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[QUOTE=Digifiend;3920116]DC previews tend to only appear a day or two before the comic goes on sale, unlike Marvel whose previews appear five or six days before the on sale date. So, no, the preview isn't out yet.[/QUOTE]
unless they want to spoil us with major overarch world points
That. Was. Awesome!!!
I am [I]so[/I] in. Their purpose for being drawn together was totally unexpected. This just breathed life into DC's cosmic playground.
The dialogue felt natural. Williamson really had their voices. Art, of course, was great.
What a great start. Such an epic feel to this whole book. Definitely worth the wait.
I really liked the first issue. I hope it wont suffer more delays.
[QUOTE=Iconic;3924636]That. Was. Awesome!!!
I am [I]so[/I] in. Their purpose for being drawn together was totally unexpected. This just breathed life into DC's cosmic playground.
The dialogue felt natural. Williamson really had their voices. Art, of course, was great.
What a great start. Such an epic feel to this whole book. Definitely worth the wait.[/QUOTE]
I really like Starfire in it. I am glad that she is out of the New Teen Titans comic because I don't like her being on the same team with Damian.
I like her with her old teammate Cyborg.
Her costume design looks good.
I like it better than her last one with the gloves.
The warrior bracelets look better than gloves on her
[QUOTE=Starrius;3924677]I really like Starfire in it. I am glad that she is out of the New Teen Titans comic because I don't like her being on the same team with Damian.
I like her with her old teammate Cyborg.
Her costume design looks good.
I like it better than her last one with the gloves.
The warrior bracelets look better than gloves on her[/QUOTE]
i thought she absorbed ultraviolet rays
A few overwritten lines aside, I thought this was a pretty promising opening with good characterization and solid surprises towards the end.
Sejic's work is amazing and is really sad he won't be here for the long term.
The art is fantastic, unfortunately I feel a 2 month delay killed this book because DC didn't market it and most forgot about it.
I'm okay with 90% of the story. JPV being here doesn't really make sense. I know they just threw in a Bat character in the hopes of boosting sales but he is beyond random and has no business being on this team. There are 30 other characters they could use. Hell I would have accepted Ted Kord over JPV.
Still I would have liked to see the original issue
[QUOTE=Jabare;3925030]The art is fantastic, unfortunately I feel a 2 month delay killed this book because DC didn't market it and most forgot about it.
I'm okay with 90% of the story. JPV being here doesn't really make sense. I know they just threw in a Bat character in the hopes of boosting sales but he is beyond random and has no business being on this team. There are 30 other characters they could use. Hell I would have accepted Ted Kord over JPV.
Still I would have liked to see the original issue[/QUOTE]
Yeah, probably the only real "Why are you here again?" moment I had with the whole issue. Otherwise, like Dark, a pretty good start.
God I can't believe DC slipped up so bad and kicked Sejic off the book. What in the world were they thinking?!
1) This is by far the best Cyborg design I have ever seen. Most artists try to draw cyborg like a 1975 buick, yet Sejic understands that modern technology would be sleek and has made the armor look more modern and organic. But then again, Sejic does have a concept art background in which concept artist normally blows comic book artist designs completely out of the water.
2) I'm definitely liking the characterization here. I feel like Cyborg was a little more blunt than he normally is (the stowaway line felt really odd coming from him.) but the take charge nature was exactly how you're supposed to write cyborg.
Overall, even with all of the screw ups, this is one of the only books from DC I'm actually excited about. I know that will drop drastically once sejic leaves, but I do hope the writing can at least maintain what we see currently. I was able to deal with Sara Pitchelli eventually leaving the miles morales series because bendis wrote it so well, we will see here if the writing can maintain the book.
Odyssey is my book of the week. Not that I wouldn't scrap the pile to have Sejic back on Aquaman instead, but hey. As good starts with cool direction, world-building and art design go.
So there's a ... fair amount of world-build for an issue # 1. We thank god SKIP almost all of the character meet-ups, with only the Space Cop and the Evil Prophet ones actually being depicted. One line of dialogue - Azrael was a stowaway - makes his arc more intriguing, mysterious, dangerous, roguish, instantaneously. Show, don't tell, the Hero's Journey - but yeah, TELL the Lancer, the Rogue. Let the reputation do the talking for a bit. Build the mystique.
Anyway.
1. Most interested I've been in Jessica since Darkseid War and she stopped being Power Ring. (See also: Interest in Darkseid.)
2. Most stoked I've been to see Cyborg in anything. He's been real good in Snyder's book but seeing him and Kori as O.G. Titans builds gravity and bonafides.
3. Most interested I've been in Vic actually having a motherbox embedded, too. (See also: Interest in Darkseid.)
4. If we live in a universe where we have to have Jean-Paul Valley flashpointed back to life ... most interested I've been in Jean-Paul Valley since he came back to life. (See also: Darkseid.) I think sending Azrael on a space crusade in a flashy I assume FoxTech-meets-Dumas Az-Bats costume is the biggest stroke of genius weird left field blue skies bold move I've seen in a book in a while.
5. All this and Vril Dox hasn't even shown up yet.
It's my favorite of the week as well! Sejic has always been a great artist and to have him draw Koriand'r... just wow!
I like how they set the story up. Jessica's and Simon's conversation at the start was a great introduction scene and I really enjoyed the interactions between Vic and Kory as well.
I could do without Azrael but he doesn't bother me. I'm looking forward to where this goes.
And we got a new trinity, with goddess, man of steel and knight included.
I like this quite a bit. This might bow my favorite one to come out of No Justice.
[QUOTE=leo619;3925258]God I can't believe DC slipped up so bad and kicked Sejic off the book. What in the world were they thinking?![/QUOTE]
I'm still really curious what the continuity issue was that led them to scuttle the finished issues.
I really liked this issue. I am not Williamson's biggest fan because of his work on the Flash, but I liked this issue and I will continue reading this series. The team, the premise and Sejic on art are what made me give this series a go and all of these points have been delivered on so far.
Sejic is one of the best artists in the industry right now and I know he is leaving the book, but his art was great in this issue. I liked No Justice and the fact that this series is continuing plotlines from that book is a reason I was happy with this issue. It was full of exposition, but that has been a part of the medium for a while so I don't really mind it.
One line stood out to me. "Forgive me, old friend". Since Cyborg and Starfire didn't even meet in modern continuity until No Justice (Vic was always in JL and later a solo, while Kori was in Red Hood of all places, a solo, and then Teen Titans), their past with the New Teen Titans must've been restored.
I'm ashamed to say that i haven't read anything with Azrael before. Him hearing voices, is that normal for him? Gives me Starman vibes a bit.
[QUOTE=K. Jones;3925477]Odyssey is my book of the week. Not that I wouldn't scrap the pile to have Sejic back on Aquaman instead, but hey. As good starts with cool direction, world-building and art design go.
So there's a ... fair amount of world-build for an issue # 1. We thank god SKIP almost all of the character meet-ups, with only the Space Cop and the Evil Prophet ones actually being depicted. One line of dialogue - Azrael was a stowaway - makes his arc more intriguing, mysterious, dangerous, roguish, instantaneously. Show, don't tell, the Hero's Journey - but yeah, TELL the Lancer, the Rogue. Let the reputation do the talking for a bit. Build the mystique.
Anyway.
1. Most interested I've been in Jessica since Darkseid War and she stopped being Power Ring. (See also: Interest in Darkseid.)
2. Most stoked I've been to see Cyborg in anything. He's been real good in Snyder's book but seeing him and Kori as O.G. Titans builds gravity and bonafides.
3. Most interested I've been in Vic actually having a motherbox embedded, too. (See also: Interest in Darkseid.)
4. If we live in a universe where we have to have Jean-Paul Valley flashpointed back to life ... most interested I've been in Jean-Paul Valley since he came back to life. (See also: Darkseid.) I think sending Azrael on a space crusade in a flashy I assume FoxTech-meets-Dumas Az-Bats costume is the biggest stroke of genius weird left field blue skies bold move I've seen in a book in a while.
5. All this and Vril Dox hasn't even shown up yet.[/QUOTE]
The whole stowaway part doesn't make any sense. With Tynion leaving Detective Comics back in May he had to tie loose ends to end the whole No Man's Land red headed step-children of the batfamily thing quick. So in one frame it was explained that he was in talks with Cyborg for some sort of mission. Done very sloppily because the new writers didn't want to continue with a batfamily.
I was really looking forward to this series, but some of the writing is just too over enunciated. Hopefully this is an issue that is fixed.
I'm not too familiar with Titans so, is there a thing between Cyborg and Koriand'r?
[QUOTE=AzraelOnline;3926816]The whole stowaway part doesn't make any sense. With Tynion leaving Detective Comics back in May he had to tie loose ends to end the whole No Man's Land red headed step-children of the batfamily thing quick. So in one frame it was explained that he was in talks with Cyborg for some sort of mission. Done very sloppily because the new writers didn't want to continue with a batfamily.
I was really looking forward to this series, but some of the writing is just too over enunciated. Hopefully this is an issue that is fixed.
I'm not too familiar with Titans so, is there a thing between Cyborg and Koriand'r?[/QUOTE]
Cyborg and Starfire (and Raven, and additionally Beast Boy) are all core to Wolfman's seminal New Teen Titans run, where they were all introduced.
Azrael's stowaway move really only felt so good to me because it was such a "Batman move" to do.
Good start. I hope the delays won’t hurt this series too much.
[QUOTE=AzraelOnline;3926816]The whole stowaway part doesn't make any sense. With Tynion leaving Detective Comics back in May he had to tie loose ends to end the whole No Man's Land red headed step-children of the batfamily thing quick. So in one frame it was explained that he was in talks with Cyborg for some sort of mission. Done very sloppily because the new writers didn't want to continue with a batfamily.
I was really looking forward to this series, but some of the writing is just too over enunciated. Hopefully this is an issue that is fixed.
I'm not too familiar with Titans so, is there a thing between Cyborg and Koriand'r?[/QUOTE]
Yes...there is a friendship between Victor and Kory, and that's why she put her head against his head and addressed him as 'old friend.'
They were old teammates that first met in the New Team Titans Volume 1, issue #1 published on December 1980.
It was when the Teen Titans rescued her from the Gordanians who were slavers.
She was a slave for 5 or 6 years. She escaped from the slaveship and stole another ship and flew it to Earth.
She ended up being brought in the apartment by a woman's boyfriend, and she was very weak on a bed.
The Gordanians tracked her down and broke into the apartment and took her away.
Raven told the Teen Titans that they need to rescue her for she's the last member of the team, and so they did.
Victor called her 'Goldie' a lot when she was gold-skinned before artists made her orange-skinned
With her being a typical Tamaranean that is very open with emotions, Kory was the most affectionate and loving of the team
She really viewed the Titans as family including especially Donna Troy (Wonder Girl,Troia) who's her best friend and like a sister to her
In Teen Titans Spotlight issue #1 published June 1982
Victor tells the Teen Titans about his origins
Victor says:
Y'know, We've all been so busy lately I hadn't even thought of friends though I think when I became this galvanized freak, I lost all my friends
Kory says:
You must be wrong, Victor. True friends don't desert you because of an accident.
Victor talks about his childhood.
He talked about how his parents probed him, tested him, wired him up, and god knows what else
He talked how he sometimes thought he was more of a guinea pig than a son to his parents.
He told that he had a good life, for a human computer with a 170 IQ.
Garfield aka Changeling (he wasn't known as Beast Boy) callously says:
You were a genius? What happened, Vic? You take too many stupid pills?
Victor says:
Real funny, Logan. Ever consider takin' up a new career -- as a corpse.
Kory compassionately says:
I feel sorry for you, Victor. On Tamaran, love is everything.
After he tells his origins story....
Victor says:
So yeah, real friends...I didn't have 'em while I was growin up. An' sometimes, I get a little misty-eyed 'cause I certainly do have em now.
Kory has his hand on Victor's chin and kisses him near his lips on the metal half of his face and says:
And we shall always be your friends, Victor. How can we help but love one who is such a warm loving man.
I read all of Marv Wolfman's very popular and iconic Titans run (1980 to 1996) which include:
The New Teen Titans Volumes 1 and 2
The Tales of the Teen Titans
The Tales of the New Teen Titans
The Tales of the Titans
The Teen Titans Spotlight
I don't know how much of the Wolfman's Titans run is canon in the Rebirth timeline.
It's good to see Victor and Kory as teammates again.
BTW
Teen Titans Cartoon series is about Robin,Starfire,Raven,Cyborg,and Beast Boy
therefore, Starfire and Cyborg working together is well-known
[QUOTE=Thor-Ul;3926117]And we got a new trinity, with goddess, man of steel and knight included.[/QUOTE]
And, as the teaser for the next issue says, it could be the dawning of a new age (at least on the cosmic side).
[QUOTE=The Anti-Geek;3926791]I'm ashamed to say that i haven't read anything with Azrael before. Him hearing voices, is that normal for him? Gives me Starman vibes a bit.[/QUOTE]
I remember when he was Batman for awhile during the Knightfall storyline after Bane broke Bruce's back.
He was vicious as Batman.
Selina was the first to notice that he was not the real Batman.
[QUOTE=Digifiend;3926318]One line stood out to me. "Forgive me, old friend". Since Cyborg and Starfire didn't even meet in modern continuity until No Justice (Vic was always in JL and later a solo, while Kori was in Red Hood of all places, a solo, and then Teen Titans), their past with the New Teen Titans must've been restored.[/QUOTE]
It seems like Victor and Kory's past in Marv Wolfman's run Titans comics from 1980 to 1996 are restored.
After reading the Marv Wolfman run Titans comics, I believe that they should not have wiped out the Titans history any way.
Those Titans comics were one of the most popular and best-selling comics at the time.
Does anyone know why Sejic isn't going to be continuing the book? He's met deadlines before so I can't imagine he was the major reason for the delay.
He was annoyed because he had to redraw issues 1 and 2.
Really hyped by this issue, but bummed out that Sejic won't draw it beyond two. However, the story is so great that if the upcoming artist don't change the designs too much, I'll love it nonetheless. I mean, come on, that last page reveal ? It's crazy stuff, but I want to learn so much more about it !
Solid start but missing a character or two.
[QUOTE=Vinsanity;3929942]Solid start but missing a character or two.[/QUOTE]
I don't know...I rather like having a smaller team. It allows more focus on characters as well as world building. As much as I enjoy JL right now, it has to jump around so much just to keep other characters involved.
I'm already interested in Cyborg and want to see him unleash. I'm not very familiar with Starfire and this book seems like a good place to see her get some quality focus. I expect some other guests to pop in and out though.
[QUOTE=Thor-Ul;3926117]And we got a new trinity, with goddess, man of steel and knight included.[/QUOTE]
I was just thinking about that too, there's definitely hints that these three characters could possibly represent a new trinity, which would be a big deal since it's effecting the the cosmic universe at large.
[QUOTE=Iconic;3930031]I don't know...I rather like having a smaller team. It allows more focus on characters as well as world building. As much as I enjoy JL right now, it has to jump around so much just to keep other characters involved.[/QUOTE]
Team books these days seem to struggle with just six characters.
It seems like writers are much better off with just smaller, condensed, teams.
Question:
At the beginning of the issue Jessica mentions she was assigned to patrol the "Ghost Sector" by the Guardians on Oa.
By my understanding Oa was destroyed and Mogo is currently the Corps/Guardians headquarters.
Am I missing something? Is this a goof? What's going on?!?
I really dug this issue. They got a fun collection of characters and a great hook. I hope the creative rejiggering is worth losing Sejic on art because he is the best thing about the book so far.
[QUOTE=Rated-R-Ron;3931973]Question:
At the beginning of the issue Jessica mentions she was assigned to patrol the "Ghost Sector" by the Guardians on Oa.
By my understanding Oa was destroyed and Mogo is currently the Corps/Guardians headquarters.
Am I missing something? Is this a goof? What's going on?!?[/QUOTE]Could that be something to do with Green Lanterns 56 and 57?
[QUOTE=Digifiend;3932280]Could that be something to do with Green Lanterns 56 and 57?[/QUOTE]
Well, it was probably only a matter of time before Oa came back.
[QUOTE=Digifiend;3932280]Could that be something to do with Green Lanterns 56 and 57?[/QUOTE]
Those 2 issues haven't come out yet so if Oa comes back into play we don't know that yet, also if you take into account JLO #1 has been delayed by several months due to art then when this written Oa wasn't in the picture at all.
In the current GL arc up to #55 Oa was never mentioned, just that Mogo has been infiltrated, under attack and was going through a severe weather storm.
Is Oa still functional in current continuity at all?
[url]https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/09/29/original-justice-league-odyssey-1/[/url]
This gives some hints as it were to plot changes
Also, apparently Sejic is unfortunately only doing #1-2 interiors followed by just cover work on the book
[QUOTE=Drakeon;3934038][url]https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/09/29/original-justice-league-odyssey-1/[/url]
This gives some hints as it were to plot changes
Also, apparently Sejic is unfortunately only doing #1-2 interiors followed by just cover work on the book[/QUOTE]
DC always ruining a good things. Literally the one title I was hyped for and waiting for. The art is so on point and now after two issues thats going to be gone. Good lord DC.
If this Bleeding cool leak is true as it appears to be from the images. I like some elements and dislike others. I believe the initially story flows much better with what Snyder was doing and is a little less random than what we ultimately got. I like that the team banded together and ultimately prevailed against a threat. I love that there were real stakes and this seemed like a good old action packed first issue that would hook you in. I love that they are FINALLY using the Darkseid and Cyborg connection.
I do not like Cyborg getting ripped a part and shredded, it happens far too much. I've ranted about this for several occasions about how it belittles the character. Even tho the art looks great and he assuringly gets a great feats out of it. DC's gone to this well far too many times and it does Cyborg no favors.
Also seeing Cyborg and Starfire together. I didn't realize how much I missed that friendship.
Anyway DC gets my hopes up only to dash them ... business as usual. I guess I'll enjoy this as long as it lasts. (Also JLO team if you're reading this, how much would it cost me to get the original issue? I'll pay for the commission if needed.)