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[QUOTE=GenericUsername;4774410]And then Feige came out recently and said it wasn't a horror movie, that it'd have some horror elements. So the natural expectation is that they are making it more family friendly. Since it's Disney.[/QUOTE]
While Disney/Marvel inherited The New Mutants from Fox, and thus the horror is baked in, it seems that with the latest trailer Disney isn't adverse to horror provided it was meant to be from the get-go and potential audiences' expectations are thus set up.
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[QUOTE=Ravin' Ray;4774569]While Disney/Marvel inherited The New Mutants from Fox, and thus the horror is baked in, it seems that with the latest trailer Disney isn't adverse to horror provided it was meant to be from the get-go and potential audiences' expectations are thus set up.[/QUOTE]
I don't think they care so much about that one since they didn't make it. They are just throwing it out there. It's not considered in the MCU either.
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[QUOTE=GenericUsername;4774579]I don't think they care so much about that one since they didn't make it. They are just throwing it out there. It's not considered in the MCU either.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. The only reason this and Dark Phoenix got released was because they were already filmed and thus they are obligated to release them. If Fox was bought before either began production, they would've met the same fate as the other Fox projects.
They're basically just getting these out of the way before commencing with the rebooted X-Men in the MCU.
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[QUOTE=Hybrid;4774586]Exactly. The only reason this and Dark Phoenix got released was because they were already filmed and thus they are obligated to release them. If Fox was bought before either began production, they would've met the same fate as the other Fox projects.
They're basically just getting these out of the way before commencing with the rebooted X-Men in the MCU.[/QUOTE]
I hope this isn't going to postpone the mutants' introduction, but I'm positive it has affected it somehow. After watching the latest trailer, it sounded like an intro to the MCU.
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[QUOTE=Force de Phenix;4774737]I hope this isn't going to postpone the mutants' introduction, but I'm positive it has affected it somehow. After watching the latest trailer, it sounded like an intro to the MCU.[/QUOTE]
I doubt that theory is true. I feel like if they were going to make The New Mutants part of the MCU, they would've up and said it, possibly using it as hype to get more people to see the movie. They haven't, and all Feige and Iger have said was that they're going to start fresh with the X-Men with Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool being the only reprisal.
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Scott Derrickson said Doctor Strange 2 was going to be "scary", not a horror film, and also said it will have some "psychedelic weirdness". At SDCC he did say the Doctor Strange comics are "gothic" and "horror" but he never said he was going to do that for his film. It is expected that he might have though considering he has directed horror films before. I don't know anything that happened of course, but my guess is it either had something to do with the release date (he tweeted about this) or the film having to tie into other Disney+ shows.
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Yeah I feel like having to connect with not only one but two TV shows(Feige confirmed Loki is also tying in) must be limiting, cause the idea probably comes from Feige and not him. And the first DS was pretty standalone while MOM seems like it's really about the larger picture and setting up other stuff.
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[QUOTE=Frontier;4774553]All respect to what Derrickson brought to the table for the first movie, but I thought the Russo's did a better job of realizing Strange on-film so I'm kind of fine with a new director coming in.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I think Infinity War and Endgame showed that other directors could realize Strange just as well, if not better.
It would have been cool if Derrickson could have continued on but I don't see it as a big deal for someone else to take over.
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It’s kind of sad you cant get a trilogy anymore that’s more standalone with reference at most to the greater universe.
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[QUOTE=Force de Phenix;4774737]I hope this isn't going to postpone the mutants' introduction, but I'm positive it has affected it somehow. After watching the latest trailer, it sounded like an intro to the MCU.[/QUOTE]
Feige said mutants are five years off. The idea that mutants are in MoM is a fan created one.
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[QUOTE=Blind Wedjat;4774769]Scott Derrickson said Doctor Strange 2 was going to be "scary", not a horror film, and also said it will have some "psychedelic weirdness". At SDCC he did say the Doctor Strange comics are "gothic" and "horror" but he never said he was going to do that for his film. It is expected that he might have though considering he has directed horror films before. I don't know anything that happened of course, but my guess is it either had something to do with the release date (he tweeted about this) or the film having to tie into other Disney+ shows.[/QUOTE]
He described it as gothic horror. Which is like Lovecraft style horror.
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[QUOTE=GenericUsername;4775418]Feige said mutants are five years off. The idea that mutants are in MoM is a fan created one.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, that was before the buyout was official and he was being coy. He hyped mutants for Phase 5 starting in 2022 and they’ve talked about it since, and they’ve confirmed Deadpool 3. Also, Phase 4 has Madripoor and SWORD, so they’re already using new stuff
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[QUOTE=GenericUsername;4775419]He described it as gothic horror. Which is like Lovecraft style horror.[/QUOTE]
He described the Doctor Strange comics as gothic and horror, not his film. Though he might have wanted to do that with his film too. My point is though that Kevin Feige didn't seem to have a problem with that.
[QUOTE=Kevin Feige]“I mean, there are horrifying sequences in Raiders that I as a little kid would [cover my eyes] when their faces melted. Or Temple of Doom, of course, or Gremlins, or Poltergeist,” Feige said. “These are the movies that invented the PG-13 rating, by the way. They were PG and then they were like, ‘We need another [rating].’ But that’s fun. It’s fun to be scared in that way, and not a horrific, torturous way, but a way that is legitimately scary — because Scott Derrickson is quite good at that — but scary in the service of an exhilarating emotion.”[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Hybrid;4775465]To be fair, that was before the buyout was official and he was being coy. He hyped mutants for Phase 5 starting in 2022 and they’ve talked about it since, and they’ve confirmed Deadpool 3. Also, Phase 4 has Madripoor and SWORD, so they’re already using new stuff[/QUOTE]
He said that in April. The deal was finalized in March.
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[QUOTE=Blind Wedjat;4775498]He described the Doctor Strange comics as gothic and horror, not his film. Though he might have wanted to do that with his film too. My point is though that Kevin Feige didn't seem to have a problem with that.[/QUOTE]
This is the full quote. Yes, he was speaking of the comics, but how they related to what he wanted to do for the film. “If I’m gonna do it, it has to go into the territory that drew me into the Doctor Strange comics in the first place, which is how they dipped into the gothic and the horror and the horrific, and we’re gonna make the first scary MCU film.”