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You really should stop comparing it to Homecoming, it doesn't do you any favors.
We'll see how much money The Batman does this next weekend since it's the last week of spring break and it still doesn't have competition.
As far as Russia, none of the previous Batman movies or DC movies ever made Joker numbers in Russia, so there is no reason to assume The Batman would. 19 million at most.
And you can keep complaining abour China, but Batman isn't popular over there, and a 3 hour dark movie about crime lacks the spectacle that all the other movies in China have. (This isn't about pathos, just about practicality)
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also can we stop comparing every single piece of batman media with the dark knight, please. i dont think the movie tried to copy or emulate the dark knight at all.[/QUOTE]
I'm not critiquing the movie, I liked the movie. I'm criticizing the marketing, that presented us with a movie about an angry Batman facing a serial killer that taunts him with judgment speeches about how corrupt Gotham is, and discovers how much the mob has it's fingers inside the police. Plus Catwoman on the side talking to Bruce about privilege. The trailers suggested a plot exactly like the Batman movies before, specially The Dark knight, and the stylistic choices they made in the trailer were also in line with the precious entries. I never expected ghis movie to flop, but I knew full well that it wouldn't hit 1 Billion, or even close. And it didn't, nor are there any signs that it would.
I'm excited for a sequel. I liked No man's land and there are a lot of cool things that can still be done
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Is this conversation going to happen every time a DC movie makes money?
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[QUOTE=Alpha;5974070]You really should stop comparing it to Homecoming, it doesn't do you any favors.
We'll see how much money The Batman does this next weekend since it's the last week of spring break and it still doesn't have competition.
As far as Russia, none of the previous Batman movies or DC movies ever made Joker numbers in Russia, so there is no reason to assume The Batman would. 19 million at most.
And you can keep complaining abour China, but Batman isn't popular over there, and a 3 hour dark movie about crime lacks the spectacle that all the other movies in China have. (This isn't about pathos, just about practicality)[/QUOTE]
Policing what I can and can't compare it to when other people have compared it to NWH and you said nothing? Nah, I'll compare the 2 all I want. Care to explain how me comparing them doesn't do me any favors while you're at it?
There was no reason to assume Joker would do what it did in Russia either yet lo and behold it did, besides I'm not guaranteeing it would've done as well as Joker there but SOMETHING from Russia is better than zero dollars.
Proof Batman isn't popular in China? Spider-Man is probably the most popular superhero there and The Dark Knight Rises made more than The Amazing Spider-Man in 2012, TDKR didn't have 3D or the big CGI spectacle China normally likes in blockbusters but it still grossed more than Spider-Man the very same year. That was 10 tears ago, you don't think Batman's popularity has increased at all in China? Green Book in 2017 made $71m there and that isn't a big effects heavy blockbuster, The Batman would've done the same $90-110m every superhero movie makes there.
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[QUOTE=phantom1592;5973789]Yeah, the question is would it be a sequel or a reboot... but we know there will be more Batman :P[/QUOTE]
Hey, as long as it's not [I]Batman & Robin[/I] bad, WB could make profitable Bats films to kingdom come.
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[QUOTE=The Darknight Detective;5974189]Hey, as long as it's not [I]Batman & Robin[/I] bad, WB could make profitable Bats films to [B]kingdom come[/B].[/QUOTE]
I'll never see this in live-action.
[IMG]https://c.tenor.com/LaS8ciJZFDAAAAAM/baby-cry.gif[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Agent Z;5974082]Is this conversation going to happen every time a DC movie makes money?[/QUOTE]
Yes it will
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Not sure why people are on Alpha about his comments. He was right about the box office months ago down to what's now looking like the best case scenario. Same people saying it's perfectly fine not to make a billion (and they are right about that, it still did fantastic) were very critical when he said that the marketing didn't seem like it was for a billion dollar film and that it'd be unlikely for it to reach that milestone.
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The thing I didn't count on was that this movie would have no competition for thr month of March and maybe even the beginning of April. (Uncharted was always gonna have a weak performance, that movie lookedike garbage, and this is coming from a huge fan of the games)
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[QUOTE=The Kid;5974318]Not sure why people are on Alpha about his comments. He was right about the box office months ago down to what's now looking like the best case scenario. Same people saying it's perfectly fine not to make a billion (and they are right about that, it still did fantastic) were very critical when he said that the marketing didn't seem like it was for a billion dollar film and that it'd be unlikely for it to reach that milestone.[/QUOTE]
The problem is trying to forecast a movie in this COVID/war atmosphere. [I]The Batman[/I] three years ago [B]easily[/B] would have been the fourth film with Bruce to make it to a billion in real dollars. That's just not an arguable point, but that was then and this is now.
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There are a bunch of other factors that one could consider. Pre covid, this movie would have a lot more competition, because many more blockbusters would have been filmed and released at this time if there hadn't been a pandemic
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[QUOTE=Agent Z;5974082]Is this conversation going to happen every time a DC movie makes money?[/QUOTE]
Yes.....
Because some folks have hidden agendas (not saying anyone here fit these descriptions mind you).
They see the billion dollar super hero club-with Marvel movies-mainly Cap Marvel & Black Panther. Now toss in Aquaman.
In some folks minds that is not right as to how could those 3-who don't have a TENTH of what Batman has-get billion dollar movies.
Along with the comparing to MCU-where Marvel's trash took DC's top folks to the woodshed. Which in all really stated that there is room for variety.
So for them-if Batman does not make a billion-it's a failure and need to go back to the depression and dark era or certain director's universe.
Ignoring everything many have pointed out about Covid, war and so on. Lets not forget inflation and gas prices.
What Batman has made so far is NOT a joke. Not making a billion is NOT the end of the world. Except to those who REALLY want DC to go out of business because how DARE DC not pander to them.
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I like the movie, I'm not criticizing the movie itself
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[QUOTE=Alpha;5974075]I'm not critiquing the movie, I liked the movie. I'm criticizing the marketing, that presented us with a movie about an angry Batman facing a serial killer that taunts him with judgment speeches about how corrupt Gotham is, and discovers how much the mob has it's fingers inside the police. Plus Catwoman on the side talking to Bruce about privilege. The trailers suggested a plot exactly like the Batman movies before, specially The Dark knight, and the stylistic choices they made in the trailer were also in line with the precious entries. I never expected ghis movie to flop, but I knew full well that it wouldn't hit 1 Billion, or even close. And it didn't, nor are there any signs that it would.
I'm excited for a sequel. I liked No man's land and there are a lot of cool things that can still be done[/QUOTE]
Why are males always so interested how big something is?
It made money. It made what was expected and probably a little more domestically. The World is having issues so it might not make what it could have 5 years ago, but who cares. The ONLY people who care are executives of WB/DC and fan boys who want to bash one thing or the other.
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[QUOTE=Alpha;5974429]There are a bunch of other factors that one could consider. Pre covid, this movie would have a lot more competition, because many more blockbusters would have been filmed and released at this time if there hadn't been a pandemic[/QUOTE]
So does that mean [I]No Way Home[/I] would have made less money in 2019 or does this only apply for [I]The Batman[/I]? ;)