A good adaptation can improve upon its source material.
Even DC did it with Aquaman.
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A good adaptation can improve upon its source material.
Even DC did it with Aquaman.
I like how this trolled fans for two years.
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Not really, X-Men got quite a few good movies and was able to go through without hard reboot, that's worthy to give credit to.
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MCU fanboys and nerds are going crazy over this "box office demise", but they cannot rewrite history. Poor guys.
[B]X1
X2
First Class
DOFP
Logan
Deadpool[/B]
... are all regarded as masterpieces of their genre (superhero). And they were big hits.
[B]The Wolverine
Deadpool 2[/B]
... are loved. And they were big hits.
Heck, even some out there realize that "Apocalypse" was a great movie. "The Last Stand" was a great movie. Both the movies were HUGE hits globally.
[QUOTE=BatKeaton;4420795]they cannot rewrite history.[/quote]
[Quote]X1... masterpiece
First Class... big hit[/quote]
[Quote]The Wolverine... loved...big hits.[/quote]
[Quote]Heck, even some out there realize that "Apocalypse" was a great movie. "The Last Stand" was a great movie. Both the movies were HUGE hits globally.[/QUOTE]
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Find a new hobby. In the real life, possibly. This is getting tired.
[QUOTE=BatKeaton;4420795]MCU fanboys and nerds are going crazy over this "box office demise", but they cannot rewrite history. Poor guys.
[B]X1
X2
First Class
DOFP
Logan
Deadpool[/B]
... are all regarded as masterpieces of their genre (superhero). And they were big hits.
[B]The Wolverine
Deadpool 3[/B]
... are loved. And they were big hits.
Heck, even some out there realize that "Apocalypse" was a great movie. "The Last Stand" was a great movie. Both the movies were HUGE hits globally.[/QUOTE]
First Class is my favorite Fox X-Men film but it wasn't a big hit it made a profit that's it same for Apocalypse Dr. Strange made more than 100 million than Apocalypse in 2016 that says something. Oh there is no Deadpool 3.
[QUOTE=Jokerz79;4420821]First Class is my favorite Fox X-Men film but it wasn't a big hit it made a profit that's it same for Apocalypse Dr. Strange made more than 100 million than Apocalypse in 2016 that says something.[/QUOTE]
Apocalypse was a huge success for the X-Men standards, like it or not:
X-Men: Apocalypse grossed $155.4 million in the U.S. and Canada and $388.5 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $543.9 million against a budget of $178 million.[4] The film is the fourth-highest-grossing film in the X-Men series (without adjusting for inflation), behind Deadpool, Logan, and X-Men: Days of Future Past.[98] It made 27% less than Days of Future Past.[99]
First Class was a mild hit. A hit nonetheless...
[QUOTE=BatKeaton;4420825]Apocalypse was a huge success for the X-Men standards, like it or not:
X-Men: Apocalypse grossed $155.4 million in the U.S. and Canada and $388.5 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $543.9 million against a budget of $178 million.[4] The film is the fourth-highest-grossing film in the X-Men series (without adjusting for inflation), behind Deadpool, Logan, and X-Men: Days of Future Past.[98] It made 27% less than Days of Future Past.[99]
First Class was a mild hit. A hit nonetheless...[/QUOTE]
Hit by X-Men standard kind of says it all but not a hit by other franchises standards DC turned Aquaman into a Billion dollar film Fox couldn't do that with one X-Men character.
[QUOTE=Jokerz79;4420829]Hit by X-Men standard kind of says it all but not a hit by other franchises standards DC turned Aquaman into a Billion dollar film Fox couldn't do that with one X-Men character.[/QUOTE]
We don't care. We're talking about X-Men.
[QUOTE=Jokerz79;4420829]Hit by X-Men standard kind of says it all but not a hit by other franchises standards DC turned Aquaman into a Billion dollar film Fox couldn't do that with one X-Men character.[/QUOTE]
He's basically saying the XCU is playing at the kiddie table. He just has some deepdenial on the subject.
[QUOTE=BatKeaton;4420795]MCU fanboys and nerds are going crazy over this "box office demise", but they cannot rewrite history. Poor guys.
[B]X1
X2
First Class
DOFP
Logan
Deadpool[/B]
... are all regarded as masterpieces of their genre (superhero). And they were big hits.
[B]The Wolverine
Deadpool 2[/B]
... are loved. And they were big hits.
Heck, even some out there realize that "Apocalypse" was a great movie. "The Last Stand" was a great movie. Both the movies were HUGE hits globally.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, while I don't like some of the movies and it did have quite a few retcon, it's fine as a franchise.
The biggest problem I'm with XCU is that Emma Frost didn't play a big role and my favorite villain Mr. Sinister didn't make appearance.
[QUOTE=Slowpokeking;4420586]Not really, both MARVEL and DC NEVER care about retcon and consistency at all. Look at any of their issue throughout 20 years pretty much everything has been changed back and forth. As movie materials most of them(beside a few characters and plot) are just meh.
I don't think it's fair to be too harsh on a 19 years old movie franchise over consistency when its original material never cares about it.[/QUOTE]
It's different to not care about consistency when you've been telling stories monthly for 50 years versus telling a movie saga over a much shorter period of time with far less installments.
Comparing the two is kinda silly.
[QUOTE=Theleviathan;4421120]It's different to not care about consistency when you've been telling stories monthly for 50 years versus telling a movie saga over a much shorter period of time with far less installments.
Comparing the two is kinda silly.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter, let's say take a look at any 5 years comic issue, you still can see many retcons and inconsistency.
They simply don't care about it. Let's say the whole Phoenix stuff was inconsistent in the comic.
[QUOTE=Slowpokeking;4421152]Doesn't matter, let's say take a look at any 5 years comic issue, you still can see many retcons and inconsistency.
They simply don't care about it. Let's say the whole Phoenix stuff was inconsistent in the comic.[/QUOTE]
Comparing the two is deeply flawed.
Continuity matters in film and TV for the vast majority of the audience. Comic book readers, not so much.
[QUOTE=Theleviathan;4420946]He's basically saying the XCU is playing at the kiddie table. He just has some deepdenial on the subject.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. I agree.