If you had to pick one villain who best embodies pure evil, who would it be? Who is the one person that would unite all heroes from all walks of life -- even old senior citizen heroes would come out of retirement to try and help save the day?
If you had to pick one villain who best embodies pure evil, who would it be? Who is the one person that would unite all heroes from all walks of life -- even old senior citizen heroes would come out of retirement to try and help save the day?
I mean...Red Skull, given a big enough McGuffin.
[QUOTE=JudicatorPrime;5034128]If you had to pick one villain who best embodies pure evil, who would it be? Who is the one person that would unite all heroes from all walks of life -- even old senior citizen heroes would come out of retirement to try and help save the day?[/QUOTE]
Quite easy answer, although there are three candidates: Thanos, Dr Doom, and Ultron.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]98379[/ATTACH] Phoenix Thanos, both villians have been done to death over the years, combine them as one, leave Thanos as host of the Phoenix force for years to come. There is more to both characters than just death and destruction.
[QUOTE=Ursalink;5034136]Quite easy answer, although there are three candidates: Thanos, Dr Doom, and Ultron.[/QUOTE]
[center]Speaking of three candidates...
Completely out of left field, I know. But these would be My Top 3:
1. [B][SIZE=3]Maelstrom[/SIZE][/B]
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2. [B][SIZE=3]The Purple Man[/SIZE][/B]
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3. [B][SIZE=3]Kid Miracleman[/SIZE][/B]
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Marijuana. I'm not kidding, but this actually happened.
[QUOTE=Ursalink;5034136]Quite easy answer, although there are three candidates: Thanos, Dr Doom, and Ultron.[/QUOTE]
I'd switch out Ultron for Galactus.
There's also Beyonder, Shuma Gorath, Mephisto, and maybe Red Skull under the right circumstances.
[QUOTE=Ursalink;5034136]Quite easy answer, although there are three candidates: Thanos, Dr Doom, and Ultron.[/QUOTE]
I don't think any of the three rise to the level of pure evil. Thanos was given a pass by the Living Tribunal even though he wiped out half the population of the multiverse. Ultron has caused a lot of destruction in his day but after all, he was Pym's invention. There's some blame to be shared there. And Doom has often allied himself with the heroes for certain causes and he did save the multiverse after all.
Pure Evil would be someone like Mephisto who had never had any redeeming qualities and neither does the Red Skull. But the Skull would need some heavy build up to require all the heroes to face him.
[QUOTE=Alan2099;5034347]I'd switch out Ultron for Galactus.
There's also Beyonder, Shuma Gorath, Mephisto, and maybe Red Skull under the right circumstances.[/QUOTE]
Galactus is more a force of nature than a real villain. He only wants to feed when he's hunger, the bad thing is, planets are what he needs to feed in order to survive. Doom stole the power of the Beyonder several times, which makes him a better candidate for the list. And Mephisto, OK, I admit I didn't think of him.
[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;5034350]I don't think any of the three rise to the level of pure evil. Thanos was given a pass by the Living Tribunal even though he wiped out half the population of the multiverse. Ultron has caused a lot of destruction in his day but after all, he was Pym's invention. There's some blame to be shared there. And Doom has often allied himself with the heroes for certain causes and he did save the multiverse after all.
Pure Evil would be someone like Mephisto who had never had any redeeming qualities and neither does the Red Skull. But the Skull would need some heavy build up to require all the heroes to face him.[/QUOTE]
Doom didn't save the Multiverse, he just took what was left of it and turned himself into God. He then created a place for the heroes who always beat him killed themselves for all eternity, and took the family of the only man who ever tried to truly help him (Reed Richards) as his own. That's really evil, as far as I see. And the Living Tribunal was a fool for giving Thanos a pass.
Mephisto is a good choice, however. But I don't count Red Skull because, although he can be extremely dangerous, his ego always opens the door to his defeat; so you don't need ALL the heroes united to defeat him.
kingpin and doom can resist purple man power so he's hardly invincible. doom did use his power to overtake the world but grew bored after a couple of months.
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already did it with thanos though even without the infinity gauntlet
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[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;5034350]But the Skull would need some heavy build up to require all the heroes to face him.[/QUOTE]
They probably missed their chance with Red Skull, since he once possessed a Cosmic Cube. Unfortunately, other than giving Sam Wilson a bond with Redwing and gifting him with bird-speak, there doesn't appear to be any lingering consequence of someone as evil as Red Skull owning a device that could reshape all of reality in the blink of an eye. Or is there?
Doom or Thanos
I think Donny Cates is wanting Knull to become that kind of threat, too.
krakoa /10
[QUOTE=Iron Maiden;5034350]I don't think any of the three rise to the level of pure evil. Thanos was given a pass by the Living Tribunal even though he wiped out half the population of the multiverse. Ultron has caused a lot of destruction in his day but after all, he was Pym's invention. There's some blame to be shared there. [/quote]
Pym just built the thing, he didn't intend for Ultron to become the monster he became. He was also Ultron's first victim. Thanos shouldn't be getting any passes from anybody, he's made progress in his old age but he remains a big threat to everyone in the universe.
[quote] And Doom has often allied himself with the heroes for certain causes and he did save the multiverse after all. [/quote]
For him to rule it.
[quote]Pure Evil would be someone like Mephisto who had never had any redeeming qualities and neither does the Red Skull. But the Skull would need some heavy build up to require all the heroes to face him.[/QUOTE]
Mephisto tried to sabotage Thanos during the Infinite Gauntlet. But yeah, Red Skull goes into the pure evil pile.
[QUOTE=Ursalink;5034362]
Doom didn't save the Multiverse, he just took what was left of it and turned himself into God. He then created a place for the heroes who always beat him killed themselves for all eternity, and took the family of the only man who ever tried to truly help him (Reed Richards) as his own. That's really evil, as far as I see. And the Living Tribunal was a fool for giving Thanos a pass.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. What Doom did was evil. Also he gets too much credit for saving the Multiverse.