Jason Todd: Robin, Red Hood, Arkham Knight Appreciation 2019

[QUOTE=Sergard;4136714]As a side note: The OP nearly reached the limit of 10000 characters. I still can delete some quotes or outsource information in extra posts if necessary, so everything is fine. But somehow I'm surprised that 10000 characters aren't enough to stuff everything in one post. (Although I probably overdid it a little bit with the quotes.)

As a second side note: I saw in the Wonder Woman subforum that WW fans are going to start a [URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?120292-The-Wonder-Woman-Golden-Age-Reread"]WW Golden Age reread[/URL].

Maybe we could do the same for Jason, starting with his pre-crisis first appearance in Batman #357? (And then switch between Batman and Detective Comics so that we follow the right chronology)
I haven't checked it yet, but at least #357 can be bought digitally on ReadDC and Comixology for 1,99$. Does anybody know if there have been sales for old Batman or Detective Comics issues in the past?[/QUOTE]

I guess we could. I'm probably going to have to wait for post-Crisis, but I'm all in for a reading club.

I've been meaning to reread his Robin stuff but couldn't find the time to do in one sitting. A reading club sounds like a good idea.

More YJJAY

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[QUOTE=Sergard;4136714]As a side note: The OP nearly reached the limit of 10000 characters. I still can delete some quotes or outsource information in extra posts if necessary, so everything is fine. But somehow I'm surprised that 10000 characters aren't enough to stuff everything in one post. (Although I probably overdid it a little bit with the quotes.)

As a second side note: I saw in the Wonder Woman subforum that WW fans are going to start a [URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?120292-The-Wonder-Woman-Golden-Age-Reread"]WW Golden Age reread[/URL].

Maybe we could do the same for Jason, starting with his pre-crisis first appearance in Batman #357? (And then switch between Batman and Detective Comics so that we follow the right chronology)
I haven't checked it yet, but at least #357 can be bought digitally on ReadDC and Comixology for 1,99$. Does anybody know if there have been sales for old Batman or Detective Comics issues in the past?[/QUOTE]

Most if not all of them are in Comixology. First appearance, dead parents, returning to the circus to solve a mystery, moving in to the manor, first time donning the costume, dying his hair, adoption, Dick giving his blessing, Man-Bat kidnapping, the whole Nocturna arc, Crisis, the whole Catwoman and Harvey Bullock arc... those are the ones I've seen. The only one I haven't checked is the Teen Titans issues...
Oh and of course For The Man Who Has Everything is there too.

[QUOTE=Sergard;4134113]There is already a short fanfic using the reveal in Young Justice:

[URL="https://archiveofourown.org/works/17403809"]Gray...son?[/URL] by Qais[/QUOTE]
That's a nice little story. Great find!

[QUOTE=Sergard;4136714]Maybe we could do the same for Jason, starting with his pre-crisis first appearance in Batman #357? (And then switch between Batman and Detective Comics so that we follow the right chronology)[/QUOTE]
That sounds like a great idea!
Since I'll be starting with Jason's post-crisis stuff, I'll only be able to participate then, but it'll be worth the wait.
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Wow, writers and artists jumped on the YJ stuff incredibly fast! So much has appeared in less than a week!

Are the ones with Nocturna pre or post Crisis? Because I was thinking about reading them, because the sumary looks interesting, but I don't know what issues or TP I should look for.

[QUOTE=Zaresh;4137934]Are the ones with Nocturna pre or post Crisis? Because I was thinking about reading them, because the sumary looks interesting, but I don't know what issues or TP I should look for.[/QUOTE]

Nocturna is pre-crisis. Her first appearance is in Detective Comics #529. And for comparison: pre-crisis Jason appears in Detective Comics the first time in #524.

[QUOTE=Sergard;4138113]Nocturna is pre-crisis. Her first appearance is in Detective Comics #529. And for comparison: pre-crisis Jason appears in Detective Comics the first time in #524.[/QUOTE]

Oh, Ok. I guess I'll be here for some of the pre-Crisis too.

[QUOTE=Sergard;4136714]
As a second side note: I saw in the Wonder Woman subforum that WW fans are going to start a [URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?120292-The-Wonder-Woman-Golden-Age-Reread"]WW Golden Age reread[/URL].

Maybe we could do the same for Jason, starting with his pre-crisis first appearance in Batman #357? (And then switch between Batman and Detective Comics so that we follow the right chronology)
I haven't checked it yet, but at least #357 can be bought digitally on ReadDC and Comixology for 1,99$. Does anybody know if there have been sales for old Batman or Detective Comics issues in the past?[/QUOTE]

That sound like a great idea. I'm all for it.

The final cover of Teen Titans Annual #1. I still have no idea what's going on. And judging by Jason's body language on the cover, he hasn't either.

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That’s more or less what I imagine the aftermath of the TTs drinking to much looks like

Come to think of it, Jason is one of the few people that can actually take on the likes of Djinn and come out on top, thanks to his All Blades. Crush though, not sure how he would counter a Czarnian (even if she is only half). Wallace is still a rookie speedster, and I'd be surprised if Jason didn't have some sort of counter for one.

But I do have to wonder; was it Jason that was working with Damian? Or was it this Wingman person that's running around?

[QUOTE=Arsenal;4139064]That’s more or less what I imagine the aftermath of the TTs drinking to much looks like[/QUOTE]

Afterwards, young Jason Todd vowed to never condone or encourage underage drinking again, particularly Damian's. Having never seen Bruce drunk and having fond memories of drinking with Talia, he didn't anticipate that the Waynes all become teetotalers for a reason. He does now.

He does now.

Still, traumatic as it was, he filed the memory of the experience away. Life has taught him that having a berserker drunk in his back pocket is a great way to take down unsuspecting enemies.

(The story we aren't getting, but the one Jason deserves.)

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That’s nice.

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Beautiful. I wish there were a better pic for coloring it. But I guess I just have to wait for the cover.

Oh, but now that I think about it, this is just perfect in just B&W.

Really a beautiful illustration.

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Ooooh I saw that before but I didnt know it was a cover, its beautiful! I wonder if Scalera will be doing any more covers :)

Beautiful!! Really wish Scalera would stay for some 6 issues like he did before.

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Very nice. Love the sepia tone this has.

[QUOTE=RedBird;4139802]Ooooh I saw that before but I didnt know it was a cover, its beautiful! I wonder if Scalera will be doing any more covers :)[/QUOTE]

I think this color would look great issued in this sepia tone, without color.

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Haha the tiny eyes on the visor emoting! Jason looks so done. S is for sword. What they teach at League school. :D

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Has the colored version been posted yet?

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I feel this is appropriate.

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[QUOTE=G-Potion;4142124]Has the colored version been posted yet?

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Honestly I love both, I want both copies, sepia and coloured. :)

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Of course the dog would get fanart too.

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The dog is great and in my eyes already a nonofficial member of the outlaws. I'll be so mad if anything happens to her. And Jason probably too.
Here's a quote from last year's appreciation thread. It's kinda fitting.

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[QUOTE=RedBird;4142243]Honestly I love both, I want both copies, sepia and coloured. :)[/QUOTE]

I think I like the cover in sepia more, but honestly, the coloured version is beautiful too. Damn good variant.

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As expected, jjmk delivers. That's a really good looking Nightwing, btw.

[QUOTE=Sergard;4138687]The final cover of Teen Titans Annual #1. I still have no idea what's going on. And judging by Jason's body language on the cover, he hasn't either.

[IMG]https://www.previewsworld.com/SiteImage/CatalogImage/STL106031?type=1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

While I'm looking forward to this it would be great if writers gave us more arcs where the family aren't fighting. Successful team ups, explore relationships, develop relationships. More looking out for each other than fighting.

[QUOTE=dietrich;4143712]While I'm looking forward to this it would be great if writers gave us more arcs where the family aren't fighting. Successful team ups, explore relationships, develop relationships. More looking out for each other than fighting.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, we should have at least seen them working together first. What was it, a single panel of them together?

[QUOTE=dietrich;4143712]While I'm looking forward to this it would be great if writers gave us more arcs where the family aren't fighting. Successful team ups, explore relationships, develop relationships. More looking out for each other than fighting.[/QUOTE]

I think a few moments of the family not fighting is only the stuff of dreams. Although I hope this cover is misleading.

And we're up again

83. RED HOOD OUTLAW #29 (DC COMICS) [86]

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[QUOTE=oasis1313;4143880]I think a few moments of the family not fighting is only the stuff of dreams. Although I hope this cover is misleading.[/QUOTE]

Well, RHatO Rebirth Annual did have a good team up of Jason, Dick, Artemis, and Biz. After they got Dick to dress up as a clown. lol

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4145262]And we're up again

83. RED HOOD OUTLAW #29 (DC COMICS) [86]

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Yaaaay! Wondering how much it did last month.

I imagine with Jason popping up in Young Justice (one of the most anticipated series for 2019), along with a good showing in Batman Ninja, and of course the ever spreading popularity of Under the Red Hood, I imagine Jason's fandom will continue to grow.

[QUOTE=okiedokiewo;4143844]Yeah, we should have at least seen them working together first. What was it, a single panel of them together?[/QUOTE]

It's pathetic. You would think that after seeing fan reaction to stuff like the Bat Burger scene or Nightwing must die or The Red Hood Annual editorial would get a clue and give us a little more positive contact.

DC always leaving money on the table. They could do much with these characters.

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4145262]And we're up again

83. RED HOOD OUTLAW #29 (DC COMICS) [86]

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Awesome!! :D

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4145262]And we're up again

83. RED HOOD OUTLAW #29 (DC COMICS) [86]

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What do you mean by "up"?

Red Hood: Outlaw #28 had the quantity rank 83 in November too.
[url]https://www.diamondcomics.com/Home/1/1/3/597?articleID=221911[/url]

Although the dollar rank went down from 85 to 86 but that's not really important.
And I don't think we can say anything about the index changing from 25.79 to 26.32 since it's only the relation of sold copies compared to the sold copies of a control title (in November: Batman #58, in December: Batman #60). But the index doesn't tell us anything about the absolute number of sold RH:O #29 copies.

I think we'll have to wait for an update on comichron.

And Diamond should really change the "About the Diamond Sales Index" section at the end of the webpage because "Convergence #8" was published in 2015 and I'm pretty sure that using that title as control title was only a one-time thing.

[QUOTE=Sergard;4145909]What do you mean by "up"?[/QUOTE]It is at least relativity stable on a much higher spot then before the new direction.

Also intersting that it is now above ADVENTURES OF THE SUPER SONS, since the last Super Sons Series sold usually better than RHatO.