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I had an idea for my new Avatar and Beetle was kind enough to follow through. And it is ASTONISHING. ;)
[QUOTE=Beetle;3966286]I gave it a shot, not the greatest but it was fun to make.
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And here is the avatar
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Random question.... but did Chris Claremont ever state why he didn't really use Iceman in his run or his thoughts on the character?
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Not counting the Return of Wolverine oneshot, Iceman #1 was the 2nd best selling X-book of September at ~39k. I wouldnt be surprised if it gets a third volume
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[QUOTE=Havok83;3969110]Not counting the Return of Wolverine oneshot, Iceman #1 was the 2nd best selling X-book of September at ~39k. I wouldnt be surprised if it gets a third volume[/QUOTE]
Maybe. I believe I read somewhere (please don't ask where, as I don't remember) that Marvel shipped extra copies of Iceman #1 , the same way that the first issue of Rosenberg's Astonishing X-Men was. We'll probably have to wait for the second issue to see what sales are going to be really like for the series.
Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if Iceman got a third volume based on trade paperback copies sold, the same way that this latest Iceman mini was allowed to happen.
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[QUOTE=NewMutant;3967716]Random question.... but did Chris Claremont ever state why he didn't really use Iceman in his run or his thoughts on the character?[/QUOTE]
My guess is he hated him or was bored with him. Which angers me to no end, but it's ice-water under the bridge, I guess.
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[QUOTE=NewMutant;3967716]Random question.... but did Chris Claremont ever state why he didn't really use Iceman in his run or his thoughts on the character?[/QUOTE]
Someone will need to ask him that directly. Iceman got snatched up for Champions pretty quickly after he left in UXM #94 by the time he was free again I guess he saw no need for him since the crew at the time was pretty popular. Claremont didn't even use Angel long. Claremont did give him some guest-star roles.
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[QUOTE=Triniking1234;3969360]Someone will need to ask him that directly. Iceman got snatched up for Champions pretty quickly after he left in UXM #94 by the time he was free again I guess he saw no need for him since the crew at the time was pretty popular. Claremont didn't even use Angel long. Claremont did give him some guest-star roles.[/QUOTE]
Beast was an Avenger yet he used him often and as you mentioned, he added Angel (who was a Champion) with Bobby. Claremont didn’t use Bobby at all when he returned years later for Revolution. I always got the impression he didn’t like him
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Claremont used Iceman in that Arcade story, he even showed us him in college.
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There’s also that Classic X-Men issue where Bobby is just the worst. I wouldn’t be surprised if Claremont never liked the character.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;3969421]Claremont used Iceman in that Arcade story, he even showed us him in college.
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Crossovers aside, that was the only time, not counting the editorial mandated 90s relaunch. Did he even have him as an X-men in Forever?
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[QUOTE=Havok83;3969392]Beast was an Avenger yet he used him often and as you mentioned, he added Angel (who was a Champion) with Bobby. [B]Claremont didn’t use Bobby at all when he returned years later for Revolution[/B]. I always got the impression he didn’t like him[/QUOTE]
Ha Ha. I ain't gonna lie that plus the fact that Bobby was portrayed as very hostile to the All-New team (I'm too lazy to steal the scan from supermegamonkey right now) does make it look like he wasn't a fan of Bobby.
[QUOTE=Havok83;3969444]Crossovers aside, that was the only time, not counting the editorial mandated 90s relaunch. Did he even have him as an X-men in Forever?[/QUOTE]
Nah. Although a lot of the X-Men who were supposed to be full-timers in Forever (like Betsy) don't show up.
The only other time Claremont writes him was the brief stint when he had to carry X-Factor but I think those issues were Cyclops-centric (when baby Nathan leaves).
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[QUOTE=Vegan Daddy;3969443]There’s also that Classic X-Men issue where Bobby is just the worst. I wouldn’t be surprised if Claremont never liked the character.
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To be fair, original run Bobby was pretty crappy.
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Hadn't Claremont said somewhere that he had found Bobby to be boring or was that someone else?
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[QUOTE=Havok83;3969444]Crossovers aside, that was the only time, not counting the editorial mandated 90s relaunch. Did he even have him as an X-men in Forever?[/QUOTE]
I don't think he did use Bobby in Forever, but he did use him int The End.
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[QUOTE=yogaflame;3969465]I don't think he did use Bobby in Forever, but he did use him int The End.
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Thanks. Its okay if CC didnt care for him as all writers have their favorites and non-favorites. His lack of interest in Bobby compared to the other O5 always stood out to me. I guess it was for the best that his writing for Bobby was very limited so he couldnt do much damage