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[QUOTE=Frontier;4941920]Yeah, if she goes public then she'll probably get a codename. It's weird that she's the only member of the Trinity who has never had her codename uttered in her own movie :p.[/QUOTE]
Didn't Samir call her "Wonder Woman" in French in the first film?
See like i said shes the only one who is just...unidentified super lady with weapons & armor. FOUR movies in and not one mention of this mysterious wonder woman myth. Wasnt bats a myth in bvs??
[QUOTE=Castling;4942600]Didn't Samir call her "Wonder Woman" in French in the first film?[/QUOTE]
I saw a youtube deleted scene where he said it. Was he actually french in the film?? It would have been cool if like a little kid or something came up to her and said it and they looked around and smiled and then she just went by the name
[QUOTE=Mysterious;4942634]I saw a youtube deleted scene where he said it. Was he actually french in the film?? It would have been cool if like a little kid or something came up to her and said it and they looked around and smiled and then she just went by the name[/QUOTE]
Sameer's nationality isn't disclosed as far as I know, but he speaks fluent French, and many assume he is from Morocco, since Saïd Taghmaoui hails from there. During this time, Morocco was a protectorate under Spain and France.
I think it's pretty darn cool that Diana is never or rarely called the Wonder Woman in the movies. To me the movie title is a description of the character. She is a wonder woman. Being Diana to those who know her but a woman of mystery and wonder to everyone else seems like a great motif.
I don't want to go back and watch every Batman and Superman movie ever made, but I wonder if there weren't some where they didn't go by that name themselves--but might have had it put upon them afterwards. I know that Clark was never called the Superman for most of the run of SMALLVILLE. I gave up on GOTHAM early on, did little Bruce eventually get called the Bat-Man?
And it seems to me there's an established tradition in origin stories and other stories that the heroes never get the titles. Billy Batson in SHAZAM! never officially gets the name Shazam or Captain Marvel. In most of the Doctor Who shows, the Doctor is not called Doctor Who (although he is sometimes in the credits). Morpheus or Dream is rarely ever called the Sandman in the comic book that has that name. And given enough time and research, I bet I could come up with a long list of TV shows, books, movies, comics where this kind of thing happens.
I'd be perfectly happy if the Gal Gadot version of the Amazing Amazon is never called Wonder Woman by her peers in the movies. However, I expect this will happen in WONDER WOMAN 1984, as it suits the tone and the sensibility of the era.
If they had to call the Joker 'Jeremiah' on Gotham, I sincerely doubt they ever got the okay to call Batman 'Batman'. I could be wrong, but since he only appeared in the costume in the last seconds of the last episode, it wouldn't surprise me.
[QUOTE=Jim Kelly;4942704]I think it's pretty darn cool that Diana is never or rarely called the Wonder Woman in the movies. To me the movie title is a description of the character. She is a wonder woman. Being Diana to those who know her but a woman of mystery and wonder to everyone else seems like a great motif.[/QUOTE]
I guess that's not necessarily inaccurate but it's also hard to ignore the fact that the title is also supposed to be the characters' Superhero name.
[QUOTE]And it seems to me there's an established tradition in origin stories and other stories that the heroes never get the titles. Billy Batson in SHAZAM! never officially gets the name Shazam or Captain Marvel. In most of the Doctor Who shows, the Doctor is not called Doctor Who (although he is sometimes in the credits). Morpheus or Dream is rarely ever called the Sandman in the comic book that has that name. And given enough time and research, I bet I could come up with a long list of TV shows, books, movies, comics where this kind of thing happens.[/QUOTE]
There's a scene in the movie where Billy is trying to transfer his power to the other kids and says "say my name" with the name implicitly being "Shazam" but the kids instead say "Billy" :p.
[QUOTE=Mysterious;4942634]I saw a youtube deleted scene where he said it. Was he actually french in the film?? It would have been cool if like a little kid or something came up to her and said it and they looked around and smiled and then she just went by the name[/QUOTE]
I believe Sameer was North African, perhaps Tunisian or Moroccan, where they speak French.
His words were, "[I]madame, s'il vous plait, incroyable, magnifique[/I]." I just don't know if he's referring to Diana or the drinks he's serving to Steve and Diana. Given his fascination with Diana, what he'd just seen in Veld, and his constant flirtation with her, I'm thinking he was referring to Diana as an [I]"incredible, magnificent, woman,"[/I] or loosely, a [I]"wonder woman"[/I].
[video=youtube_share;aNajZxBmGUg]https://youtu.be/aNajZxBmGUg[/video]
[QUOTE=Mysterious;4942634]I saw a youtube deleted scene where he said it. Was he actually french in the film?? It would have been cool if like a little kid or something came up to her and said it and they looked around and smiled and then she just went by the name[/QUOTE]
I always assumed he would be from Algeria which was heavily colonized by the French. Interestingly, Zara of the Crimson Flame is also a French speaking Arab, and I assumed that was because she was Algerian too.
Patty Jenkins on Wonder Woman 3 and The Amazons spin-off: "There’s an arc that I have in mind": [url]https://www.gamesradar.com/wonder-woman-3-amazons-patty-jenkins-story-arc/[/url]
Wonder Woman 1984 director Patty Jenkins talks villains and Chris Pine’s return: [url]https://www.gamesradar.com/wonder-woman-1984-villains-patty-jenkins-interview/[/url]
Patty Jenkins also reveals that the sequel's title links to George Orwell’s classic “for a very specific reason”: [url]https://www.gamesradar.com/wonder-woman-1984-image-gal-gadot-chris-pine/[/url]
Seems like Jenkins is confirming an Amazons spin-off for Wonder Woman that she will produce.
[url]https://www.gamesradar.com/wonder-woman-3-amazons-patty-jenkins-story-arc/?utm_content=buffer095bf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer_tftw[/url]
EDIT: Whoops! I just saw your post, Last Son of Krypton!
Wow. The question is who will direct it. If she isn't then who. But Geoff John also helped the Amazon movie cool. You guys think he will help with the three movie?
New leaked images from WW84 that will appear on a 2021 calendar, which will be for sale on Amazon.
And Gal Gadot appears flying from most people
i honestly think the pose looks like she's flying what y'all think?
Also it says 2021...
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That would be cool if she flies.
[QUOTE=Cruelrain;4952851]New leaked images from WW84 that will appear on a 2021 calendar, which will be for sale on Amazon.
And Gal Gadot appears flying from most people
i honestly think the pose looks like she's flying what y'all think?
Also it says 2021...
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Either that or it's a really weird jump...
Mid-jump or mid-point of the lightning/lasso riding thing is what I assume it is.
I guess nobody here has read the WW1984 plot leaks.
If those leaks are truthful, let's just say that...I am very happy about what the ending of the film [finally] establishes.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVhNCTH8pDs[/url]
The pose could be full on flying or gliding on air currents. I think it's the latter, with the riding the lightning stuff being an expansion on it.
Visually, it has ended up way cooler than it sounds on paper.
Shazam fliys.
Superman flys.
Cyborg flys.
And....maybe if we are super lucky, Wonder Woman can either glide or ride lightning bolts. I guess she will have to check the weather channel constantly to know if she can get to a location under her own power or needs some kind of transportation to get there quickly. Hopefully the wind, if there is enough of it, is going the direction she needs to be at.
As usual, with respect to the DCEU and comics to a lesser degree, Wonder Woman continually gets the shaft in powers. Just rewatched Justice League on TBS and it was still as bad as the first time I saw it. I think the writers thought of the Justice League as cannon fodder to Superman instead of it being the parademons.
Why doesn't anyone ask Patty Jenkins the question that if she somehow glides/flys in her second solo movie which takes place before BvS and JL, then why she didn't do the same in those movies. And don't let her cop out by saying that those movies were independent of her universe. Ask her why the premier superheroine in the comic book world can't have her powers be accurately represented on screen! And if she glides, why did she take a power degrade from over 35 years ago as opposed to the present?
[QUOTE=BiteTheBullet;4955264] Just rewatched Justice League on TBS and it was still as bad as the first time I saw it. I think the writers thought of the Justice League as cannon fodder to Superman instead of it being the parademons.[/QUOTE]
Thanks god that movie flopped hard
Wonder Woman flies in the film, guys.
Self-powered flight.
You will all see.
Nothing to worry about.
At one point, weren't spoilers spoiler tagged in this thread?
[QUOTE=BiteTheBullet;4955264]Shazam fliys.
Superman flys.
Cyborg flys.
And....maybe if we are super lucky, Wonder Woman can either glide or ride lightning bolts. I guess she will have to check the weather channel constantly to know if she can get to a location under her own power or needs some kind of transportation to get there quickly. Hopefully the wind, if there is enough of it, is going the direction she needs to be at.
As usual, with respect to the DCEU and comics to a lesser degree, Wonder Woman continually gets the shaft in powers. Just rewatched Justice League on TBS and it was still as bad as the first time I saw it. I think the writers thought of the Justice League as cannon fodder to Superman instead of it being the parademons.
[B]Why doesn't anyone ask Patty Jenkins the question that if she somehow glides/flys in her second solo movie which takes place before BvS and JL, then why she didn't do the same in those movies. [/B] And don't let her cop out by saying that those movies were independent of her universe. Ask her why the premier superheroine in the comic book world can't have her powers be accurately represented on screen! And if she glides, why did she take a power degrade from over 35 years ago as opposed to the present?[/QUOTE]
That hypothetical answer wouldn't be that much of a cop out since it's a common sense response. Why do you care about continuity with movies that the studio is desperately trying to move away from? Those movies are not her problem, and they shouldn't be ours anymore if we're just watching the self contained Wonder Woman films.
Cyborg flew in one crappy movie and we'll very likely never see this version of him again. The spectacle of him flying was met with crickets (as was the entire movie) while Wonder Woman riding the lighting has received an overall positive or at least intrigued response.
Can't we all agree to just ignore BvS and JL until the end of time?
[QUOTE=Nyssane;4955640]Can't we all agree to just ignore BvS and JL until the end of time?[/QUOTE]
The people who hate them sure won't.
[QUOTE=Nyssane;4955640]Can't we all agree to just ignore BvS and JL until the end of time?[/QUOTE]
What I’ve been doing, only I throw in SS.
[QUOTE=Nyssane;4955640]Can't we all agree to just ignore BvS and JL until the end of time?[/QUOTE]
BvS is kino though.
Can we just drop it and focus on the movie that is relevant to this thread please?
Justice League, while certainly a bad movie, still made close to 900 million worldwide at the box office. So I highly doubt people will just ignore a movie that they paid good money to see.
Thanks to TBS/TNT, they will be showing the so called 'crap' movies like BvS, JL and SS for a very long time. But, there is no disclaimer that the movie doesn't exist, or that Superman doesn't need his 'superbuddies' to help him out on these outings.
[QUOTE=BiteTheBullet;4956023]Justice League, while certainly a bad movie, still made close to 900 million worldwide at the box office. [B]So I highly doubt people will just ignore a movie that they paid good money to see.[/B]
Thanks to TBS/TNT, they will be showing the so called 'crap' movies like BvS, JL and SS for a very long time. But, there is no disclaimer that the movie doesn't exist, or that Superman doesn't need his 'superbuddies' to help him out on these outings.[/QUOTE]
They are happy to forget it or not rewatch if they didn't enjoy the experience.
Seriously, this movie and this thread are not about them. Places like this only make up a very small percentage of the viewing audience, and the vast majority of the audience are not going to be making a stink over any contradictions because they have other things to worry about.
If she flies/glides in this but not in JL, just say "a wizard did it" and move on.
I thought JL did $657M
[QUOTE=Cruelrain;4956042]I thought JL did $657M[/QUOTE]
I just googled. It did close to 900 million not accounting for blu ray sales and stuff like that.
[QUOTE=BiteTheBullet;4956056]I just googled. It did close to 900 million not accounting for blu ray sales and stuff like that.[/QUOTE]
I googled as well most sites say it did between $655M or $657M
For example Mojo says it did $657M an is a very "reliable" source.
then the wikipedia page of the movie says it did a total of $876M but when you enter in the page it says $657 so i don't know...
[QUOTE=Cruelrain;4956068]I googled as well most sites say it did between $655M or $657M
For example Mojo says it did $657M an is a very "reliable" source.
then the wikipedia page of the movie says it did a total of $876M but when you enter in the page it says $657 so i don't know...[/QUOTE]
Are you confusing the domestic gross versus international gross?
No, it says total worldwide gross = $657M
[QUOTE=Cruelrain;4956084]No, it says total worldwide gross = $657M[/QUOTE]
You could be right. Although it made to the naked eye alot of money, it was considered a flop based on a budget north of million.
[QUOTE=BiteTheBullet;4956078]Are you confusing the domestic gross versus international gross?[/QUOTE]
BvS is what made almost 900 million at 872.7. Maybe that's what you're thinking of.
[QUOTE=BiteTheBullet;4956092]You could be right. Although it made to the naked eye alot of money, it was considered a flop based on a budget north of [B]300 million[/B].[/QUOTE]
Fixed it. Not enough money the first time:-)
[QUOTE=PopQuezy;4956121]BvS is what made almost 900 million at 872.7. Maybe that's what you're thinking of.[/QUOTE]
I think the wikipedia site added an extra 200 million. Damn math!!
Depending on how it looks in the movie, I wouldn’t mind if the lightning-lasso riding makes its way over to the comics.