Jason Todd: Robin, Red Hood, Arkham Knight Appreciation 2019

[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4283292]I know Jason is a big book nerd. Particularly for classics. But I never pegged him for much of a movie guy. Even for adaptations of books he enjoys.[/QUOTE]Pre crisis he was more into movies (but iirc not classic), there is iirc story were he teamed up with Bullock (who was also a big fan of classic movies back than) to crack the Film Freak case before Batman and Gordon could.

[QUOTE=Arctic Cyclist;4282766]Oh, but that's perfect. Not only would he get to troll Bruce and Selina, who he's historically [B]not[/B] a shipper of and was extremely bothered by as Robin, [/QUOTE]That was also pre crisis.

[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4283292]I know Jason is a big book nerd. Particularly for classics. But I never pegged him for much of a movie guy. Even for adaptations of books he enjoys.[/QUOTE]

I think that's one of the cool things Lobdell does--he keeps doling out little things we can discover about Jason.

Jason is mentioned in the Justice League #21 [URL="https://www.cbr.com/justice-league-21-preview-superman-vs-superman/"]preview[/URL].
Well, not THIS Jason but the Jason from another universe/alternate reality. But it's not much. I don't think we'll actually see that Jason in Justice League - which is a shame. Because Dick looks like he's in his late thirties/early forties. And I love me some well-aged Jason.

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Tom Nguyen has some Red Hood sketches on his instagram but I don't know how to embed them here, so here are the links: [URL="https://www.instagram.com/p/BvpCh5thw2i/"]Link 1[/URL], [URL="https://www.instagram.com/p/Bvr2CPRB_0s/"]Link 2[/URL] and [URL="https://www.instagram.com/p/BvpoWyfBv6o/"]Link 3[/URL].

(The OP was too long. So I outsourced the fanfic recommendations.)

[SIZE=3][B]Some great fanfic authors[/B][/SIZE]

[URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4116091&viewfull=1#post4116091"]List of recommended fanfic authors[/URL]
List of recommended fanfics of the genres/about the topic:
[LIST][*][URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4310267&viewfull=1#post4310267"]Buried, Burnt and Risen from the Ashes[/URL][*][URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4293746&viewfull=1#post4293746"]Family Matters[/URL][*][URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4118058&viewfull=1#post4118058"]Ghosts and Urban Fantasy[/URL][*][URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4124331&viewfull=1#post4124331"]Jason is another kind of hero[/URL][*][URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4129646&viewfull=1#post4129646"]Jason becomes his own man[/URL][*][URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4134726&viewfull=1#post4134726"]Time Travel and Aging / De-aging[/URL][*][URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4162756&viewfull=1#post4162756"]Traditional fantasy[/URL][/LIST]

[QUOTE=Sergard;4284270](The OP was too long. So I outsourced the fanfic recommendations.)

[SIZE=3][B]Some great fanfic authors[/B][/SIZE]

[URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4116091&viewfull=1#post4116091"]List of recommended fanfic authors[/URL]
List of recommended fanfics of the genres/about the topic:
[LIST][*][URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4118058&viewfull=1#post4118058"]Ghosts and Urban Fantasy[/URL][*][URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4124331&viewfull=1#post4124331"]Jason is another kind of hero[/URL][*][URL="[*]Jason becomes his own man"]Jason becomes his own man[/URL][*][URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4134726&viewfull=1#post4134726"]Time Travel and Aging / De-aging[/URL][*][URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?119829-Jason-Todd-Robin-Red-Hood-Arkham-Knight-Prince-of-Gotham-Appreciation-2019&p=4162756&viewfull=1#post4162756"]Traditional fantasy[/URL][/LIST][/QUOTE]

May want to fix the "Jason becomes his own man" link.

[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4284285]May want to fix the "Jason becomes his own man" link.[/QUOTE]

Thanks. Fixed. :D

[QUOTE=Aahz;4283447]Pre crisis he was more into movies (but iirc not classic), there is iirc story were he teamed up with Bullock (who was also a big fan of classic movies back than) to crack the Film Freak case before Batman and Gordon could.

That was also pre crisis.[/QUOTE]

Post crisis he's still a book reader, and considering Capote is one of the 20th centuries more important writers and the first author of a true crime novel, it's highly probable Jason would have read him and related to book Holly, who's a very different and more complex character than movie Holly. It's improbable to believe that any Robin hasn't read in [U]In Cold Blood.[/U] Heck, I've never met anyone who is in law enforcement or went to into law period who didn't read [U]In Cold Blood[/U] as a teenager. (Fun fact and way off topic, Dill from [U]To Kill a Mockingbird[/U] was based on Capote, which makes him canon gay.)

You're right about Selina, considering that post crisis Bruce didn't date or really even flirt while Jason was Robin and Selina wasn't really portrayed as a major love interest outside of her own book until Loeb. She's mentioned whenever girlfriends were ranked through the 90s, and shows up in Legacy, Contagion, and a few issues of Gotham Knights because Hugo Strange ships it, but she's not Shondra Kingsolver, Vesper Fairchild, Sasha Bordeaux, Vicki Vale, Talia al Ghul, Wonder Woman, or Silver St Cloud level of love interest until Jeph Loeb started pushing the ship. So Jason would have had no investment either way in the relationship as it doesn't really impact him...up until she leaves Bruce at the rooftop.

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And idea that didn’t pan out...
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[url]https://twitter.com/thatpetewoods/status/1112816461830148096[/url]

Guess that’s the thing he was talking about. It’s a shame because that design looks nice.

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If I find some time next weekend, I'll add a new list with fics that deal with Jason and his relationship with his family (and Talia). I've been meaning to do this for a while, but I'm just too busy with a lot of IRL stuff.

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Shame. I'd have loved to see those blades in action.

Eh, it looks too much like Dexter's Red Ronin Pitch.

Seems like there'll be more Robin Jason action in Titans season 2.
[url]https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/04/02/titans-season-2-curran-walters-jason-todd-series-regular/[/url]

[QUOTE=Sergard;4285700]Seems like there'll be more Robin Jason action in Titans season 2.
[url]https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/04/02/titans-season-2-curran-walters-jason-todd-series-regular/[/url][/QUOTE]

Makes me wonder who he'll become friends with (aside from Dick, maybe). And if he's cooled off a bit since he paralyzed that one cop (that was a bit far for his character in this series).

[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4285772]Makes me wonder who he'll become friends with (aside from Dick, maybe). And if he's cooled off a bit since he paralyzed that one cop (that was a bit far for his character in this series).[/QUOTE]

I didn't even know that he paralyzed a cop. I didn't follow the first season but there wasn't any talk about that event either. (Which is surprising. Because there are enough Jason Todd haters that would use such information to spread more hate. Because people nowadays seem to care more about characters they hate than characters they love.)

Jason could be friends with Rose and Joseph Wilson.

[QUOTE=Sergard;4285781]I didn't even know that he paralyzed a cop. I didn't follow the first season but there wasn't any talk about that event either. (Which is surprising. Because there are enough Jason Todd haters that would use such information to spread more hate. Because people nowadays seem to care more about characters they hate than characters they love.)

Jason could be friends with Rose and Joseph Wilson.[/QUOTE]

I don't know why, but I suspect they are going to try to make some sort of triangle between him, Rachel and Gar, for a while until Jason dies. Maybe not romantic, but emotional at least.

I keep see people speculating that next season Jason and Rose will become a thing. Once Rose outright rejects Slade to stay on the team, Slade will either outright kill Jason or hand him over to Joker.

[QUOTE=Arsenal;4285831]I keep see people speculating that next season Jason and Rose will become a thing. Once Rose outright rejects Slade to stay on the team, Slade will either outright kill Jason or hand him over to Joker.[/QUOTE]

I've seen those rumors too. The idea sounds stupid. Why should Slade do that?
I'd rather see another fan favorite idea: Jason somehow becoming Slade's apprentice.

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[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4285772]And if he's cooled off a bit since he paralyzed that one cop (that was a bit far for his character in this series).[/QUOTE]

I mean, agreed, that sequence went too far, but I didnt hear anything about paralysis? When was that mentioned?

[QUOTE=RedBird;4285891]I mean, agreed, that sequence went too far, but I didnt hear anything about paralysis? When was that mentioned?[/QUOTE]

I simply assume, as Jason broke the cop's back. That's not something you just walk away from.

[QUOTE=Zaresh;4285824]I don't know why, but I suspect they are going to try to make some sort of triangle between him, Rachel and Gar, for a while until Jason dies. Maybe not romantic, but emotional at least.[/QUOTE]

Uh. Rachel, the actress anyway, is 13. While the actors for both BB and Jason are in their 20s. And Jason's character is about 20 as well.

[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4285993]Uh. Rachel, the actress anyway, is 13. While the actors for both BB and Jason are in their 20s. And Jason's character is about 20 as well.[/QUOTE]

Hence why I said not romantic. Emotional bonds don't need to be romantical for bearing conflict. And in any case, I think they already hinted at something else that could bloom eventually (far in the future) between Rachel and Gar in season one. But to be honest, I think it will be a not romantic conflictive triangle. Even if some of them could hold some unrequired feelings (because the show is heavy in drama).

I don't know, just my wild guessing.

[QUOTE=Sergard;4285834]I've seen those rumors too. The idea sounds stupid. Why should Slade do that?
I'd rather see another fan favorite idea: Jason somehow becoming Slade's apprentice.[/QUOTE]

Huh. Slade should become Jason's friggin' little apprentice.

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4285569]Eh, it looks too much like Dexter's Red Ronin Pitch.[/QUOTE]

for me it looks too much like Azrael

[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4285993]Uh. Rachel, the actress anyway, is 13. While the actors for both BB and Jason are in their 20s. And Jason's character is about 20 as well.[/QUOTE]I really would have preferred if they had cast teen actors for all 3 of them.

Is Jason as a character really supposed to be 20?

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I'm surprised how good the colors work together.
But yeah, it would have been a little strange (and unfair) if Soy's pitch had been rejected but Woods' design had gotten a pass.
Especially since the question arises why Jason should even wear that kind of style.
It looks like the costume is inspired by ancient Chinese warrior armor (a culture Jason has no connections with) - and it looks even less safe than Jason's current costume.
The material is useless against enemy attacks but all that fabric and co. looks heavy. So Jason is slowed down.

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4285569]Eh, it looks too much like Dexter's Red Ronin Pitch.[/QUOTE]

Still it's some thing we could have had. Wonder why both didn't get approved.

It reminds me more of those guys, who were running arround in a few Bat-Comics in the New52 era.

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But I thing it could be a cool costume, if Jason would join the All Cast again for some time.

[QUOTE=Sergard;4285834]I've seen those rumors too. The idea sounds stupid. Why should Slade do that?
I'd rather see another fan favorite idea: [B][COLOR="#0000FF"]Jason somehow becoming Slade's apprentice.[/COLOR][/B][/QUOTE]

While I don't know about "Apprentice", it did occur to me that Slade's own children along with Jason would be the start of an "Anti-" Titans team.

That said, no telling where they are going with it. What seems to be a different costume might not mean anything.

Jason will be a series regular on Titans.

[url]https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/04/02/titans-season-2-curran-walters-jason-todd-series-regular/[/url]

At this point, I'm starting to wondering if they're going to try something completely different with the Titans in this universe. Similarly to what Marvel has done with the MCU. Some nods and general concepts, but that's all. It seems that there are so many characters and concepts banned from what they are allowed to use in the shows, and when not, they are already doing some changes that kind of feel original (like puting Cyborg in he DP, even if as a guest member, for a long time), that maybe... Maybe this is the start of a new team of Titans we didn't see until know, with new dynamics. And maybe Jason will finally have his own Titans' generation. I don't know, but I doubt they would put a regular who would have a big part, as an antagonist or a villain to the main cast, with how episodic the first season was, and how many characters they already have for the second season to work with.

[QUOTE=numberthirty;4286426]While I don't know about "Apprentice", it did occur to me that Slade's own children along with Jason would be the start of an "Anti-" Titans team.

That said, no telling where they are going with it. What seems to be a different costume might not mean anything.[/QUOTE]

I don't like the term "anti". It suggests that Jason's team would be solely defined by, and therefore dependent on, being the opposite of the Titans.
For example, the Outlaws aren't an anti-Titans team. The teams are different, sure, but both follow their own path independently and save innocent people on the way.
How would an anti-Titans team even look like? Especially since Jason and Dick actually have a lot in common.

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