[QUOTE=Alycat;4132256]Kinda wonder how old YJ Jason is suppose to be. Did he stop aging? Is he older or the same age as Tim?[/QUOTE]
According to Greg Weisman, he was 10 in 2010. The show takes place during 2018, so he's 18 years old.
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[QUOTE=Alycat;4132256]Kinda wonder how old YJ Jason is suppose to be. Did he stop aging? Is he older or the same age as Tim?[/QUOTE]
According to Greg Weisman, he was 10 in 2010. The show takes place during 2018, so he's 18 years old.
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4131318]Josh Keaton was also Spiderman on Spectacular Spiderman[/QUOTE]
Definitely good times. An all-time favorite of mine.
[QUOTE=Aahz;4131549]From Batman:Hush.
In Batman Hush (which happend a few story arc before Under the Red Hood) Clayface fas posing as Jason, and he had a white streak and fought with Bruce. Later after the "Under the Red Hood" they retconned, that this was actually Jason how at some point during the fight switched places with Clayface.[/QUOTE]
That's so cool. I never realized that. How did Jason's fans react to this [I]retcon[/I]?
[QUOTE=Aahz;4131549]From Batman:Hush.
In Batman Hush (which happend a few story arc before Under the Red Hood) Clayface fas posing as Jason, and he had a white streak and fought with Bruce. Later after the "Under the Red Hood" they retconned, that this was actually Jason how at some point during the fight switched places with Clayface.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand the need for this. Seems unnecessarily complicated. Why can't it just be Clayface the whole time. Even the panel support this. During their fight in the graveyard Jason did the exact same flipping and kicking Dick did in the previous issue. That works perfectly for the story's idea that Clayface Jason is mimicking Dick's movement because he didn't know how Jason moves.
[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4131531]Batman Ninja was made in Japan, with a lot of anime over the top aspects to it. And Jason does have a role, and quite the scene when he comes across Joker and Harley that fits him to a tee.
Really, the only character that is out of character is Damian (minus his love of animals).[/QUOTE]
That's really interesting. I didn't know it was made in Japan. Is it based on a story arc or is it an original plot they came up with?
I'm not too familiar with Damian or any bat family member that wasn't in BTAS (besides Jason now), so I don't think I'd notice any ooc moments.
[QUOTE=Aahz;4131549]From Batman:Hush.
In Batman Hush (which happend a few story arc before Under the Red Hood) Clayface fas posing as Jason, and he had a white streak and fought with Bruce. Later after the "Under the Red Hood" they retconned, that this was actually Jason how at some point during the fight switched places with Clayface.[/QUOTE]
Ah, so technically at first it wasn't even supposed to be him. I wonder what made the look so memorable. Was it because it's shortly before him becoming Red Hood? It definitely would have him easily recognized in the sea of bat family guys. lol :p
[QUOTE=babybats;4132048]The animation in Batman Ninja is amazing. I rented it on Amazon, watched it, and then bought it because I wanted to watch it again and again. The plot is nonsense, the English dub voice acting is kinda not great sometimes (definitely prefer the Japanese audio), but it has some of the best animators in Japan working on it and it's so good. Highly recommend if you're an animation fan.[/QUOTE]
Kinda sounds a bit like the anime I used to watch when I was more into that. Definitely interested in the animation, though. I'll probably rent the movie and maybe buy the BD depending on how much I like it.
[QUOTE=Lirica;4132546] I wonder what made the look so memorable. [/QUOTE]I guess it was because it was the frist time they had an adult Jason in the comics. And Hush is a pretty popular story arc.
I'm actually wandering more why it never caught on in the comics, the white streak seems pretty popular among fans and is quit iconic.
[QUOTE=Aahz;4132580]I guess it was because it was the frist time they had an adult Jason in the comics. And Hush is a pretty popular story arc.
I'm actually wandering more why it never caught on in the comics, the white streak seems pretty popular among fans and is quit iconic.[/QUOTE]
I heard two different reasons why the white streak was retconned.
1) some artists forgot to draw it, therefore there was an inconsistency in appearance
2) Jason looked too old with the white streak
I'm indifferent about the white streak. Some fan artworks make it look really cool. And in comics it's more the artstyle of the artist that dictates how old Jason looks than the white streak.
I just don't want the white streak to be a consequence of the Lazarus pit - there are a lot of characters that were dumped into it and none of them had an white streak afterwards.
Or maybe DC wants Jason to look the same in all media - and not in all of them Jason was dead and resurrected in his coffin.
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[QUOTE=Sergard;4132586]I heard two different reasons why the white streak was retconned.
1) some artists forgot to draw it, therefore there was an inconsistency in appearance
2) Jason looked too old with the white streak
I'm indifferent about the white streak. Some fan artworks make it look really cool. And in comics it's more the artstyle of the artist that dictates how old Jason looks than the white streak.
I just don't want the white streak to be a consequence of the Lazarus pit - there are a lot of characters that were dumped into it and none of them had an white streak afterwards.
Or maybe DC wants Jason to look the same in all media - and not in all of them Jason was dead and resurrected in his coffin.[/QUOTE]
There is the issue with Jason Blood having a white streak in his auburn/dark brown hair too, iirc.
So, not only do we get Young Justice series back, but we also have Jason in it!
And, yeah. Came across a few fanfics as well that had Jay as a sort of bodyguard for young Damian, in a literal red hood and mask, and not remembering his life before he died until he saw Dick again.
And while I love UtRH, both film and comic, it just doesn't seem like it would fit in this universe. But I am excited to see where they take Jason's story in this series.
Damian, well, he has a few years yet before he can really contribute here.
[QUOTE=Lirica;4132546]
Ah, so technically at first it wasn't even supposed to be him. I wonder what made the look so memorable. Was it because it's shortly before him becoming Red Hood? It definitely would have him easily recognized in the sea of bat family guys. lol :p[/QUOTE]
Jason in general was a continuity and writing mess since his resurrection and up to the N52. Unlike say, Bucky, there was no real plans or ideas for Jason's resurrection. Winnick simply thought it would be neat to have him as a one off villain. When turned out fans loved him, then was when he scrambled to justify his return, clumsily retconnig Hush and tying the whole thing to IC.
Afterwards, Jason was used as writers saw fit without caring about keeping his character consistent and often, just for sheer shock value.
When Countdown happened, it seemed like editorial had decided on a direction for him, but between the poor reception and Morrison doing things his way, they backpedaled hard at the end to undo all work on Jason and push him under the rug again.
After that, Daniels decided to turn Jason into Dick's Joker but luckily, that didn't panned out either. Finally, with the animated movie being a big success and the reboot looming into the horizon, editorial was able to find a direction for Jason and stick to it until now.
That said, I never liked the white streak, is sort of a generic characteristic for "badass and brooding" characters and there was nothing justifying its existence in the comics (unlike Parallax's streak) so I was happy to see it go.
Since the OP is too long, I had to outsource some information in separate posts. Following, one finds special moments of Jason Todd and:
[CENTER][SIZE=3][B]Bruce Wayne/Batman[/B][/SIZE]
Jason's adoptive father, Jason and Bruce have a very complicated relationship with ups and downs[/CENTER]
[I]special moments[/I]:
[LIST][*]Batman #408 - Jason tries to steal the tyres of the batmobile, gets caught and adopted by Batman (post-crisis introduction of Jason)[*]Batman #426–429 - Bruce can't save Jason, Jason is killed by the Joker (Death in the family, death in #428)[*]Batman #635-641, 645-650, Annual #25 - Jason returns as the Red Hood (Batman: Under the Hood)
[CENTER][COLOR="#696969"]"I know I failed you. But ... I tried to save you, Jason. I'm ... I'm trying to save you now."[/COLOR]
Bruce Wayne (Batman #650)
[/CENTER][*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #3 [2011-2015] - small flashback of Robin Jason being sick, Batman and Robin take a night off[*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #18 [2011-2015] - Jason recovers at the manor from Joker's attack, Bruce and Jason hug
[CENTER][COLOR="#696969"]"Jason, it's time - it's time to come back home. For Good."[/COLOR]
Bruce Wayne (Red Hood and the Outlaws #18 [2011-2015])
[/CENTER][*]Red Hood/Arsenal #5 - Jason visits an amnesic Bruce who works in a youth center, Bruce and Jason hug
[CENTER][COLOR="#B22222"]"Bruce Wayne is alive. That's all that really matters."[/COLOR]
Jason Todd (Red Hood/Arsenal #5)
[/CENTER][*]Red Hood and the Outlaws Rebirth - Bruce and Jason make a deal that Jason can stay and operate in Gotham if he doesn't kill
[CENTER][COLOR="#696969"]"My city. My rules. You get [B]one strike[/B], Jason. If I think for an [B]instant[/B] you're in too deep - I'm pulling you out. If you take [B]one[/B] life - for whatever reason ... I'm coming for you."[/COLOR]
Bruce Wayne (Red Hood and the Outlaws Rebirth)
[/CENTER][*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #25 [2016 - ] - Bruce and Jason fight (okay, Bruce fights; Jason is more of a punching bag) after Jason has "killed" Penguin
[CENTER][COLOR="#696969"]”No more jokes, Jason. No more excuses. No more [B]RED HOOD[/B]!"[/COLOR]
Bruce Wayne (Red Hood and the Outlaws #25 [2016 - ])
[/CENTER][*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #27 [2016 - ] - Bruce tells Jason about Roy's death, Jason isn't allowed to return to Gotham, Bruce and Jason hug[/LIST]
[CENTER][SIZE=3][B]Alfred Pennyworth[/B][/SIZE]
the Wayne-butler and grandfather-figure to all Robins[/CENTER]
[I]special moments[/I]:
[LIST][*]Batman #410 - Alfred is worried about the safety of the new Robin[*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #18 [2011 - 2015] - Alfred cares for Jason, who was attacked by the Joker
[CENTER]"Come back to us, you prince of Gotham."
Alfred Pennyworth (Red Hood and the Outlaws #18 [2011-2015])
[/CENTER][*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #7 [2016 - ] - Jason asks Alfred if he was a disappointment to Bruce[*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #21 [2016 - ] - Jason talks to Alfred about his vigilante worries[*]Teen Titans #26 [2016 - ] - Alfred defends Jason[/LIST]
Maybe a little slash-y but still a beautiful fanart. (And I love how fast some artists react to new information/appearances)
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwsxV5UUYAAhl8G.jpg[/IMG]
([URL="https://twitter.com/fade_unlimited/status/1084014393438793728"]source[/URL])
Found some cool League of Assassins Jason fanart on tumblr. The artwork is from 2016 and was re-posted because of the reveal in Young Justice. But the artist states in the tags that they will do a new artwork. So I'm excited. ([URL="http://jaykore.tumblr.com/post/181938789010/an-oldie-but-a-goodie-circa-2016-dc-we-need"]Source[/URL])
[IMG]https://66.media.tumblr.com/4e791f21d36f7504b4116c22ef9d55f5/tumblr_pl74krWG0P1v6pmvxo1_1280.png[/IMG]
The floodgates have opened
[URL="https://kittynomore.tumblr.com/post/181949515391/i-dont-know-what-happening-but-i-heard-that-my"]kittynomore[/URL]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/df4317126c077375f8ff767dbb677649/tumblr_pl7zixgGSX1rdh7w8o1_500.png[/img]
[URL="http://kirantic.tumblr.com/post/181939568555/i-didnt-think-jason-was-gonna-show-up-this-early"]kirantic[/URL]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/1489c2ddfcbad8df95788100b7e1d768/tumblr_pl76h93DMR1u3x6iwo1_540.png[/img]
[URL="http://teaitis.tumblr.com/post/181956472406/id-like-to-personally-thank-the-show-for-saving"]teaitis[/URL]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/806ede1ffa9ffce5f6385103a0129e0c/tumblr_pl8ga7d3Kd1ui7vkio1_540.png[/img]
[URL="http://m4stry.tumblr.com/post/181944910540/screams-himmmmmmmmm"]m4stry[/URL]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/a9d2ae7894f85131f0b124baf87feece/tumblr_pl7k0vuhGo1r1guyv_500.jpg[/img]
[URL="https://hexwake.tumblr.com/post/181963293554/uhmmm-jason-in-yj-also-being-voiced-by-best"]hexwake[/URL]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/1a7a1a6ab9ede1998faed09dc77669a9/tumblr_pl7snojdXD1ti4j4xo1_r1_540.jpg[/img]
[URL="https://jadeowl19.tumblr.com/post/181953733008/im-freaking-out-bc-jason-todd-is-going-to-be-on-yj"]jadeowl19[/URL]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/31337c1226e93e8226092f83db3447f5/tumblr_pl8akxNpxj1s74t8d_540.jpg[/img]
Woow so many!!! :D
I wonder what personality he will get. We never got to know him as Robin in the show, and now that he's a zombie, it's going to be hard to get the gist to it. Could be the fanfictiony / Morrisoon angry, overdramatic and loud take; the hurt, melancholic and conflicting but still provocative and playfull and often reserved from Winnick and Lobdell, or something new and different.
As long as the Man Josh voices him, its all good.
There is already a short fanfic using the reveal in Young Justice:
[URL="https://archiveofourown.org/works/17403809"]Gray...son?[/URL] by Qais
And completely unrelated, I just found this artwork which was drawn in 2016 but I still want to share it in case not everyone knows it. ([URL="http://kannoponta.tumblr.com/post/140969616560"]source[/URL])
[IMG]https://66.media.tumblr.com/90f0d62d9a7cd55a70d42f8ad4c19d71/tumblr_o3zegx3pX01sem014o1_1280.jpg[/IMG]
I'm currently hearing an old German Batman Audio Play Series from the late 80s that is kind of a continuation of Batman '89. The first episode is Basically a retelling of the movie with that Joker survives the fall from the the cathedral in the end.
I used to own olny the second episode as a kid, and just came across all 9 episodes.
I'm currently at Episode 3 "Die Schüler des Verbrechens" (= the pupils of crime) , and that Episode is basically a retelling of Jason's origin story, the only big differences are that crime school is not run by Ma Gunn but by "Bob the Goon" (at behalf of the Joker who needed new henchmen) and that Jason doesn't become Robin and is in the end of the Episode taken in by Commissioner Gordon (I have to see if Jason will pop up in later episodes but I doubt it).
Also it seems like his parents are still alive, his father is in prison and he says something like his mother is living 300 miles away.
Blonde!Undercover!Jason by tanekore. (and a dark haired variant) ([URL="http://jaykore.tumblr.com/post/181795524140/this-took-far-too-long-but"]source[/URL])
[IMG]https://66.media.tumblr.com/ef4d367685e01cb1f3a874bd008b6d8a/tumblr_pky40g5rvl1v6pmvxo1_r2_1280.png[/IMG]
[IMG]https://66.media.tumblr.com/23e856e5e58e100a4113248de895c28c/tumblr_pky40g5rvl1v6pmvxo2_r2_1280.png[/IMG]
[IMG]https://66.media.tumblr.com/3d1d6d8f44ae82e0f398a36b21d36009/tumblr_inline_pky3wfAEsf1srq71i_500.png[/IMG]
[URL="https://solarisarts.tumblr.com/post/181970392138/man-jason-todd-the-red-hooded-ninja-sure-was-cool"]solarisarts[/URL]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/5005dadd804e2279c6b0a47665dd81c5/tumblr_pl9bh7kuFs1y08csuo1_500.png[/img]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/be72b35fc1d2eb2faba03ef2c2e7a366/tumblr_inline_pl9bg4Adpl1sxoonr_500.png[/img]
[URL="https://twitter.com/btmjaybirb/status/1084073109773119488"]Mia (@btmjaybirb)[/URL]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dwtlx_FVAAAm-DF.jpg[/IMG]
[URL="https://twitter.com/Dhoni10Cutter23/status/1083777868243525632"]六骨@YJs3で死ぬ (@Dhoni10Cutter23)[/URL]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwpaOSeUcAAycWi.jpg[/IMG]
[URL="https://twitter.com/no_CH_ka/status/1083128481649774593"]НОЧКА (@no_CH_ka)[/URL]
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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwgLmGuXgAA-7Dv.jpg[/IMG]
[URL="https://twitter.com/ao8562/status/1083994861693366272"]-IZEFIA-111 (@ao8562)[/URL]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwsfkZ_U8AE7rBR.jpg[/IMG]
[URL="https://twitter.com/LounaAshasou/status/1081994541949960193"]Louna Ashasou (@LounaAshasou)[/URL]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DwQEHUrWsAc6So9.jpg[/IMG]
All these are beautiful @Sergard.
On another note, I can't wait until Jason's visor starts emoting.
Artworks were posted in December but haven't been shared in the old thread. So I hope it's okay when I post them now.
[URL="https://pentapoda.tumblr.com/post/181378641078/i-offered-art-as-incentive-to-register-to-vote"]source[/URL]
[IMG]https://66.media.tumblr.com/64f3ba70bc29cb21ed1e2221e5fe84e6/tumblr_pk93z6gebi1rwv4flo1_640.png[/IMG]
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Since the OP is too long, I had to outsource some information in separate posts. Following, one finds special moments of Jason Todd and:
[CENTER][SIZE=3][B]the Todd family[/B][/SIZE][/CENTER]
[LIST][*][B]Willis Todd/Solitary[/B] - Jason's father who is presumed dead but who is actually very alive. The story of his return is closely connected with two other names: Solitary and the second Wingman (The first Wingman was Jason Todd in [i]Batman Incorporated[/i]).
[INDENT][I]special moments[/I]:
[LIST][*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #19 [2016 - ] - introduction of Solitary[*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #23 [2016 - ] - Jason reads Willis' letters sent from prison years ago for the first time[*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #25 [2016 - ] - Ma Gunn recognizes her son Willis[*]Red Hood: Outlaw #30 [2016 - ] - Jason and Solitary finally meet[/LIST][/INDENT]
[CENTER]"So this is [B]Gotham[/B]. Your Home. You're gonna be everything I [B]never[/B] was. A [U]damned Prince of Gotham[/U]. I'm gonna keep you safe. Be a dad you can look up to."
Willis Todd (Red Hood and the Outlaws #23 [2016 - ])[/CENTER][/LIST]
[LIST][*][B]Catherine Todd[/B] - Jason's mother, presumed dead (but who knows, the Todd family isn't known for staying dead.)
[INDENT][I]special moments[/I]:
[LIST][*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #23 [2016 - ] - appears in flashbacks (Willis' letters) only[/LIST]
[/INDENT][*][B]Faye Gunn/Ma Gunn[/B] - Willis' mother and Jason's grandmother that he doesn't know about
[INDENT][I]special moments[/I]:
[LIST][*]Batman #408-409 - first appearance[*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #1 [2016 - ] - re-introduction of Ma Gunn in current continuity[*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #12 [2016 - ] - Ma Gunn takes care of a weakened Bizarro and finds Willis' letters[*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #25 [2016 - ] - Ma Gunn meets her son Willis after years of separation[/LIST][/INDENT][/LIST]
[CENTER]"I deserve my fate. I'll be fine. I've grown accustomed to the dark."
Ma Gunn (Red Hood and the Outlaws #25 [2016 - ])[/CENTER]
[LIST][*][B]Faye Gunn[/B] - Jason's cousin
[INDENT][I]special moments[/I]:
[LIST][*]Red Hood and the Outlaws #21-22 [2016 - ] - introduction[/LIST][/INDENT][/LIST]
[CENTER]"I'm just trying to understand what she sees in you. She seems to think you're special."
Faye Gunn to Jason Todd about Ma Gunn (Red Hood and the Outlaws #22 [2016 - ]) [/CENTER]
[QUOTE=Aahz;4132580]I guess it was because it was the frist time they had an adult Jason in the comics. And Hush is a pretty popular story arc.
I'm actually wandering more why it never caught on in the comics, the white streak seems pretty popular among fans and is quit iconic.[/QUOTE]
That makes sense. I wonder if the animated movie that has (I think) been announced will have a white-streaked Jason then.
Based on the responses you got for why the white streak never caught on, I can sorta see why it didn't, but a part of me kinda wish it did, probably because of all the fanart I've seen. :p
[QUOTE=Sergard;4132586]2) Jason looked too old with the white streak
I'm indifferent about the white streak. Some fan artworks make it look really cool. And in comics it's more the artstyle of the artist that dictates how old Jason looks than the white streak.[/QUOTE]
This part is interesting to me. I could've sworn I've seen, either from when I used to lurk on these boards and/or the Jason tag on tumblr, that Jason tends to get drawn much older than he should be. is this true?
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4132976]Jason in general was a continuity and writing mess since his resurrection and up to the N52. Unlike say, Bucky, there was no real plans or ideas for Jason's resurrection. Winnick simply thought it would be neat to have him as a one off villain. When turned out fans loved him, then was when he scrambled to justify his return, clumsily retconnig Hush and tying the whole thing to IC.
Afterwards, Jason was used as writers saw fit without caring about keeping his character consistent and often, just for sheer shock value.
When Countdown happened, it seemed like editorial had decided on a direction for him, but between the poor reception and Morrison doing things his way, they backpedaled hard at the end to undo all work on Jason and push him under the rug again.
After that, Daniels decided to turn Jason into Dick's Joker but luckily, that didn't panned out either. Finally, with the animated movie being a big success and the reboot looming into the horizon, editorial was able to find a direction for Jason and stick to it until now.
That said, I never liked the white streak, is sort of a generic characteristic for "badass and brooding" characters and there was nothing justifying its existence in the comics (unlike Parallax's streak) so I was happy to see it go.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for this in-depth explanation! :D
Here comes a new fanfic list about the tropes [B]Time Travel and Aging / De-aging[/B], as promised.
[URL="https://archiveofourown.org/works/11329791/chapters/25359972"]The View From Jade[/URL], by [B]@lowflyingfruit[/B]. Jason ends transported to the past, to the first days of Bruce as Batman, when he still doesn't have a Robin, and, call him overprotective, but he decides that he won't let happen the chance of Dick becoming a child crimefighter. Teen audience, no ships, but brotherly love. Well, unless the final chapters change that. It feels like the story is about to end, but the chapter count doesn't mark a definite number of chapters. I like this fick a lot.
[URL="https://archiveofourown.org/works/16731591/chapters/39246387"]Show me Yesterday, for I can’t Find Today[/URL], by [B]@redtruthed[/B]. Jason gets hit by something and gets transported to the past, just before he is about to find his death, while the young Jason of that times is transported to the future at the same time. A lot of drama and family bonding. Teen readers, no shippy, and foul language.
[URL="https://archiveofourown.org/works/15532380/chapters/36055941#main"]Death Sucks (and then you Live)[/URL], by [B]@CaptainOzone[/B]. A witch casts an spell upon Robin Jason and he is briefly transported to the future where he meets himself as the Red Hood. He gets shocked by what he sees, but before he gets back to his time, future Jason gives him a piece of advise. And then, things start to happen. It says Mature target, but I think it's pretty safe for teen readers. No ship, just drama and comfort and feels. This fic was very sweet, I liked it.
[URL="https://archiveofourown.org/works/14519379/chapters/33545871"]Nature and Nurture[/URL], by [B]@lurkinglurkerwholurks[/B]. A spell hits Bruce, who gets de-aged to be a six years older again. His family then has to take care of him in different ages of his life with him not remembering anything from that given age forward, or even the previous age he had just pass. The narrative is sort of divided in arcs that deal with Bruce at different ages, each arc centered and written around a different character. It's not Jason-centric, but he's the first one who deals with Bruce and, iirc, the writer said that he will do so again in upcoming arcs. It's not finished, but there are lots and lots of words to read already. Teen rated, no ships, and a ton of drama.
[URL="https://archiveofourown.org/works/13036068/chapters/29818341"]Two Dead Birds[/URL], by [B]@InsaneTrollLogic[/B]. As I already said, this is one of the best written works I've seen in AO3. I don't want to spoil much, because I want you all to read it with a fresh and unspoiled mind, but a base summary doesn't harm, right? Jason gets transported to the past and, well, he has a plan. I would say, for the nature of the narration alone, and because the violence and emotional pain (it's not angsty, but it has mature emotional struggling), this work is really aimed to mature readers. But I guess teens could enjoy it too. No ships at all.
[URL="https://archiveofourown.org/works/10871385/chapters/24150036"]Retrograde Motion[/URL], by [B]@Lysical[/B]. Jason gets de-aged and doesn't remember most of his past. A lot of drama and a lot of warm. The family dealing with what's basically a tootler Jason. It says Teen targeted, but I would say it's mostly Gen but for a few of scenes with reference to murderings. Artemis and Bizarro are part of the cast. There are no ships, but you will read close familial relationships between a lot of characters.
[URL="https://archiveofourown.org/works/18378512"]Life, if Well Lived[/URL], by @CaptainOzone. This one-shot tells the story of Jason time-travelling back to the time in which Bruce's parents were still alive, and meeting them in a certain, sensible date. It's a nice read. Teen readers, gen ships.
[URL="https://archiveofourown.org/works/18197330/chapters/43045388"]A Hundred Miles through the Desert[/URL], by [B]@acrobats[/B]. This is still ongoing, only 5 chapters long at the time I write these words; but I liked it enough to comment on it. It's a time-travelling story in which Jason gets transported 28 years into the past. And he cannot remember why or how. There, he mets Bruce after his parents death: a very stubborn 8 yo kid who is determined to make Jason helping him investigate their manslaughtering. It's heart-warming and even has a bit of mystery. Teen readers, gen ships.
And that's all for now. There are dozens of works with these two tropes out there, but these are the ones I know (I think two of them were recommended by other users as well). If you want to add any other recommended work, you're welcome.
Thanks for the recommendations. Hard to find many Outlaws fanfics with the Rebirth crew in them (Hopes for a Bastard's last few chapters only just brought in Artemis and Biz).
[QUOTE=Sergard;4133153]Maybe a little slash-y but still a beautiful fanart. (And I love how fast some artists react to new information/appearances)
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[URL="https://twitter.com/fade_unlimited/status/1084481164100874240"]Here is[/URL] the colored version.
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[url]https://archiveofourown.org/works/11230368/chapters/25096089[/url]
Father’s Day - It’s short, sweet and a nice read.
We need more Babs & Jason post new52 interactions.
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4135246][url]https://archiveofourown.org/works/11230368/chapters/25096089[/url]
Father’s Day - It’s short, sweet and a nice read.
We need more Babs & Jason post new52 interactions.[/QUOTE]
It is surprisingly rare to find the two in a fanfic together, especially without the rest of the Bat Family.
Oh, I just remembered. In the "aĺlies - lost in translation" section, we forgot to mention Scarlet. I know we don't tend to talk about Redhead Morrison Jason, but I wouldn't drop her out of the grid forever. I wouldn't even dismiss the chance that someone could try and bring her back into continuity at some point.
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4135286]Oh, I just remembered. In the "aĺlies - lost in translation" section, we forgot to mention Scarlet. I know we don't tend to talk about Redhead Morrison Jason, but I wouldn't drop her out of the grid forever. I wouldn't even dismiss the chance that someone could try and bring her back into continuity at some point.[/QUOTE]
I added her to the list. But somehow I was under the impression that Scarlet was the woman/girl in RHatO #14 who talks to Jason after the Outlaws have defeated Pyg and healed the Dollotrons.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4135583]I added her to the list. But somehow I was under the impression that Scarlet was the woman/girl in RHatO #14 who talks to Jason after the Outlaws have defeated Pyg and healed the Dollotrons.[/QUOTE]
Huh. Reread that issue and no indication that its Scarlet. None their masks came off.
[QUOTE=AJpyro;4135599]Huh. Reread that issue and no indication that its Scarlet. None their masks came off.[/QUOTE]
It's more of a gut feeling because Pyg states that he meets Red Hood for the first time - and then there is that healed Dollotron woman, Jason reaches out his hands and promises her she will be fine. And pre-New52, when Jason and Sasha/Scarlet met for the first time, Jason did something similar. He reached out his hand and said to her that she could trust him.
But no, there are no real indications that this was Scarlet in RHatO #14. But I like to believe it's her - and that she has more luck in this continuity than in the old one.
As a side note: The OP nearly reached the limit of 10000 characters. I still can delete some quotes or outsource information in extra posts if necessary, so everything is fine. But somehow I'm surprised that 10000 characters aren't enough to stuff everything in one post. (Although I probably overdid it a little bit with the quotes.)
As a second side note: I saw in the Wonder Woman subforum that WW fans are going to start a [URL="https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?120292-The-Wonder-Woman-Golden-Age-Reread"]WW Golden Age reread[/URL].
Maybe we could do the same for Jason, starting with his pre-crisis first appearance in Batman #357? (And then switch between Batman and Detective Comics so that we follow the right chronology)
I haven't checked it yet, but at least #357 can be bought digitally on ReadDC and Comixology for 1,99$. Does anybody know if there have been sales for old Batman or Detective Comics issues in the past?