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[QUOTE=master of read;4658257]i'm glad you're enjoying it. i just don't care for storylines like this.
for me, lashley should've been brock's biggest challenger, seeing as how he's done MMA before and had a much better career than brock.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. I thought that was where we going with Smackdown going to Fox.
I thought we going to get
Brock
Lashley
Hager
Velasquez
Maybe even Alberto and Riddle thrown in.
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[QUOTE=master of read;4658331]ditto. great chemistry.
and dustin is just............how can he be that good at 50?[/QUOTE]
When he came back to WWE and lost a TON OF WEIGHT, he started doing things he never could have done before.
He got healthy and is keeping it that way.
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These bumps man. Cornette talks about new wrestlers doing dumb ****
[url]https://twitter.com/grappleclips/status/1189127450153930754?s=21[/url]
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[QUOTE=Immortal Weapon;4658410]These bumps man. Cornette talks about new wrestlers doing dumb ****
[url]https://twitter.com/grappleclips/status/1189127450153930754?s=21[/url][/QUOTE]
I wonder if that one Mulkey broke his tailbone ? That was such a hard landing on concrete. Reminds me of a story from Scott Keith's book. But it involved Johnny "The Bull" in WCW's dying days. He was having a hardcore match and told guys he was gonna do this leg drop to the concrete floor with no mat. The officials told Johnny not to do this and that he would hurt himself. Johnny ignored them and broke his ass on the floor.
[video=youtube;DekRoS74748]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DekRoS74748[/video]
But its hard to tell young guys to stop and not do dangerous spots. I like some of what Darby Allin does in ring. But the stupid idea to do coffin drops on the ring apron will backfire one day and he'll break his back or neck. Even Cornette ripped into this dangerous spot for just dangerous spot to do on TV. Conrad asked about Mick Foley in his early days doing these type of spots and how it cost him in long run.
Cornette said that as Mick became Dude Love and not doing these terrible dangerous spots , he told him how he felt he was letting the audience down. Cornette told him he wasn't and that the audience didn't want to see him hurt himself anymore. That they loved him as the goofy Mankind and Dude Love , where he wasn't trying to do these spots . That he really got over beyond that . Jim doubts Darby can do this since he doesn't want to learn anything given he mocked the WWE Peformance Center . Because they'd teach him to be a full talent who can watch himself in ring.
I mean if Ryback at 35 nearly had back fusion surgery , could you imagine someone like Darby Allin at that age with coffin drops to ring apron ?
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[QUOTE=SUPERECWFAN1;4658464]I wonder if that one Mulkey broke his tailbone ? That was such a hard landing on concrete. Reminds me of a story from Scott Keith's book. But it involved Johnny "The Bull" in WCW's dying days. He was having a hardcore match and told guys he was gonna do this leg drop to the concrete floor with no mat. The officials told Johnny not to do this and that he would hurt himself. Johnny ignored them and broke his ass on the floor.
[video=youtube;DekRoS74748]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DekRoS74748[/video]
But its hard to tell young guys to stop and not do dangerous spots. I like some of what Darby Allin does in ring. But the stupid idea to do coffin drops on the ring apron will backfire one day and he'll break his back or neck. Even Cornette ripped into this dangerous spot for just dangerous spot to do on TV. Conrad asked about Mick Foley in his early days doing these type of spots and how it cost him in long run.
Cornette said that as Mick became Dude Love and not doing these terrible dangerous spots , he told him how he felt he was letting the audience down. Cornette told him he wasn't and that the audience didn't want to see him hurt himself anymore. That they loved him as the goofy Mankind and Dude Love , where he wasn't trying to do these spots . That he really got over beyond that . Jim doubts Darby can do this since he doesn't want to learn anything given he mocked the WWE Peformance Center . Because they'd teach him to be a full talent who can watch himself in ring.
I mean if Ryback at 35 nearly had back fusion surgery , could you imagine someone like Darby Allin at that age with coffin drops to ring apron ?[/QUOTE]
Man, gravity is undefeated.
Fans remember the stories just as much as the high spots. Probably moreso.
When I think of the greats, I rarely think of any risky high spots except for Foley in HITC.
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;4658547]Man, gravity is undefeated.
Fans remember the stories just as much as the high spots. Probably moreso.
When I think of the greats, I rarely think of any risky high spots except for Foley in HITC.[/QUOTE]
There's also the series of ladder and TLC matches between the Hardys, Dudleys and E&C.
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;4658547]Man, gravity is undefeated.
Fans remember the stories just as much as the high spots. Probably moreso.
When I think of the greats, I rarely think of any risky high spots except for Foley in HITC.[/QUOTE]
People remember the super high spots in the WWE MORE because they don't happen in every match every week. I know some people knock the WWE's "safer" style where you try and get over frankly doing as little as possible... but in the long run I think your body will thank yo for it.
Foley Hell in the Cell Bump, or Jeff Hardys Swanton off the 20 foot ladder in TLC is memorable because they're rare moments reserved for big matches. In those instances it was worth it. But risking your career for a high spot in the undercard for a typical weekly show probably won't be. You'll get a nice pop, but a week later everyone will have forgotten about it and moved on because everyone is doing high spots anyways.
For the sake of the business and their own bodies, some of these guys probably should scale some of the high spots back a bit. In the least save it for the BIG matches.
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[QUOTE=HUTHAIFA;4658547]Man, gravity is undefeated.
Fans remember the stories just as much as the high spots. Probably moreso.
When I think of the greats, I rarely think of any risky high spots except for Foley in HITC.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Immortal Weapon;4658561]There's also the series of ladder and TLC matches between the Hardys, Dudleys and E&C.[/QUOTE]
People keep bringing up how Jeff Hardy has fallen off the wagon. But hell given the amount of abuse he put his body through in those TLC matches and bumps he took...its no shock he's doing that.
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[QUOTE=XPac;4658563]People remember the super high spots in the WWE MORE because they don't happen in every match every week. I know some people knock the WWE's "safer" style where you try and get over frankly doing as little as possible... but in the long run I think your body will thank yo for it.
Foley Hell in the Cell Bump, or Jeff Hardys Swanton off the 20 foot ladder in TLC is memorable because they're rare moments reserved for big matches. In those instances it was worth it. But risking your career for a high spot in the undercard for a typical weekly show probably won't be. You'll get a nice pop, but a week later everyone will have forgotten about it and moved on because everyone is doing high spots anyways.
For the sake of the business and their own bodies, some of these guys probably should scale some of the high spots back a bit. In the least save it for the BIG matches.[/QUOTE]
WWE's "safer" style is offset by how often they make their guys wrestle. It's moot how safe the style is designed to be when you have your guys wrestle four times a week and sometimes have them wrestle more than once in the same night with no adequate time for rest. The only time any WWE guy gets time off is if they get hurt. Makes it easier for a guy like Darby to Coffin Drop as much as he wants if at most just has to work once a week.
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[QUOTE=Immortal Weapon;4658603]WWE's "safer" style is offset by how often they make their guys wrestle. It's moot how safe the style is designed to be when you have your guys wrestle four times a week and sometimes have them wrestle more than once in the same night with no adequate time for rest. The only time any WWE guy gets time off is if they get hurt. Makes it easier for a guy like Darby to Coffin Drop as much as he wants if at most just has to work once a week.[/QUOTE]
Back in the 70's territory wrestlers performed everyday, and they still don't get the same sort of injuries that wrestlers now have. Freaking Rock and Roll express are still performing today. But they weren't doing the stuff and regularly taking the bumps which a lot of indy guys now. If they don't learn to get over without doing that to themselves, odds are it will start catching up to them.
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I[QUOTE=SUPERECWFAN1;4657330]I have no problem with cheating angles if done once with a couple and it helps someone get heel heat as its done for Lashley. Plus if its done so over the top silly it works perfect as Heyman has made the angle (making out over Rusev is funny to hear). Plus the whole sex addict line.
One of my favorite couples storylines was the angle ran with Kurt Angle/Jeff Jarrett in TNA. People would post here how disgusted they were by this etc. But what many did realize was , the people involved all had fun with the angle. Kurt had moved on clearly and had no problems doing it. Jeff and Karen was having good heel fun . Even the kids all would show up. One of my favorite segments was where Jeff and family is at dinner tabel and he's supposed to be in pure evil heel mode. The youngest kid is close so he leans over n winks at him to show , "This is for fun..were doing this for fun."
There was so many comical moments with Jeff during this. When he believed he was a MMA star was my all-time favorite.
It was a funny , silly angle and things like this should never leave the business. If everyone is fine with it like the Angle/Jarrett one ..then it should be ok.[/QUOTE]
Man that sucked not because it was offensive it sucked because it sucked. Much like Claire the foot Lynch. Doesn’t matter if AJ and Dix were ok with it, it was fukn garbage. The only good to come from it was unintentional comedy like slap nuts passing out in an ankle sleeper hold.
[QUOTE=master of read;4657871]this whole thing just rubs me the wrong way. i have never liked these kinds of angles, especially with real life couples.
plus, rusev is so damn talented. this is a total waste, regardless of how it's supposed to get him over. it didn't work the last two times. it's not gonna work now.[/QUOTE]
Yep that’s what I’m thinking. Not offended I just don’t believe they have a good exit strategy here. Even if it’s Heyman this was the kind of stuff I didn’t care for in ECW.
[QUOTE=SUPERECWFAN1;4658171]Its rare but you can really build a face to do thi
Take in mind Paul E. once had Tommy Dreamer learn Beluh was cheating on him in a storyline. Then in classic ECW style Dreamer learned she was having an affair with Kimona . Its there Dreamer told Stevie Richards .."I'm man enough to take em both on !"[/QUOTE]
Sweet, because as everyone knows when your girlfriend cheats on you with a woman it means they want to have a threesome with you
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Sweet, because as everyone knows when your girlfriend cheats on you with a woman it means they want to have a threesome with you[/QUOTE]
Lol. Yep a lot of ECW does not age well. When a lot of older wrestler get on the new generation for not selling and taking too many risks, I have to point to ECW for leaving that impression on today's generation.
You never hear a crowd chant WCW or WWE.
My top announce teams.
NWA POWER: Cornette and Galli
NXT: Mauro,Nigel, and Beth.
SMACKDOWN. Cole and Graves.
IMPACT: Matthews and Callus
AEW: Ross,Tony, and Excalibur
Raw:King,Phillips, and Maddin
ROH: Nyquil
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Seth Rollins call WWE fans fickle in the new WWE podcast
[url]https://www.sportskeeda.com/amp/wwe/wwe-news-seth-rollins-opens-up-on-fickle-fans-booing-him[/url]