with Barry to overthrow her brother. I thought she was even more of a villain then he was. But it doesn't sound like Barry is quite so successful in toppling The Rogues going by the next solicit.
- The Freedom Fighers got a 12-issue series. I never would've thought in this day and age.
- So the Gotham City Monsters fight their classic incarnations? Should be fun.
- Is it too much to hope for Batwoman to bust Harley and Ivy rather then aid them? Probably. But, uh...great job on queer representation?
- Atom and Shayera is an interesting dynamic. I don't recall them ever meeting in Post-Crisis.
- Holy crud, the 2002 cartoon He-Man!? I loved that version :D!
- Snyder is off Justice League? That's surprising...maybe he just needs time to construct the next Crisis event story.
- So, does Wonder Woman turn herself into the furies on that JLD cover?
- Cyborg fans are probably going to hate that redesign.
- I'm not really looking forward to a Bendis-written Damian with the Legion. And "Planet Gotham?" Seriously?
- "Talon made a mess of his current life, and now Ric has to start putting it all back together." But...but nobody care's about Ric's life.
- The Question actually works surprisingly well as a Western hero.
- Time for some romantic angst with Jason and Artemis!
- So I take it the Squad on the cover of issue #1 all gets killed off except for Harley and Deadshot and the members that Taylor has been showing off are the actual members.
- Wonder Woman needs to save Supergirl? Kind of a bit of failure on your part, Kal...
- So The Other is connected to Damian? I guess that narrows it down, but not by much.
[QUOTE=Zeeguy91;4636930][*]I'm gonna give Tynion's Batman a try but I HATE it when they try to make Deathstroke into a Batman villain. He's a Titans villain. Here's an idea, DC: INVEST in the Titans franchise instead of relegating them to being second-stringers. Take notes from Hickman's X-Men relaunch.[/LIST][/QUOTE]
At this point Deathstroke is as much his own IP as he is connected to the Titans.
But I doubt Tynion is making Cheshire a Batman villain so Slade's presence probably just serves whatever stories Tynion is telling
[QUOTE=j9ac9k;4637218]I wonder if there's a reason Green Arrow doesn't seem happy about Superman's reveal on Hitch's cover. (Aqauman doesn't look happy either, but that could just be him)[/QUOTE]
I'm surprised people seem as happy about that on the cover as is.
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[QUOTE=Frontier;4637363]
- The Question actually works surprisingly well as a Western hero.[/QUOTE]
We've had the classic "Man with No Name," - only natural to have a "Man with No Face."
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[QUOTE] - So what's going on with BoP? They couldn't get Azzarello to stick around for a full series? They just wanted to have some Black Label material out there in-time for the movie? The Conner/Palmiotti book seemed like a safer bet?[/QUOTE]Glad to see it a one-shot, myself.
[quote] - Jim Gordon as part of the Batman Who Laughs' Secret Six still seems a bit much...granted, a lot about the Batman Who Laughs seems like a bit much.[/quote]Yep.
[quote] - I wonder if Aquababy will be used as a reason for Arthur to retire as Aquaman for 5G.[/quote]Maybe. Not sure how that ties in with how worried Mera was about them having time for parenting.
[quote] - Are they really going to take Wally's kids away from him again ? [/quote]I'd like the answer to be "no." But with DC....all bets are off. I think I'd be almost more annoyed if the answer was that Wally make the the noble, self-sacrificing gesture for the fate of the universe or whatever and still get them back. I'm not big on that instead of fighting back. Still annoyed they made Barry setting the past [i]right[/i] a destructive thing. Though we have Manhattan in that now, too, and some retconned-in conflicting info.
[quote] - Surprised it took them this long to bring back Babs' mom...who is also named Barbara.[/quote]Not really happy with how they've handled Barbara's mom (or rather, Jim's ex) in the past. And kinda wish they'd rename her Eileen.
[quote] - Holy crud, the 2002 cartoon He-Man!? I loved that version ![/quote]Me too. But I absolutely hate the (much older, but fortunately never made to the screen) idea of Skeletor as Randor's brother.
[quote] - Cyborg fans are probably going to hate that redesign. [/quote]As well they should.
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[QUOTE=Factor;4637168]
BOP being turned into a one-shot is disastrous.
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I was baffled about the plans for Birds of Prey until now. It was going to be an ongoing monthly DC title from Brian Azzarello and Emanuella Lupacchino, with #1 solicited for October 30, but then that effort fell into a black hole until now. Meanwhile, there was an unrelated announcement of a 4-issue Black Label "Harley Quinn and the Birds of Prey" series by Jimmy Palmiotti and Amanda Conner, launching in February.
Now I see what they did. It looks like they took the first arc of the Azzarello/Lupacchino book, aged it up a bit - some black & white pages posted by Lupacchino already looked pretty violent, so I guess they are now adding some salty language - and added an ending (or, will be "continuing" it in the next book). The one-shot's 96 page count is just shy of the typical arc's page count. (Isn't that a lot of pages? Has any Black Label book been that thick?)
Too bad. I was looking forward to regular interior art from Lupacchino.
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Nothing in these solicitations interests me.
The Supergirl book is such a mess. It has been a slave to books and events outside of itself since it came back, which is just awful.
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Maybe Red Hood: Outlaw 42, although the last 2 issues bored me to death. Might give Batman a look now that King is off the book.
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[QUOTE=Tzigone;4637393]
Not really happy with how they've handled Barbara's mom (or rather, Jim's ex) in the past. And kinda wish they'd rename her Eileen.[/QUOTE]
I still can't quite figure out whether Barbara and her mom having the same name is good kind of funny or bad kind of funny :p.
[QUOTE]Me too. But I absolutely hate the (much older, but fortunately never made to the screen) idea of Skeletor as Randor's brother.[/QUOTE]
It didn't bother me much, but that might have been because they never made it too big a deal on the cartoon.
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[QUOTE]I still can't quite figure out whether Barbara and her mom having the same name is good kind of funny or bad kind of funny . [/QUOTE]It wouldn't be so bad if they hadn't introduced Jim Jr. and hadn't made Barbara adopted. If they are both bio kids, then their parents have no originality in names. But I guess if a junior is good for a boy, it's good for a girl. Fair's fair. The niece and wife same name is just a coincidence and happens all the time in the real world, but there was no reason for it. I can't recall - did it come about because Earth 2 Mrs. Gordon was named Barbara (after daughter Barbara was introduced in Earth-One?).
[quote]It didn't bother me much, but that might have been because they never made it too big a deal on the cartoon. [/quote]I thought it never happened in the cartoon? I thought it was planned for Filmation version, but show ended before then. I know it wasn't in 2002 version. And in that particular reality (not one with an Anti-He-Man), he'd never have been a prince anyway, since Randor only became king after Keldor became Skeletor, and Miro was only a soldier, not a king. I know it made it into several comics, though.
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Oh so [I]now[/I] Superman revealing his identity is a good thing instead of a disaster
At least there's something to look forward to in Aquababy
But... Babs doesn't have a bad relationship with her mother. They settled that.
The Batman team need to start dealing with repercussion of their writing themselves. Don't throw it to Tomasi just because he wrote that one awesome Damian Requiem issue.
Well at least Wally wasn't the only one thrown into prison for having volatile powers
Ooh. Batlesbians incorporated
Possessed/Berserk/Witch Wondy is still going? I feel like that's been going for a long time
Stories set in Legion's gonna effect DCU moving forward how? Damian's gonna carry future virus when he went back home?
Lol, William Cobb's defeated by Ric Grayson. He started so intimidating in The Court of Owls and getting more and more shit with every appearance.
Wait I thought BOP said Harley's free from the Squad?
Snyder's off the League... probably prepping for Crisis of Infinite Timeline.
I'm sorry I lost count on which Green Lantern is the one in Far Sector. Is that different from Teen Lantern
Just Oracle for me and maybe David Mazouz: Speed Racer.
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FLASH FORWARD #5
written by SCOTT LOBDELL
art by BRETT BOOTH and NORM RAPMUND
cover by EVAN “DOC” SHANER
variant cover by INHYUK LEE
Wally West has gotten to the heart of his mission to save the Multiverse...and the heart he found was his own. When it’s discovered that the dark multiversal world that’s threatening all of existence is the world in which Wally’s children are alive, our hero must overcome his greatest fears, regrets, and anger to do what’s right. But what’s right is the hardest thing anyone would ever imagine doing...letting go.
they really want to ruin wally :mad:
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Yikes, all of this looks terrible, especially without Bat/Cat.
Bring on the reboot. It’s desperately needed.
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Oh Shazam is back. That was unexpected. lol
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I wonder if there is something going on with Bat/Cat and if it will turn into a Black Label book with a truncated issue so it can be done before the next mega event?
There was a lot of hub-bub of King writing a hundred issues I don't know why it his final arc cannot be 3 over sized issues.
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It'll be interesting to see next month's Detective Comics solicits. If it resumes with two regular issues (one issue plus an annual this month), then it's number will exceed Action Comics for the first time since the 1970's. That would kind of seem right, since Detective debuted before Action.
I actually agree with the change DC made in the classic Jonah Hex collection. The new solicit only collects his appearances before Jonah Hex #1, rather than those appearances plus some of his ongoing series. Looking forward to that one.
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[QUOTE=Tzigone;4637644]It wouldn't be so bad if they hadn't introduced Jim Jr. and hadn't made Barbara adopted. If they are both bio kids, then their parents have no originality in names. But I guess if a junior is good for a boy, it's good for a girl. Fair's fair. The niece and wife same name is just a coincidence and happens all the time in the real world, but there was no reason for it. I can't recall - did it come about because Earth 2 Mrs. Gordon was named Barbara (after daughter Barbara was introduced in Earth-One?).[/QUOTE]
I forgot about Jim Jr.
I guess the Gordon's just don't really make much of an effort on names :p.
[QUOTE]I thought it never happened in the cartoon? I thought it was planned for Filmation version, but show ended before then. I know it wasn't in 2002 version. And in that particular reality (not one with an Anti-He-Man), he'd never have been a prince anyway, since Randor only became king after Keldor became Skeletor, and Miro was only a soldier, not a king. I know it made it into several comics, though.[/QUOTE]
I thought it was hinted at, if not explicitly stated, in the 2002 cartoon.
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What is it with Bendis and having characters lose or ditch their secret identities? I'm sure the details will be different, but geez this is reminiscent of his Daredevil run. That, on top of the fact we literally just had this whole Superman-loses-his-id conceit a few years ago prior to Rebirth. They're recycling ideas at much too rapid a rate, and it's not something that makes me want to read the books. Perhaps it really IS time for Didio to move on. His tenure is beginning to feel like a gamer who constantly hits the reset button because he isn't getting the playthrough he wants on the first level.
The Man of Steel by Byrne omnibus is long overdue though - and the Spectre Omni and Weird Westerns HC are definitely solicits I'm interested in.
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[QUOTE=Johnny;4637900]Oh Shazam is back. That was unexpected. lol[/QUOTE]
So who’s the new marvel? I’m intrigued, but with the overall lateness of the book, I may just trade wait on it.
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[URL="https://mobile.twitter.com/Ssnyder1835/status/1185323267982319620?p=v"]https://mobile.twitter.com/Ssnyder1835/status/1185323267982319620?p=v[/URL]
It looks like Snyder's planning a different form of chapter for his third act. Prepare for crisis 2020 "Krypton" .
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[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4637791]Oh so [I]now[/I] Superman revealing his identity is a good thing instead of a disaster
At least there's something to look forward to in Aquababy
But... Babs doesn't have a bad relationship with her mother. They settled that.
The Batman team need to start dealing with repercussion of their writing themselves. Don't throw it to Tomasi just because he wrote that one awesome Damian Requiem issue.
Well at least Wally wasn't the only one thrown into prison for having volatile powers
Ooh. Batlesbians incorporated
Possessed/Berserk/Witch Wondy is still going? I feel like that's been going for a long time
Stories set in Legion's gonna effect DCU moving forward how? Damian's gonna carry future virus when he went back home?
Lol, William Cobb's defeated by Ric Grayson. He started so intimidating in The Court of Owls and getting more and more shit with every appearance.
Wait I thought BOP said Harley's free from the Squad?
Snyder's off the League... probably prepping for Crisis of Infinite Timeline.
I'm sorry I lost count on which Green Lantern is the one in Far Sector. Is that different from Teen Lantern
Just Oracle for me and maybe David Mazouz: Speed Racer.[/QUOTE]
Personally glad that Tomasi is handling the aftermath of Alfred's death. Don't trust King will do it Justice.
Bendis can't write Damian I wish he'd just stopping using him. Just focus on the Robin he writes well. Tim
can't believe Dc is dragging Ric out so long.
Tec Annual with Tomasi
Teen Titans by Glass
Aquaman for Aquababy
Tec
Batcat wedding issue Earth 2
Jl
Jlo
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[QUOTE=Digifiend;4637167]What do you mean? Far Sector is a Young Animal book.[/QUOTE]
Black Label now.