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[QUOTE=Pumbaa;4196716]Oooohhhh wow.... now I think I see your point of view; If we're ignoring generally accepted geography, We don't see Africa as any different to Australia or Antartica, Borders are "not real" social/tribal constructs, and African elements in the story are disregarded as Pastiche, then sure I guess Wakanda isn't a part of Africa.
I'm not even sure its part of planet Earth at this point.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure you do see, based on the poor paraphrasing. no one's ignoring geography. that's a semantic game that I'm not playing with you guys. it's already been stipulated that Wakanda is physically part of the continent.
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Africa is where the first man and woman walked. Where human civilization started. Africa is where most of the worlds oil and minerals come from to make cell phones and computers. Without mother Africa the world is trash. Everyone know this. This is why racist are trying to take over Africa as they say it's a shithole.
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[QUOTE=goku200;4196733]Africa is where the first man and woman walked. Where human civilization started. Africa is where most of the worlds oil and minerals come from to make cell phones and computers. Without mother Africa the world is trash. Everyone know this. This is why racist are trying to take over Africa as they say it's a shithole.[/QUOTE]
Facts, the same place that even right now the Chinese are engaging in soft colonialism just so they move on in for the beautiful landscape, space and other precious resources . To paraphrase, everybody want to be in Africa but nobody want to be in Africa!
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[CENTER][B]Rare black leopard captured in new images from Kenya[/B]
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[B]Black panther: Rare animal caught on camera in Kenya
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[B]T’Challa’s Cousins? Scientists Photograph Rare Black Leopard for First Time in Over 100 Years
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[SIZE=5][COLOR="#4B0082"]Wakanda will no longer watch from the shadows. We cannot. We must not. We will work to be an example of how we as brothers and sisters on this earth should treat each other. Now, more than ever, the illusions of division threaten our very existence. We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis, the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another as if we were one single tribe.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/CENTER]
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Korath The Pursuer says... :cool:
[video=youtube;Ee8NvgURCZs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee8NvgURCZs[/video]
In times of need certain "tribes" may want to stick together due to the Safety In Numbers Initiative but I aint saying nothing!
Hey is that Mordo in the front row on his 12 Years A Slave grind laying low in da cut...
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I was only gone for 3 days
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Queen Nakia 12 Years A Slave...
If this doesn't get Wakanda involved with the slave trade I don't know what will!
Apparently that War Dog mission went way south... Like deep deep deep south!
[video=youtube;JSGO8iY3vh8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSGO8iY3vh8[/video]
Magneto needs his @$$ whipped for this and nothing Storm could say about mutant persecution holds a candle to these actions!
Cyberbullying... Safespace... Uhm NOPE!
The Oppression Olympics continues...
Note: In the directors cut edition a Royal Talon fighter jet lands just behind the barn and Black Panther and a gang of Doras stab everybody repeatedly like See Wakanda And Die slow MF's!
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[QUOTE=Redjack;4196667]it's actually not up to you. so far, all i've put forth is facts.
i don't have any emotional skin in the game.[/QUOTE]
Really?
Well, I'm afraid that MU Canon established by the OG's Lee, Kirby, Priest and Hudlin totally contradicts the narrative you're trying to posit as fact.
Wakanda has always been a fictional African Nation state situated within the continent of Africa as depicted by Marvel comics so regardless of how much I appreciate your writing acumen across the board, there is simply no way that I'm going to disregard established Canon just because....
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[QUOTE=Pumbaa;4196716]Oooohhhh wow.... now I think I see your point of view; If we're ignoring generally accepted geography, We don't see Africa as any different to Australia or Antartica, Borders are "not real" social/tribal constructs, and African elements in the story are disregarded as Pastiche, then sure I guess Wakanda isn't a part of Africa.
I'm not even sure its part of planet Earth at this point.[/QUOTE]
Brotherman, I totally dig where you're coming from.
It's a beautiful vibe. :cool:
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[QUOTE=Jabare;4196879][IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/137TKgM3d2XQjK/giphy.gif[/IMG]
I was only gone for 3 days[/QUOTE]
Everything's cool bruv.
No cause for alarm.
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[QUOTE=Mr MajestiK;4196593]I have to take my hat off to brothers Blind Wedjat and Pumbaa for keeping it all the way real on this topic.
I've learnt alot from your posts and have throughly enjoyed reading your contributions.
Once again, thank you both. :cool:[/QUOTE]
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All this beefing has caused a divide within the greater Dora Milage community... :cool:
[video=youtube;o4nhRQfUk68]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4nhRQfUk68[/video]
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[QUOTE=Jabare;4196879][IMG]https://media.giphy.com/media/137TKgM3d2XQjK/giphy.gif[/IMG]
I was only gone for 3 days[/QUOTE]
Bruh that's exactly what I'm feeling looking at this convo lol
Wakanda is African btw. Whatever cultural traits they built upon were indigenous to the region and therefore indigenous to the continent. The fact that they isolated themselves early on doesn't detract from that basic fact. Africa is the most diverse continent so not everything needs to look the same, as it clearly didn't historically or even in the present day.
Therefore even though Wakanda developed different foods, music, technology, etc. than their neighbors, they did so on the continent and therefore those traits are African. If anything, as others have said they are the most African people on the continent seeing as they imported nothing from the colonizing powers of the world and maintained cultural continuity for thousands of years. As different as (theoretically speaking) they ought to be from other Africans on the continent, they came to be in Africa and are therefore African.
And even if we're looking at this historically, there was a time before the arrival of vibranium, so there was most certainly a time when there was the exchange of culture between the area we know now as Wakanda and the surrounding region. I don't know when the Wakandan peoples got access to vibranium, but even if it was a few hundred years before the rise of Mesopotamia or the Indus Valley civilization, they still would have received substantial cultural contact from other groups and gotten some "traditional" African traits like ancestor worship and mud-brick architecture, hence why they have them now. At least that's my headcanon.
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Hotel Wakanda... :cool:
Rhodey out here fulfilling Queen Nakia's vision probably on Stark Industries money waiting on Wakanda which is not on the continent of Africa and does not care about less fortunate Africans because they are not technically African!
[video=youtube;1Kk_oah-wCM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kk_oah-wCM[/video]
Blexit or Bust... ;)
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[QUOTE=FLEX HECTIC;4196703]Dilemma... :cool:
Since my wife is a born and raised South African and I am a born and raised African American does that make me a South African African American?
Under Judeo-Christian marriage laws we are technically "one flesh" so that should make our son... An African mutant by default! ;)
What's weird about all this is that I am thoroughly convinced that my wife is South African Secret Service and she is working me like Jason Bourne!
I mean like we go to the mall and she walks 50 paces behind me and tells me via bluetooth earphone which store to shop in or duck for cover like...
[video=youtube;DUd5RPVDjPY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUd5RPVDjPY[/video]
Mrs. Hectic: "Walk towards the Disney Store... Pause, browse the coffee mugs... Buy the Thanos Infinity Gauntlet one... Now drop down and pretend to tie your shoe... In ten seconds rise up and head out the store towards the local comic shop... Buy the Black Panther issue #10... No, not the Coates one the other one..."
Flex Hectic: "I think I'm being followed..."
Mrs. Hectic: "That's just the store security sweating you because you're black... Keep moving"
Flex Hectic: "I'm South African African American!"
Mrs. Hectic: "Whatever... Now take a right towards the calendar kiosk in the middle of the mall... Search the Marvel calendars and keep your head down!"
Flex Hectic: "Niiiiice... Is this Neal Adams?"
Mrs. Hectic: "Drop the calendar and slowly pick it up... Careful!"
Flex Hectic: "If I break it I gotta buy it!"
Mrs. Hectic: "There are two Goon Slam Gary's on your left at 4 o'clock..."
Flex Hectic: "OH SNAP THEY SEE ME!!!"
Mrs. Hectic: "Got em!"
BIFF... SLAM... BOOM... BANG... (shaky camera and stuff)... CRACK... SLAP... POOF... (even more shaky camera)... CLANG... POW!
Flex Hectic: "Dayum woman you about that life for real... Look at all that blood!"
Mrs. Hectic: "Now take a left towards the Victoria's Secret shop!"
Flex Hectic: "I like where this is headed can I see your War Dog tattoo!"
Mrs. Hectic: "Get the red one with the lace... No the red one!"
Flex Hectic: "But I'm really pheeling the blue one with the..."
Mrs. Hectic: "RED... Now slip away to the dressing room I'll meet you there stay low and quiet not a sound!"
Transmission REDACTED by South African Secret Service!
It's a matter of national... OOPS I mean continental security! :D[/QUOTE]
[B]I.. sweet baby Bast that was hilarious.. seriously had me cracking up BAD[/B]