Jason Todd: Robin, Red Hood, Arkham Knight Appreciation 2019

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[QUOTE=Clark_Kent;4598663]I didn't start reading Batman regularly until well into Knightfall, so I missed Jason's time as Robin (for a long time, literally the only story I had read with him as Robin was Death In the Family). With the DCU app, I've been going back to catch up on a lot of stuff I never read anywhere. Jason's time as Robin, pre-Crisis, during Moench's run was an interesting period! He's a good kid, no sign of the Robin they would turn him into. His relationship with Nocturna was interesting, as well as his jealousy (or just in general, hurt feelings) over all the time Batman was spending with Catwoman ("watch it, cat lady!" lol).

He was a Grayson clone in many ways, but still managed to have his own stuff going on. The older stories certainly changed my opinion on Jason's time as Robin.[/QUOTE]

I may be the only one here, but I think that he wasn't that different post-Crisis. He was already a very bold kid pre-Crisis, and clearly had a tendency to make his own choices regardless of anyone else's opinion. He was just a bit less angry. And that wasn't a problem until late into Starlin's run as far as I've seen. Both of them wore their hearts in their sleeves.

(Oh, would you like to post in our reading thread? I need to come back there and post too)

[QUOTE=Zaresh;4598747]I may be the only one here, but I think that he wasn't that different post-Crisis. He was already a very bold kid pre-Crisis, and clearly had a tendency to make his own choices regardless of anyone else's opinion. He was just a bit less angry. And that wasn't a problem until late into Starlin's run as far as I've seen. Both of them wore their hearts in their sleeves.

(Oh, would you like to post in our reading thread? I need to come back there and post too)[/QUOTE]

My bad if I posted in the wrong spot, I'll look for the reading thread. I just wanted to give my "appreciation" :)

[QUOTE=Clark_Kent;4598769]My bad if I posted in the wrong spot, I'll look for the reading thread. I just wanted to give my "appreciation" :)[/QUOTE]

It's cool. Post wherever you want. ;)
The reading thread is still on hiatus anyway (we are still early in pre-crisis, shortly after Nocturna's introduction if I recall correctly.)

Pre-crisis Jason Todd is so underrated. I still prefer the post-crisis origin (it's my favorite Robin origin) but there's already a lot going on in pre-crisis that I love.
And as Zaresh mentioned, pre-crisis and post-crisis Jason share a lot of characteristics.

[QUOTE=Clark_Kent;4598769]My bad if I posted in the wrong spot, I'll look for the reading thread. I just wanted to give my "appreciation" :)[/QUOTE]

Nah, like @Sergard said, it's not wrong or anything. I was just wondering. I remembered that I was going to post there this summer and ended up forgetting about it.

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Its not bad, but Damian looks like a toddler and Dick just looks off (can't quite put my finger on it).

It’s the ass.

That Dick does his push ups and sit ups but not enough squats.

[QUOTE=Arsenal;4598917]It’s the ass.

That Dick does his push ups and sit ups but not enough squats.[/QUOTE]

That's what it was!

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[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4598895]Its not bad, but Damian looks like a toddler and Dick just looks off (can't quite put my finger on it).[/QUOTE]

Dick looks like he’s 12.

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[I]With the team thrown into upheaval, Dick and the others vow to do everything in their power to save Jason Todd's life. Gar's guilt over Jason's kidnapping complicates the mission to save their fellow Titan, while Rachel's dark secret continues to gnaw at her. When Deathstroke demands they turn over Rose in exchange for Jason, the moral crisis threatens to tear the team apart from the inside.[/I]

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Odds that is Deathstroke the one who kills Jason in this version?

[QUOTE=Clark_Kent;4598663]I didn't start reading Batman regularly until well into Knightfall, so I missed Jason's time as Robin (for a long time, literally the only story I had read with him as Robin was Death In the Family). With the DCU app, I've been going back to catch up on a lot of stuff I never read anywhere. Jason's time as Robin, pre-Crisis, during Moench's run was an interesting period! He's a good kid, no sign of the Robin they would turn him into. His relationship with Nocturna was interesting, as well as his jealousy (or just in general, hurt feelings) over all the time Batman was spending with Catwoman ("watch it, cat lady!" lol).

He was a Grayson clone in many ways, but still managed to have his own stuff going on. The older stories certainly changed my opinion on Jason's time as Robin.[/QUOTE]

Sweet
I feel like Jasons time as Robin generally seems to be overlooked in fandom, so it's always nice to see people discovering the comics from his early days.
And yeah, his 'cattiness' with catwoman was always pretty funny :D

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4600746]Odds that is Deathstroke the one who kills Jason in this version?[/QUOTE]

Haven't seen the latest season yet, waiting for netflix, but based on my experience of season 1, I don't think the show ever seemed too fussed with canon, unless you're gripe is not with the change in the story but something else..?

On that note, I mean it's not confirmed, but hypothetically, assuming Slade is the one to kill Jason, considering the nature of the show, it being, [I]Dicks[/I] show, with characters and their stories [I]revolving[/I] around him, then the show runners changing Jasons death to be at Slades hand would fit their ideal.

Jason is a side character for Bruce? Bruces adversary Joker kills him.
Jason is a side character for Dick? Dicks adversary Deathstroke kills him.

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[I]Tim: You’re a thug.
Jason: I prefer the term Freedom Fighter.

Somewhere in the multiverse a cybernetically enhanced Jason finds a nifty little Drake Industries ancilla and together they take on the corrupt elite of Gotham. [/I]

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[I]Tim: You’re a thug.
Jason: I prefer the term Freedom Fighter.

Somewhere in the multiverse a cybernetically enhanced Jason finds a nifty little Drake Industries ancilla and together they take on the corrupt elite of Gotham. [/I]

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Ooooh, I would totally read that story. More so if it's settled in, let's see, a Shadowrun campaign or something. Yeah, that could be the icing on the cake.

Slowly getting caught up on the Rebirth Bat Books, among others, and was wondering what the overall consensus was on this current volume. Is it worth picking up?

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Well, no sign of Jason in DCeased #5 and just one issue to go.

[QUOTE=Shadowcat;4602060]Slowly getting caught up on the Rebirth Bat Books, among others, and was wondering what the overall consensus was on this current volume. Is it worth picking up?[/QUOTE]

By "current volume" you mean the whole Red Hood and the Outlaws Rebirth run or the latest trade "Red Hood: Outlaw Vol 1: Requiem for an Archer"?

More sneak peeks from issue 40

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Also, has anyone else realized that if you count all the issues since the N52, we're close to the 100th issue?

Reading Batman, Detective Comics, Nightwing, & Redhood and the Outlaws.. just got through Death of the Family. I really loved Jason's roll in it all. These are the first few Batman/Batfamily stories I've read and I'm enjoying the hell out of them. Just as an observation, would it be fair to say Jason has a better relationship with Tim than he does with Dick?

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4603072]More sneak peeks from issue 40

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Also, has anyone else realized that if you count all the issues since the N52, we're close to the 100th issue?[/QUOTE]
Those previews are looking real good. Looks like we lucked out with the new artist.

And yeah, I have. I’m just curious to see if we’ll reach issue 100 in this run or the next.

[QUOTE=cc008;4603213]Reading Batman, Detective Comics, Nightwing, & Redhood and the Outlaws.. just got through Death of the Family. I really loved Jason's roll in it all. These are the first few Batman/Batfamily stories I've read and I'm enjoying the hell out of them. Just as an observation, would it be fair to say Jason has a better relationship with Tim than he does with Dick?[/QUOTE]

At the time? Yes. However, a few reality warping events have happened since that make it a little murky. Though before Dick's current direction, Dick and Jason were starting to bond a little.

[QUOTE=Arsenal;4603230]And yeah, I have. I’m just curious to see if we’ll reach issue 100 in this run or the next.[/QUOTE]

We should have around ten issues to go.

RHATO V1: 41 issues (#0-#40)

RHA: 13 issues

RHATO V2: 39 issues (Rebirth, #1-#38) so far.

93 issues. 99 issues if you count the five annuals and the Future's End issue.

[QUOTE=Sergard;4598785]It's cool. Post wherever you want. ;)
The reading thread is still on hiatus anyway (we are still early in pre-crisis, shortly after Nocturna's introduction if I recall correctly.)

Pre-crisis Jason Todd is so underrated. I still prefer the post-crisis origin (it's my favorite Robin origin) but there's already a lot going on in pre-crisis that I love.
And as Zaresh mentioned, pre-crisis and post-crisis Jason share a lot of characteristics.[/QUOTE]

I can't seem to find the reading thread...help a guy out? :)

[QUOTE=Clark_Kent;4603395]I can't seem to find the reading thread...help a guy out? :)[/QUOTE]

Sure, no problem ;)
[URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?120845-The-Jason-Todd-Reread-(pre-and-post-crisis)"]The Jason Todd Reread (pre- and post-crisis)[/URL]

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4602826]Well, no sign of Jason in DCeased #5 and just one issue to go.[/QUOTE]

Since Tom Taylor mentioned on Twitter that the RH:O #39 variant by Karl Mostert (colors by Rex Lokus) inspired him to write something, I'm waiting for some RHatO-action in the DCeased-universe.
Even more since Karl Mostert [URL="https://twitter.com/Kamo_1981/status/1176933260691148800"]twittered[/URL] on 25th September: "[I]Just received one of the best emails of my career. Damn, I'm excited.[/I]"
And the comment section looks like this:

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I don't know who Ben Abernathy is. His twitter account says "Director of Talent Relations at DC Entertainment". And I can remember that his twitter header was the RH:O #39 variant for quite some time. So I have at least some hope left, that we'll see Jason and Co. in Taylor's zombie-universe.

Didn't he say there was more DCeased news coming soon? Maybe Jason's in some kind of spin off or sequel.

[QUOTE=Sergard;4602933]By "current volume" you mean the whole Red Hood and the Outlaws Rebirth run or the latest trade "Red Hood: Outlaw Vol 1: Requiem for an Archer"?[/QUOTE]

The entire Rebirth volume.

[QUOTE=Shadowcat;4602060]Slowly getting caught up on the Rebirth Bat Books, among others, and was wondering what the overall consensus was on this current volume. Is it worth picking up?[/QUOTE]

1-25 of Rebirth is awesome. After, it has ups and downs, but now its trending back up in quality.

[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4603857]1-25 of Rebirth is awesome. After, it has ups and downs, but now its trending back up in quality.[/QUOTE]
Thanks so much.

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[QUOTE=Sergard;4603520]I don't know who Ben Abernathy is. His twitter account says "Director of Talent Relations at DC Entertainment". And I can remember that his twitter header was the RH:O #39 variant for quite some time. So I have at least some hope left, that we'll see Jason and Co. in Taylor's zombie-universe.[/QUOTE]

He's DCeased editor.