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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4622320]Really?? I mean he:
-Created a Global EMP accords the Planet.
-Used the Magnetic Forces of the Earth to draw out the PF
-He was able to Bring Kitty Back to Earth by using his power and sensing the EM of the Universe
-Used the Earths EMP to increase his power and body. 2x
Storm is good in the use of manipulating the EM spectrum, but for all intents and purpose Magneto is just as much an Omega Lvl Mutant as Storm.[/QUOTE]
yea I was under the impression all his global level feats required him being amped or tier to using machinery. if that isnt the case then I would agree but let's not forget ororo controlled all the energies of the galatic core which would include the em energy as well.
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[QUOTE=LordAllMIghty;4622369]I think the question should be asked again. Which part of Storm's Weather manipulation is Omega level?
Is it her
Lightning/electro-magnetic control
Aerokinesis
Hydrokinesis
Temperature Control
Etc...[/QUOTE]
j would say, as others have, it's not limited to one aspect of weather but to all of it. those would also include the other natural forces such as a pressure, gravitational forces, em spectrum etc.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4622495]yea I was under the impression all his global level feats required him being amped or tier to using machinery. if that isnt the case then I would agree but let's not forget ororo controlled all the energies of the galatic core which would include the em energy as well.[/QUOTE]
The feats I listed Magneto didn't need any external assistance or any machine for help. This was done all by himself. Storm's Galactic Core doesn't make her better than him in terms of EM manipulation.
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4622509]The feats I listed Magneto didn't need any external assistance or any machine for help. This was done all by himself. Storm's Galactic Core doesn't make her better than him in terms of EM manipulation.[/QUOTE]
why wouldn't it? what energies would she have manipulated of those billions of planets if did not include the EM energies?
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4622509]The feats I listed Magneto didn't need any external assistance or any machine for help. This was done all by himself. Storm's Galactic Core doesn't make her better than him in terms of EM manipulation.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget what he did to Proteus' even in a weakened state.
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[QUOTE=CoCoBandz;4622520]Don't forget what he did to Proteus' even in a weakened state.[/QUOTE]
what did he do?
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[QUOTE=Lapsus;4622482]She could be beaten in each department by a specialist. In electrokinesis by electro, in hydrokinesis by hydroman, the trick is that she can control all this elements at once, so she can pick weaknesses for different adversaries.
And in Wether manipulation, no mutant can surpass her.
Besides, her body is still human if im not mistaken, she can handle herself against goons but she is not going to charge against Hulk :D[/QUOTE]
In any circumstance...any hero could be beaten by someone...that's just how it is.
With Storm though, it would be very difficult for her to be beaten by, let's say Crystal...not that it can't happen...but it should be very difficult, given her experience and skill.
FYI...She's defeated Hydro Man easily in the New F4 when she and Black Panther joined for a short time.
(And I'm not even factoring her new-found "Goddess Power".)
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4622523]what did he do?[/QUOTE]
After he figured out what Proteus' was he manipulated the electrons and psionic energy he was made of and dispersed him like he was nothing and this was Utopia Magneto who wasn't even close to his 90s level of power due to wear and tear.
When I first read that book I never understood why Magneto wasn't considered Omega based on what was considered Omega at the time.
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[QUOTE=Havok83;4622420]Storm is listed as an omega for weather manipulation so it falls under all as those all comprise her one power. What you list are just different ways in which she utilizes it. Its the sum of all that make her omega, not any one individual part[/QUOTE]
agreed!!!
[QUOTE=Lapsus;4622482]She could be beaten in each department by a specialist. In electrokinesis by electro, in hydrokinesis by hydroman, the trick is that she can control all this elements at once, so she can pick weaknesses for different adversaries.
And in Wether manipulation, no mutant can surpass her.
Besides, her body is still human if im not mistaken, she can handle herself against goons but she is not going to charge against Hulk :D[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure I agree with this assessment. A specialist may only use one aspect of a given element but it doesnt mean they would outright beat ororo in said element. as noted Ororo was able to disperse hydroman easily into humidity when they fought.
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[QUOTE=Lapsus;4622482]She could be beaten in each department by a specialist. In electrokinesis by electro, in hydrokinesis by hydroman, the trick is that she can control all this elements at once, so she can pick weaknesses for different adversaries.
And in Wether manipulation, no mutant can surpass her.
Besides, her body is still human if im not mistaken, she can handle herself against goons but she is not going to charge against Hulk :D[/QUOTE]
Your statement is incorrect. Electro, Hydroman can not beat Storm in those specific fields of power. The REAL Trick is that not only can Storm use all the Elements together in tandem, but she has mastery control down to the molecular level in each element.
Storm being a Goddess now it's not just any mutatnt, but i'd go as far and say no God *cough* Thor *Cough* can surpass her(Not sure about Zeus though)
Storm's body is human, but we've seen her take some crazy physical punishment no human should withstand. Storm doesn't need to charge the Hulk when she can send him across the planet without batting an eyelid.
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4622536]Your statement is incorrect. Elector, Hydroman can not beat Storm in those specific fields of power. The REAL Trick is that not only can Storm use all the Elements together in tandom, but she has mastery control down to the molecular level in each element.
Storm being a Goddess now i'd say no God can surpass her(Not sure about Zeus though)
Storm's body is human, but we've seen her take some crazy physical punishment no human should withstand. Storm doesn't need to charge the Hulk when she can send him across the planet without batting an eyelid.[/QUOTE]
I always felt like she should have some kind of wind aura passively protecting her from nonsense like bullets or knives.
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[QUOTE=CoCoBandz;4622530]After he figured out what Proteus' was he manipulated the electrons and psionic energy he was made of and dispersed him like he was nothing and this was Utopia Magneto who wasn't even close to his 90s level of power due to wear and tear.
When I first read that book I never understood why Magneto wasn't considered Omega based on what was considered Omega at the time.[/QUOTE]
oh that's pretty impressive. yea magneto has always been the big bad especially when it comes to his power. I'm also surprised it took this long for him to get the official title.
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[QUOTE=CoCoBandz;4622541]I always felt like she should have some kind of wind aura passively protecting her from nonsense like bullets or knives.[/QUOTE]
ummm hellonplease say this louder so the folks at marvel.can hear you. we even saw her do this in wolverine and the xmen.
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4622519]why wouldn't it? what energies would she have manipulated of those billions of planets if did not include the EM energies?[/QUOTE]
Because it's impossible to claim Storm's GC feat is far better than anything Magneto has done. Storm's Galactic Core feat was done 1 time. That doesn't exactly make her far better when Magneto who has other feats that rival her 1 time feat. And if we actually factor the feats that Magneto required no help and compare that Storm's by ALL her power and skill with EM Energy she has yet to replicate anything Magneto has done. But that doesn't mean she isn't far behind.
Let's go back to his feats:
-Magneto used his EM power to sense Kitty across the Universe in the intangible bullet and brought her back.
-Magneto was able to use his powers to put together the Dreaming Celestial.
[QUOTE=CoCoBandz;4622520]Don't forget what he did to Proteus' even in a weakened state.[/QUOTE]
And, yeah that too.
[QUOTE=CoCoBandz;4622541]I always felt like she should have some kind of wind aura passively protecting her from nonsense like bullets or knives.[/QUOTE]
She does it's called "Air Topography" if done right, NOBODY would sneak up on Storm.
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4622572]Because it's impossible to claim Storm's GC feat is far better than anything Magneto has done. Storm's Galactic Core feat was done 1 time. That doesn't exactly make her far better when Magneto who has other feats that rival her 1 time feat. And if we actually factor the feats that Magneto required no help and compare that Storm's by ALL her power and skill with EM Energy she has yet to replicate anything Magneto has done. But that doesn't mean she isn't far behind.
Let's go back to his feats:
-Magneto used his EM power to sense Kitty across the Universe in the intangible bullet and brought her back.
-Magneto was able to use his powers to put together the Dreaming Celestial.
And, yeah that too.
She does it's called "Air Topography" if done right, NOBODY would sneak up on Storm.[/QUOTE]
just because she has done it ONE time doesnt make it any less impressive. hes only guided a bullet with kitty in it while she was in space one time but it doesnt negate the feat.
it would mean she is better when considering each planet would have had it's own electromagnetic field that would have had to take control over; that would require a lot of raw power. not discrediting what you listed but yea he has manipulated one planet but when has he done more than 10, not even billions as Ororo did?
3. Ororo doesnt need to replicate it. Magneto is specialized in his control however Ororo has demonstrated more raw power. He put together the dreaming celestial, that sounds impressive when did he do thst? and how much energy was required to do it?