I would LOVE to see Storm create Acid Rain. Remember when Storm was in another planet and her Lightning turned into ruby quarts like cyclops. This was her first Solo. I’d like to see Storm do something like that
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I would LOVE to see Storm create Acid Rain. Remember when Storm was in another planet and her Lightning turned into ruby quarts like cyclops. This was her first Solo. I’d like to see Storm do something like that
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4120279]I would LOVE to see Storm create Acid Rain. Remember when Storm was in another planet and her Lightning turned into ruby quarts like cyclops. This was her first Solo. I’d like to see Storm do something like that[/QUOTE]
has she canonically ever made acid rain??? I would like to see her do something like that as well. like this is the usher writers should be doing instead of showing her spam lightning all the time.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4120281]has she canonically ever made acid rain??? I would like to see her do something like that as well. like this is the usher writers should be doing instead of showing her spam lightning all the time.[/QUOTE]
I don’t know if she ever has created Acid Rain. I know Thor Did.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4120674]I don’t know if she ever has created Acid Rain. I know Thor Did.[/QUOTE]
wait a minute when? I'm kinda shocked he has done it. when and why did he do that?
Honestly acid rain isn't outside of her range..
[QUOTE=CookieOnTsunami;4120822]Honestly acid rain isn't outside of her range..[/QUOTE]
I was just reading about acid rain and its formation. sulfur and nitrogen oxides mix with water to form this. unless these compounds were already present in the atmosphere how would she able go create it?
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4120762]wait a minute when? I'm kinda shocked he has done it. when and why did he do that?[/QUOTE]
Thor made it Rain Fire. Not Acid. My Bad, but I don’t think Storm can do neither of that on Earth. Now, if Storm is on another planet then Yes I believe she can.
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[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4120968]Thor made it Rain Fire. Not Acid. My Bad, but I don’t think Storm can do neither of that on Earth. Now, if Storm is on another planet then Yes I believe she can.
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thanks boo and no problem. I was gone say. making acid rain would seem more up ororo alley being she is all versatile and would try different ways to use her power.
so basically u think she cant make acid rain cause those components that make it acid are not there?
sn: gurlie we gone have to figure this small image thing out. we cant take that into 2019 ok lol
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4121004]thanks boo and no problem. I was gone say. making acid rain would seem more up ororo alley being she is all versatile and would try different ways to use her power.
so basically u think she cant make acid rain cause those components that make it acid are not there?
sn: gurlie we gone have to figure this small image thing out. we cant take that into 2019 ok lol[/QUOTE]
I don’t believe she can on Earth No, but on another planet or dimension most definitely she can. If Storm really wanted to make it rain Acid on Earth she would need to somehow change the molecular structure of rain into an acidic compound that also means changing the atmosphere causing acid rain. Since Acid Rain does not exactly exist as a natural occurrence Storm is going to need to be extremely creative AND change the molecules of water into something else.
Except acid rain does exist in nature. Due to unnatural pollution, the elements are already at hand. Ororo should be able to concentrate the pollutants to create acid rain from the existing atmospheric constituents. Even in an environment that was pristine, I think Ororo could manipulate the pH of rain directly by manipulating the hydrogen's ionic charge.
[QUOTE=The Kid;4118671]This is what I think is the best. Need someone with significant gravitas and presence but have the ability to also be soft and compassionate. I can't really think of a big name who really fits and there's a lot of talented black female actors out there who are unknown and have been limited by Hollywood racism. A newcomer would be a good choice to find the perfect Storm[/QUOTE]
Has to be an established actor. She won't have a solo film, so she cannot get her spotlight like the Chrises and Chadwick. This is an ensemble show, she needs to have a high profile actor to portray her that is both effective and can command scenes/lines (like Halle back in the day) or she'll just be another Alexandra Shipp who is a glorified extra alongside all the other X-Men that are portrayed by not so famous actors..
[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;4118794]It gonna be Beyonce.[/QUOTE]
I love Beyonce's influence, and could potentially thrust Storm's profile. However, she cannot act. She will just become Storm playing Beyonce rather than Beyonce playing Storm.
The MCU has cast a lot of low-medium profile/up-and-coming actors for their main cast(for the most part elevating them in the process; Thor and Cap are still the highest profile roles for Hemsworth and Evans, for example). At this point the brand has supreme loyalty and some leverage to work. I think they could cast a newbie/unknown for Ororo and still make her a star. Who was Shuri's actress before BP? People loved her regardless. As with Hugh and Wolverine, the character can elevate the actor.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4120267]when you say chemical science what do you mean by this? like her creating acid rain, combustion attacks or something like that?[/QUOTE]
Like a scene where she kind of explains the forces her energy sight allows her to perceive and ultimately to manipulate to a hot nerd like Beast or Shuri. She can talk about heat exchange/thermal energy, pressure gradients, air mass and its composition, electromagnetism, water vapor/hydrologic cycle, gravitic forces (like the pulling of the moon on the tides), how they are all connected in nature, etc. This is just a way to introduce the complexity and versatility of her powerset.
Acid raid is also a cool idea. Like in Ellis’s run where she could sense the chemical composition of the rain and knew it was acidic. I agree with Yoga. Atmospheric pollutants, unfortunately, has become part of the standard make up for the atmosphere (most areas aren’t as dangerous/toxic as others), so Storm should be able to coalesce and concentrate those particles to create acid rain or toxic fog.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4120968]Thor made it Rain Fire. Not Acid. My Bad, but I don’t think Storm can do neither of that on Earth. Now, if Storm is on another planet then Yes I believe she can.
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I thought this was pretty bad a$$. I think it is also a clean distinction between Thor’s magical weather powers vs Storm manipulation of the forces of nature (the need to impose limits to keep from creating a massive catastrophe). Maybe that could come up in an Avengers/X-Men crossover, but also a good point to make these characters not feel like their abilities are redundant/overlap since they can create the same or similar effects in different ways but one has very clear consequences if not done with care and precision. They can also hint at her space weather abilites, as well as the ability to control the atmospheric forces on other planets.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;4121053]Except acid rain does exist in nature. Due to unnatural pollution, the elements are already at hand. Ororo should be able to concentrate the pollutants to create acid rain from the existing atmospheric constituents. Even in an environment that was pristine, I think Ororo could manipulate the pH of rain directly by manipulating the hydrogen's ionic charge.[/QUOTE]
Really?? Hmm interesting. Then if it does exist as a natural occurrence through pollution. Then she is going really need to concentrate on this Feat.
[QUOTE=Wind Rider;4121436]I thought this was pretty bad a$$. I think it is also a clean distinction between Thor’s magical weather powers vs Storm manipulation of the forces of nature (the need to impose limits to keep from creating a massive catastrophe). Maybe that could come up in an Avengers/X-Men crossover, but also a good point to make these characters not feel like their abilities are redundant/overlap since they can create the same or similar effects in different ways but one has very clear consequences if not done with care and precision. They can also hint at her space weather abilites, as well as the ability to control the atmospheric forces on other planets.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you I hope that is explained in the MCU.
Zendaya could become Storm.
Storm needs a new costume, her X-Men Red costume is underwhelming.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;4121077]The MCU has cast a lot of low-medium profile/up-and-coming actors for their main cast(for the most part elevating them in the process; Thor and Cap are still the highest profile roles for Hemsworth and Evans, for example). At this point the brand has supreme loyalty and some leverage to work. I think they could cast a newbie/unknown for Ororo and still make her a star. Who was Shuri's actress before BP? People loved her regardless. As with Hugh and Wolverine, the character can elevate the actor.[/QUOTE]
She's already in the Disney play house.
Though again I would love someone new, hight and skin color appropriate. Beyonce being Storm would probably break the internet.
[QUOTE=the_whitequeen;4121592]Zendaya could become Storm.
Storm needs a new costume, her X-Men Red costume is underwhelming.[/QUOTE]
Pretty sure Zendaya is busy
As for the acid rain. I can only remember two times she dealt with it. One in her solo and another X-Men issue. Been looking for the scans. I believe in the X-Men issue. She mentioned how the city pollution helps her makes the acid rain. And her solo not sure if she created it or just "felt" the acid coming.
In her Ellis mini it was both. She summoned the rain storm once she areived to The Hill and then sensed the composition of the rain being acidic. The only other time I recall was in the backstory issue where she encountered Dr.Doom and had attacked him in error. She either flew into or summoned a storm near a factory that had pumped a bunch of pollutants into the air that caused the acid rain.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;4121053]Except acid rain does exist in nature. Due to unnatural pollution, the elements are already at hand. Ororo should be able to concentrate the pollutants to create acid rain from the existing atmospheric constituents. Even in an environment that was pristine, I think Ororo could manipulate the pH of rain directly by manipulating the hydrogen's ionic charge.[/QUOTE]
I agree with the pH portion being manipulated to create acid rain. I understand there are pollutants in the air; however, I don't think there is enough to be effective in battle. if this were the people would never be able to go outside when it rains. At most it would be an irritant to the skin. If she were to utilize your method by increasing the amount of hydrogen ions then this would make more sense as she can't put things in the air/water that isn't there.
[QUOTE=Wind Rider;4121425]Like a scene where she kind of explains the forces her energy sight allows her to perceive and ultimately to manipulate to a hot nerd like Beast or Shuri. She can talk about heat exchange/thermal energy, pressure gradients, air mass and its composition, electromagnetism, water vapor/hydrologic cycle, gravitic forces (like the pulling of the moon on the tides), how they are all connected in nature, etc. This is just a way to introduce the complexity and versatility of her powerset.
Acid raid is also a cool idea. Like in Ellis’s run where she could sense the chemical composition of the rain and knew it was acidic. I agree with Yoga. Atmospheric pollutants, unfortunately, has become part of the standard make up for the atmosphere (most areas aren’t as dangerous/toxic as others), so Storm should be able to coalesce and concentrate those particles to create acid rain or toxic fog.[/QUOTE]
Ok all of your points make sense about what a discussion would look like. Your point about most areas not being dangerous/toxic is why I don't think using the pollutants in the air would work. I think the second part of what Yoga mentioned would be more effective which is manipulating the hydrogen ions in way that would make the water more acidic. Hydrogen being more abundant in air by way of water would make this feat more easy to produce, unless she was in an area where there larger concentration of pollution.
To the points about toxins in the atmosphere, if she were making acidic rain by
[QUOTE=the_whitequeen;4121592]Zendaya could become Storm.
Storm needs a new costume, her X-Men Red costume is underwhelming.[/QUOTE]
EEHHHHH.. I'm not feeling her at ALL. As mentioned she is already in the MCU as Mary Jane I think.
[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;4121980]As for the acid rain. I can only remember two times she dealt with it. One in her solo and another X-Men issue. Been looking for the scans. I believe in the X-Men issue. She mentioned how the city pollution helps her makes the acid rain. And her solo not sure if she created it or just "felt" the acid coming.[/QUOTE]
I can find the solo instance and post later; however, do you happen to recall the Xmen issue? Was it uncanny xmen or some other title.
[QUOTE=Wind Rider;4122091]In her Ellis mini it was both. She summoned the rain storm once she areived to The Hill and then sensed the composition of the rain being acidic. The only other time I recall was in the backstory issue where she encountered Dr.Doom and had attacked him in error. She either flew into or summoned a storm near a factory that had pumped a bunch of pollutants into the air that caused the acid rain.[/QUOTE]
Hey love do you have the issue numbers to these so that I can read them?
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4122098]Hey love do you have the issue numbers to these so that I can read them?[/QUOTE]
For the Doom story I need to do some digging but for the Storm mini it was issue #2:
[url]https://uncannyxmen.net/comics/issue/storm-1st-series-2[/url]
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I found the issue where she was able to sense the sulfuric acid in the rain. to make acidic rain on earth I think the concentration of sulfur or nitrogen oxide would have to be enough to make acid rain. now aside from the manipulating hydrogen ions she could also manipulate the nitrogen and oxygen in a way to create nitrogen oxide within the water to make it acidic. so I could see her replicating this one earth.
[QUOTE=Wind Rider;4122110]For the Doom story I need to do some digging but for the Storm mini it was issue #2:
[url]https://uncannyxmen.net/comics/issue/storm-1st-series-2[/url][/QUOTE]
oh thank you rider for sending this. let me know if you come across the other issue.
age of xmen team with storm. I like her ensemble:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwU7hF1UUAEx2jY.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Wind Rider;4122110]For the Doom story I need to do some digging but for the Storm mini it was issue #2:
[url]https://uncannyxmen.net/comics/issue/storm-1st-series-2[/url][/QUOTE]
hey rider I found the second one. storm encountered acid rain in marvel comic presents issue 48. however, in this issue she didnt sense that it was acid rain. she didnt figure it out until after she was burned by it.
[img]http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/scans20/MCP48_Storm.jpg[/img]
[img]https://2.bp.blogspot.com/VdcNmJrRwqIDL2C02dqeVLw_V_rbapR_Dwm_RnjYHRCnMBqpWAtlUGKO6BlkpMvOThNqADP6CjTq=s1600[/img]
[QUOTE=the_whitequeen;4121592]Zendaya could become Storm.
Storm needs a new costume, her X-Men Red costume is underwhelming.[/QUOTE]
Ayyaaaaaaaaaaa No. Storm is a darkskin woman with Kenyan origins and a lil bit of Harlem plz stop.
[QUOTE=angrt1;4122202]Ayyaaaaaaaaaaa No. Storm is a darkskin woman with Kenyan origins and a lil bit of Harlem plz stop.[/QUOTE]
well. i didn't want to say nothing but glad you did.
[QUOTE=angrt1;4122202]Ayyaaaaaaaaaaa No. Storm is a darkskin woman with Kenyan origins and a lil bit of Harlem plz stop.[/QUOTE]
I understand your demand for a more ethnically accurate Storm, but what I want first is a good actress!
And if possible with good dialogs and a little character development, that would already be an improvement!
No more bland Storm!
[QUOTE=mogwen;4122251]I understand your demand for a more ethnically accurate Storm, but what I want first is a good actress!
And if possible with good dialogs and a little character development, that would already be an improvement!
No more bland Storm![/QUOTE]
do you think the actresses we got were good? Halle and Alex Shipp? it seemed the requirement after halle was tailored to mixed looking women as opposed to finding the right actress. I would love to have seen the casting call for that role. "female, late teens/early 20s, mixed looking woman or someone who looks like beyonce or rihanna." I wouldn't be surprised if it read something like that.
nevertheless, i'm sure there are plenty of dark-skinned chocolate young women/women that marvel can find to meet the task. they (marvel) just have to put in the work to find a good actress.
[QUOTE=the_whitequeen;4121592]Zendaya could become Storm.[/QUOTE]
Luckily Zendaya is already cast as MJ in the Spider-Man films. Even if they are actually Sony productions, I don't think the MCU would double dip like that.
Furthermore, I don't want anymore biracial actresses as Ororo. Even if Zendaya is taller, she is far too light for Ororo.
[QUOTE=yogaflame;4122566]Luckily Zendaya is already cast as MJ in the Spider-Man films. Even if they are actually Sony productions, I don't think the MCU would double dip like that.
Furthermore, I don't want anymore biracial actresses as Ororo. Even if Zendaya is taller, she is far too light for Ororo.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=mogwen;4122251]I understand your demand for a more ethnically accurate Storm, but what I want first is a good actress!
And if possible with good dialogs and a little character development, that would already be an improvement!
No more bland Storm![/QUOTE]
Even if said actress is a lightskinned biracial woman, playing a dark skinned black woman? Idk bout y'all but I'm ready for Storm to look like ME.
[QUOTE=CookieOnTsunami;4123430]Even if said actress is a lightskinned biracial woman, playing a dark skinned black woman? Idk bout y'all but I'm ready for Storm to look like ME.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. I've been waiting for Storm to look like me for almost 20 years! I can't believe Black Panther gave me that representation first and it's not even a year old.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4122132]age of xmen team with storm. I like her ensemble:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwU7hF1UUAEx2jY.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
So quick and resourceful Kyss :). Those are the instances. I think acid rain or toxic fog would likely need to be strategically used and would require a lot of concentration to gather enough of the pollutants to make it intense/effective.
And this art....not bad but rather...dull/plain Jane. I liked the previous art better. I can’t wait for this crap story to be over.
I wish I could find the scan of Storm and the acid rain.
The fact that she could do made the terrigen mist so much crap. Strom would of just rain it out. Hopefully in a giant silo.
[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4122132]age of xmen team with storm. I like her ensemble:
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwU7hF1UUAEx2jY.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I like that everyone looks cool and different, but Jean looks....boring. Like she is from the 50's
[QUOTE=Wind Rider;4123663]So quick and resourceful Kyss :). Those are the instances. I think acid rain or toxic fog would likely need to be strategically used and would require a lot of concentration to gather enough of the pollutants to make it intense/effective.
And this art....not bad but rather...dull/plain Jane. I liked the previous art better. I can’t wait for this crap story to be over.[/QUOTE]
awww thank you boo. you gave me enough information to do my investigative work lol. and yes agreed to the application of the acid rain. its definitely something I would like to see her use now especially seeing she understands composition wise what would be needed to replicate such a feat.
as far as the art I liked it and think ororo look is nice. I dont mind Jean's look either I think it's cute lol. I curious as to how they will be written and if this is actually canon storm or would be considered an alt universe storm.
[QUOTE=BlkGldBlu;4123700]I wish I could find the scan of Storm and the acid rain.
The fact that she could do made the terrigen mist so much crap. Strom would of just rain it out. Hopefully in a giant silo.[/QUOTE]
I posted two scans of the acid rain were none of those the ones you were talking about? and dont even get me started on the terrigen mist garbage. from the cloud to her not wanting to go to war all of it was a disaater.
[QUOTE=stormphoenix;4123866]I like that everyone looks cool and different, but Jean looks....boring. Like she is from the 50's[/QUOTE]
I love the retro look I guess I'm the only one lol