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[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4328800]Crap, issue 33 didn't made into the top 100.[/QUOTE]
Saw it. It's weird. Nightwing too, was lower than usual, and other books you usually see in different places of the list.
I would wait for the Comichron list and numbers before starting to feel pesimistic :/.
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4328936]Saw it. It's weird. [/QUOTE]Not really there are a lot of #1 issues in the list, which pushes the books on the low end of the list a few places down. Most of these books will drop out of the Top 100 quite soon, and the other books will climb up a few places again.
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4328069]Which is why I think that's nonsense. Whoever gave those measures, didn't know what they were giving measures to.[/QUOTE]
According to the DC Comics Ultimate Character Guide, Harley Quinn has a BMI of 18. That's already slightly underweight.
That's so strange. Harley has a very athletic body (like most other females in comics) but she looks well-fed enough to assume that her BMI is in the normal range.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4328968]According to the DC Comics Ultimate Character Guide, Harley Quinn has a BMI of 18. That's already slightly underweight.
That's so strange. Harley has a very athletic body (like most other females in comics) but she looks well-fed enough to assume that her BMI is in the normal range.[/QUOTE]Some of the stats are questionable, and some characters have to sets of stats that were frequently used. Harley is for example listed some times at 115lb and sometimes at 140 lbs.
Damians stats in that book are really wired, he is 5'4'' (wich would make him 10 inches taller than Jon) but they left his wight an iirc 84lbs., (previousy he was listed at 4'6'' and 84 lbs.)
In case of Jason i like he idea of him being bulkier and stronger than Bruce, even if thats doesn't really matches the art. I also don' think that it would be a problem with "how flexible and light he has to fight".
[QUOTE=Aahz;4328952]Not really there are a lot of #1 issues in the list, which pushes the books on the low end of the list a few places down. Most of these books will drop out of the Top 100 quite soon, and the other books will climb up a few places again.[/QUOTE]
Oh, might be that. And the events, too, I guess.
[QUOTE=Aahz;4328980]Some of the stats are questionable, and some characters have to sets of stats that were frequently used. Harley is for example listed some times at 115lb and sometimes at 140 lbs.
Damians stats in that book are really wired, he is 5'4'' (wich would make him 10 inches taller than Jon) but they left his wight an iirc 84lbs., (previousy he was listed at 4'6'' and 84 lbs.)
In case of Jason i like he idea of him being bulkier and stronger than Bruce, even if thats doesn't really matches the art. I also don' think that it would be a problem with "how flexible and light he has to fight".[/QUOTE]
Well, this is how I see it, and of course, this is superhero fictional stories and you need to work with the suspension of disbelief: so it really doesn't matter how they look. But for the sake of explaining myself, this is how I work with how they should look for me to feel they're somehow "right".
I don't know about other sports, but people who do gymnastics, even when they're built, heavy, very muscular (male and female alike, even if the women tend to be slimmer than they need for whatever reason) aren't very big. Even the guys, who are very, very bulky in the upper half. Same happens with dancers, and people who do roller skating (three activities that demand a lot of jumps, spins and the like while being on the move. Like being a vigilante the kind of Jason, Tim or Dick would. Steph, Barbara and Cass too, rely on the same type of tricks and moves as far as I know).
I am going to guess that's because two reasons. First one, because when you're very heavy, you need to move that weight with yourself, that means you need to put your own body under a lot of stress, and that doesn't go well with the heart and the rick of developing some cardiovascular disease by wearing out the system.
Second one, because the more the surface you take up, the bigger of a target you are, the more you need to cover yourself, etc. I know that muscles make for a wonderful cushion (they saved my uncle once in an accident, and he wasn't even that fit), but they still bleed and they wear armour anyways, so it really doesn't matter how much muscle they hold that way.
I'll be honest about another thing too: I don't know if being flexible is incompatible with being bulky. My intuition says yes, but I don't know why or if it's true. And I also dislike bulky-like-a-brick body types, so there is that too, as for why I don't like the idea of Jason being bulkier than the already-too-big-but-thats-ok-because-archetypes Bruce.
We're back to pre Outlaw numbers
105. RED HOOD OUTLAW #32 (DC) - 18,389 [105]
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4329499]We're back to pre Outlaw numbers
105. RED HOOD OUTLAW #32 (DC) - 18,389 [105][/QUOTE]
Well, that's actually surprising. I thought #32 would do better. If I remember correctly, the issue even reached 3rd place on readdc's Top 10 Bestsellers in its release week. Seems like digital and print sales don't have to correlate.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4329571]Well, that's actually surprising. I thought #32 would do better. If I remember correctly, the issue even reached 3rd place on readdc's Top 10 Bestsellers in its release week. Seems like digital and print sales don't have to correlate.[/QUOTE]
Maybe someone knows better than myself, but If I recall correctly, RHATO has been doing well digitally for a long while (probably because people like myself). There are other books that do well both, and books, few, that do way better digital than physical. I guess it depends on the target audience. I suspect the younger, the more digital. Same for niche oriented series. In any case, digital market is still small, I think. It is bigger in places like Japan, though.
In any case, maybe we will get a little lift for #33, when people would've gotten notice of the coming back to Gotham.
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But apart from some extreme cases like the injustice comics, that were usually top 5 sellers digitally, but had pretty poor sales physically, the digital sales are not really a huge factor. And the RHTAO postion on the comixology charts is usually correlates with the physical sales.
To really bring up the sales again, they would probably need to do some kind of bigger event/crossover (similar to what they did with Deathstroke).
There are some worrying rumors about the upcoming YOV special making the rounds.
[SPOIL]Word is that it heavily implies that Jason is indeed Leviathan and that somehow convinces Barbara to work with him[/SPOIL]
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4331356]There are some worrying rumors about the upcoming YOV special making the rounds.
[SPOIL]Word is that it heavily implies that Jason is indeed Leviathan and that somehow convinces Barbara to work with him[/SPOIL][/QUOTE]
The only way that makes sense would be if he’s one of B-man who Laughs Secret Six. Yet it wouldn’t make any sense to pick a character that has an ongoing solo(ish) book for a member of the S6.
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4331356]There are some worrying rumors about the upcoming YOV special making the rounds.
[SPOIL]Word is that it heavily implies that Jason is indeed Leviathan and that somehow convinces Barbara to work with him[/SPOIL][/QUOTE]
Can I have source?
The rumor sounds more like some new fake info from 4chan or somewhere else.
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4331485]The only way that makes sense would be if he’s one of B-man who Laughs Secret Six. Yet it wouldn’t make any sense to pick a character that has an ongoing solo(ish) book for a member of the S6.[/QUOTE]
I had a similar thought. But for Barbara. She's behaving strange in HiC.
Do we know anything about the Secret Six? I know that they are sleepers and that they are known heroes, or? And they are part of the Batman Who Laughs' plan. But what are they supposed to do?
The YOV specially coming out tomorrow should (in theory) clear up the purpose behind the S6. At the moment it seems very “Secret Invasion” ish minus the little green aliens.
[QUOTE=G-Potion;4331508]Can I have source?[/QUOTE]
4chan, same guy that leaked HiC #8 in advance.
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4331485]The only way that makes sense would be if he’s one of B-man who Laughs Secret Six. Yet it wouldn’t make any sense to pick a character that has an ongoing solo(ish) book for a member of the S6.[/QUOTE]
but jason being leviathan was rumor since last August! they wanted one of the batfamily member probably one of the robins and jason was the most logical chose, as for barbra being rope into this is whats worries me.
I don't know if it really bothers me. This Leviathan seems to want to make the organization useful to all, but through misguided methods, if I remember right what I read about the event being promoted by Bendis. I could totally see Jason doing it.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4331515]The rumor sounds more like some new fake info from 4chan or somewhere else.
I had a similar thought. But for Barbara. She's behaving strange in HiC.
[B]Do we know anything about the Secret Sex?[/B] I know that they are sleepers and that they are known heroes, or? And they are part of the Batman Who Laughs' plan. But what are they supposed to do?[/QUOTE]
They did the deed without telling anyone.
[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4331761]They did the deed without telling anyone.[/QUOTE]
Freudian slip :o
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4331564]4chan, same guy that leaked HiC #8 in advance.[/QUOTE]
Ah, the guy from the LCS. I can believe the rumour if it's him. He was very pissed about people not believing him, he's like me, I think: he hates being called a liar, wouldn't like for the sale of trolling. If it really was him leaking stuff, I mean.
Sigh.
I hate events.
With passion, as much as high heels, if not more.
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[URL="https://www.comicsbeat.com/interview-brian-michael-bendis-leviathan/"]Interview[/URL] with Brian Michael Bendis:
[QUOTE]My mandate since I’ve got to DC has been as cool as the classic villains are is that we need new villains and villains that speak to what’s been going on in the world now and what’s been going on in the heroes’ lives now. I’ve been adding new villains to Superman’s books, and Leviathan is among them. What I’m excited about is that we’re all hunkering down and doing our big stories with our villains, and we realized we’ve got a lot of cool villain stories going on at the same time, so here we are.[/QUOTE]
Leviathan is a new character/villain. So it can't be Jason.
Case closed.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4331979][URL="https://www.comicsbeat.com/interview-brian-michael-bendis-leviathan/"]Interview[/URL] with Brian Michael Bendis:
Leviathan is a new character/villain. So it can't be Jason.
Case closed.[/QUOTE]
An organization can be called a villain too, I think. I wouldn't dismiss these fears yet.
On the other hand, he's right about needing new villains. But the thing is, Leviatan isn't new as far as I know, and he does know too, right? He mentioned Leviatan's past in the books in Superman or Action Comics recently. Neither would be Jason as a villain \o/.
Should I add another column titled "guest appearances" to the [URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4148957&viewfull=1#post4148957"]Sales Statistics[/URL]? For example, there would be Solomon Grundy for issue 12 and Lex Luthor for issue 13.
It's not really that relevant for sales but maybe a nice info to know.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4332127]Should I add another column titled "guest appearances" to the [URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4148957&viewfull=1#post4148957"]Sales Statistics[/URL]? For example, there would be Solomon Grundy for issue 12 and Lex Luthor for issue 13.
It's not really that relevant for sales but maybe a nice info to know.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, sure. That would be very nice :).
Life sucks so hard right now. [URL="https://www.newsarama.com/44993-brian-michael-bendis-dc-year-of-the-villain-leviathan-alex-maleev.html"]Preview of Event Leviathan (+Interview)[/URL]
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That feels more like a fake out than a reveal
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4332269][I](Here goes a page from Leviathan)[/I][/QUOTE]
[spoil]Can't say I didn't see it coming (Jason as a part in the plot). Can't say I did see it coming (Damian trying to prove Jason wasn't the bad guy). As usually, I dislike the voice Bendis gives the characters (they all tend to sound the same—Not saying that's a bad thing, just something I don't like. An opinion based in my perception); and, unless Damian changed his view on Jason in Teen Titans (I don't read TT, so I may be wrong), I think this is a bit at odds with how he acted there.[/spoil]
Maybe we should spoil all this stuff for a few days, @Dark.
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4332269][img]https://i.imgur.com/fk94yMT.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Chapter Two? Not him then. ^^
Having both Jason & Talia appear behind Damian seems random. Hope there’s some context that we are missing opposed to it just being random.
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4332316]Having both Jason & Talia appear behind Damian seems random. Hope there’s some context that we are missing opposed to it just being random.[/QUOTE]
It's not really that random, maybe. Jason has a history with Talia, Talia was the one behind the first Leviatan (as far as I recall), and I think she's dead right now? And Damian has connection to both. So...
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4332305]Maybe we should spoil all this stuff for a few days, @Dark.[/QUOTE]
Is part of the official preview released by DC. No reason to use spoilers.
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4332320]Is part of the official preview released by DC. No reason to use spoilers.[/QUOTE]
Oh, Ok then. I though it was a part of the actual whole issue already.
Talia is alive (again). She died in Silencer but her death only lasted a few chapters.
Jason looks so squeezed in the last panel.
Suddenly Damian acts like he cares about Jason. Damian drove a dart into Jason's hip in the TT Annual because he thought Jason is working for a villain.
But who knows what Damian is thinking. Maybe he's playing nice until he finds proof that Jason crossed lines so that he can aim the next time for Jason's head when Bruce isn't looking.
Sorry, I'm annoyed. I don't think this event will end good for Jason.
In the worst case scenario this will be the return of Dick "Golden Boy" Grayson who'll save everyone except Jason because Jason gets thrown into a cell in Arkham next to Joker.
The Robin in the preview honestly “sounds” a lot more like Tim than he does Damian.
Well, as usual, let's not get ahead of ourselves and see how the whole thing unravels in the end.
But yeah, I'm not so hopeful either. The only things that give me hope are that we still have an ongoing with a clear plot lined for the next few months that apparently has little to do with anything Leviathan (but could be wrong: solicits were ambiguous enough); that it seems that Barbara is somehow involved in the same side and not against?; and that the 3 Jokers story will need Jason as a somewhat vigilante to work, and not another Doctor No rip-off.
does this sound like Damian to you calling jason by his full name instead of todd or just jason or referring to jason as bruce old partner instead of and insult