You guys realize that other than number 3, the "redesigns" are just mix and match of Arkham Knight (Number 2) and Injustice's (Number 1) designs, right?
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You guys realize that other than number 3, the "redesigns" are just mix and match of Arkham Knight (Number 2) and Injustice's (Number 1) designs, right?
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4314507]You guys realize that other than number 3, the "redesigns" are just mix and match of Arkham Knight (Number 2) and Injustice's (Number 1) designs, right?[/QUOTE]
And for whatever reason, the "Thot" design reminds me of the designs Harley has nowadays.
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4314507]You guys realize that other than number 3, the "redesigns" are just mix and match of Arkham Knight (Number 2) and Injustice's (Number 1) designs, right?[/QUOTE]
Number 4 is the best of the mix. I mean it's not like them them being recycled is a bad thing. They are fan ideas based on those outfits.
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4314227]I am glad DC never cares for fan redesigns because jeez, those are bad.[/QUOTE]
Can you maybe be a little more disrespectful towards the artist?
If you don't like the designs, fine. But there is no need to be so rude/to belittle the artist's work. The only bad thing here is your behavior.
Since when are we criticizing fan artworks on the same level like official DC artworks?
This artist doesn't get paid to draw Jason. She just loves the character and enjoys making those designs - and shared them on her twitter so that other people can also enjoy them.
Just in case, in my case, I want to make it clear that I didn't mean to be disrespectful to the artist. I was just agreeing in that the design were reminiscent of the AK designs (and they are, probably on purpose). And the last one reminded me of current Harley's (and I think that's on purpose too).
[QUOTE=Sergard;4314709]Can you maybe be a little more disrespectful towards the artist?
If you don't like the designs, fine. But there is no need to be so rude/to belittle the artist's work. The only bad thing here is your behavior.
Since when are we criticizing fan artworks on the same level like official DC artworks?
This artist doesn't get paid to draw Jason. She just loves the character and enjoys making those designs - and shared them on her twitter so that other people can also enjoy them.[/QUOTE]
Any work that is put out there to be publicly seen is fair game to criticize. And I criticize official works and fan works by the same standards. If I see something I think is bad or good, I say so.
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4315009]Any work that is put out there to be publicly seen is fair game to criticize. And I criticize official works and fan works by the same standards. If I see something I think is bad or good, I say so.[/QUOTE]
This is how I view the subject. If you create something you must expect criticism. I've had people use profanity and tell me to literally die in reviews of my different fanfiction stories, but I try not to take any of it to heart. On the flipside, I've received constructive criticism which has helped me improve greatly as an author along with several fascinating ideas I've since incorporated into different works (with attribution of course).
[QUOTE=Celgress;4315078]This is how I view the subject. If you create something you must expect criticism. I've had people use profanity and tell me to literally die in reviews of my different fanfiction stories, but I try not to take any of it to heart. On the flipside, I've received constructive criticism which has helped me improve greatly as an author along with several fascinating ideas I've since incorporated into different works (with attribution of course).[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Any creative that doesn't receive feedback is in risk of becoming stagnant.
Anyways, Pete Woods give us a look at the work that goes into making an issue of the series
[url]https://twitter.com/thatpetewoods/status/1119413192730513409[/url]
@Zaresh: I didn't mean you. There is nothing wrong with your comment.
But I'm completely disagreeing with Dark.
I know there are people on the internet that say horrible stuff like Celgress mentioned and artists have to deal with that. But I don't expect such people here in this thread.
And writing something like "I am glad DC never cares for fan redesigns because jeez, those are bad." is definitely not "constructive criticism".
In my opinion, it's also BS to criticize official works and fan works by the same standards. An official design always aims to fit the story line and personality of the character.
You shouldn't look at a fan design and analyze how it would fit in the DC main continuity. The artist here obviously just wanted to play with elements of different franchises and show how that designs look on Jason.
As someone who has also shared art online, I do think that we need to take into account that most fanartists do it for fun and don't expect themselves to have to keep improving or measure up to professional standards. Even if I am given criticism, unless it's something easy I can just pay attention next time, I know that I don't have the time and energy to train myself because I have my own profession that takes priority. So constant or harsh criticism on fanartists doesn't help as much as you think it does professional artists and also risks discouraging people from sharing in fear of not living up to your standards, which is bad for any fandom.
Jason's got some moves. And him dancing next to Scarecrow is maybe a reference to Arkham Knight?
Man-Bat looks surprisingly elegant.
[video=youtube;JRk5r0BH50c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLYq7H1T5SzMdz7z58hTvkTyvjBuBm_2BV&time_continue=3&v=JRk5r0BH50c[/video]
[QUOTE]Who says the Dark Knight doesn't dance? Batman celebrated his big birthday this weekend with a blowout featuring friends, family, a Batman-themed cake and a dance party to rival the biggest club in Gotham. Enjoy this special animated anniversary clip featuring some of Gotham's most infamous residents breaking out their wildest moves. Happy birthday, Batman![/QUOTE]
And congratulations to everyone for reaching page 100 :D
[QUOTE=Sergard;4315371]Jason's got some moves. And him dancing next to Scarecrow is maybe a reference to Arkham Knight?
Man-Bat looks surprisingly elegant.
[video=youtube;JRk5r0BH50c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLYq7H1T5SzMdz7z58hTvkTyvjBuBm_2BV&time_continue=3&v=JRk5r0BH50c[/video]
And congratulations to everyone for reaching page 100 :D[/QUOTE]
Dude. Bats has been dancing since the 60s!
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OMG! I love this :D
Some rumors emerged: [URL="https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/04/22/dc-comics-game-similar-destiny-reveal/"]"Warner Bros. Will Reportedly Unveil Outlaws DC Comics Game Very Soon".[/URL]
But reading the article it isn't even clear if Jason and the other Outlaws from the comic will appear in the game at all. That's sad.
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([URL="https://twitter.com/AllGamesDelta_/status/1120200734165938176"]source[/URL])
[QUOTE=Sergard;4317928]Some rumors emerged: [URL="https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2019/04/22/dc-comics-game-similar-destiny-reveal/"]"Warner Bros. Will Reportedly Unveil Outlaws DC Comics Game Very Soon".[/URL]
But reading the article it isn't even clear if Jason and the other Outlaws from the comic will appear in the game at all. That's sad.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4vAgUDXoAAuoWa.jpg[/IMG]
([URL="https://twitter.com/AllGamesDelta_/status/1120200734165938176"]source[/URL])[/QUOTE]
I guess not, but... it would be weird if they don't appear, being a DC Comics game especifically, to be honest. And the font in the title is like the one in the comic series, just slightly more stylized.
And 26th is a day before Jason's death (commonly spread) date, iirc.
(Edit: totally unrelated, shameless off-topic, but the books by Scott McCloud about making comics are great (the less technical ones). Just in case someone is interesed in what's making a comic about—I mention this because we were commenting on tips about art and comics a few pages ago? Well, I'm reading two right now because other reasons and they are fun and easy to follow).
Guess we’ll find out Friday. It’ll be a nice surprise if it’s true (and Jason is involved).
There have been other Outlaws at DC.
There was an [URL="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Outlaws_Vol_1"]Outlaws[/URL] Series in the early 90s.
And there was an [URL="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Batman:_Outlaws_Vol_1"]Batman: Outlaws[/URL] 3 issue mini series in 2000.
Please let it be about Jason and the Outlaws!
[QUOTE=Aahz;4318106]There have been other Outlaws at DC.
There was an [URL="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Outlaws_Vol_1"]Outlaws[/URL] Series in the early 90s.
And there was an [URL="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Batman:_Outlaws_Vol_1"]Batman: Outlaws[/URL] 3 issue mini series in 2000.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm. I don't think they're going to use such small IPs or publications to launch a new IP. They could easily go with a brand new IP for that. This is either an Outlaws (and Red Hood) game or an entirely new concept for the game alone, I guess.
I think it may end up being RHatO++ (the Outlaws being a broad concept). There were rumours about a new series for Red Hood in the DC streaming service a year and half ago. And then, they had a lot of positive feedback from games like Injustice 2. They know there is public interested in the character, and these make for free promotion on the net if the game is about their favourite team (but the fanbase isn't big enough that there will be too many fans who will complain and report negative feedback). Kind of what happened with Shazam or Guardians of the Galaxy in the movies, I think.
We will see. And soon, it seems.
Okay, the game itself seems more and more unlikely. The original source of the rumor is 4chan. So everything is probably fake.
Maybe Friday will prove me wrong but I don't have high hopes for it.
(@Zaresh: Thanks for the Scott McCloud's books suggestion. I'll give them a try when I have some time. :D)
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4318124]Hmmm. I don't think they're going to use such small IPs or publications to launch a new IP. They could easily go with a brand new IP for that. This is either an Outlaws (and Red Hood) game or an entirely new concept for the game alone, I guess[/QUOTE]Even if it quite obscure, Batman:Outlaw could make for a fun game. It is basically the Batfamily on the run from some military black ops unit, that uses lots of attack helicopters. It's iirc a pretty action packed story.
[QUOTE=Aahz;4318235]Even if it quite obscure, Batman:Outlaw could make for a fun game. It is basically the Batfamily on the run from some military black ops unit, that uses lots of attack helicopters. It's iirc a pretty action packed story.[/QUOTE]
Interesting.
They were speculating about a game like The Division, right? A game like that with that premise could be pretty cool, actually. Not the kind of game I usually play, but still, a fun game.
(@Sergard, just remember that they're not as much about drawing as they're about how to tell and understand stories in comic format as a whole)
Come to think of it, a Red Hood and the Outlaws game could play a lot like the Saints Row games.
I think a RHatO game would be cool, but at this point I've stopped listening to all the video game rumors. I've seen so many. :p
"NEVERMIND
Outlaws is fake. The background is stolen from someone's artstation [url]https://wittmannfx.artstation.com/projects/lVrdKJ[/url] "
Right under the original tweet
Well that was quick
The idea was fun while it lasted
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4319080]"NEVERMIND
Outlaws is fake. The background is stolen from someone's artstation [url]https://wittmannfx.artstation.com/projects/lVrdKJ[/url] "
Right under the original tweet
Well that was quick[/QUOTE]
:( Sigh. Too good to be true.
The entire New 52 RHATO run DCYou R/A runs are on the DC Universe apps. Issues 1 - 18 of the Rebirth run are on there as well.
While fake, I still think a Saints Row style game with the Outlaws would be pretty right up the same style. Maybe combined with some of the fighting aspects of the Arkham gams?
Look what I [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/DCcomics/comments/bgd6t1/updated_batboys_and_their_justice_league/"]found on Reddit[/URL].
Thoughts?
Personally, I prefer Jason and Roy as friends but not as team partners (and I love it in general when Roy interacts with the batboys. There are only a few moments between him and Damian but those few I really enjoyed. I also believe that Roy and Tim could have a really great dynamic.) I would actually exchange Roy with Connor Hawke. I have a feeling that Jason and Connor could make an awesome team-up.
And I think this picture is meant to separate the families in "generations" - but I don't really care about that aspect. I actually dislike the idea that characters have to stick with their age group. (So that's a plus for the Outlaws since Artemis is older than Jason and Bizarro is only like a month old.)
I'd put Kyle or Guy in Jason's line. And call me crazy but I'd also like to see Jason and Jay Garrick interact.
No idea for the Aquaman family.
If this was an extended grid with more family members I'd put Kara and Barbara together - and Batwoman and John Stewart since both have a military background.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4319616]Look what I [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/DCcomics/comments/bgd6t1/updated_batboys_and_their_justice_league/"]found on Reddit[/URL].
Thoughts?
Personally, I prefer Jason and Roy as friends but not as team partners (and I love it in general when Roy interacts with the batboys. There are only a few moments between him and Damian but those few I really enjoyed. I also believe that Roy and Tim could have a really great dynamic.) I would actually exchange Roy with Connor Hawke. I have a feeling that Jason and Connor could make an awesome team-up.
And I think this picture is meant to separate the families in "generations" - but I don't really care about that aspect. I actually dislike the idea that characters have to stick with their age group. (So that's a plus for the Outlaws since Artemis is older than Jason and Bizarro is only like a month old.)
I'd put Kyle or Guy in Jason's line. And call me crazy but I'd also like to see Jason and Jay Garrick interact.
No idea for the Aquaman family.
If this was an extended grid with more family members I'd put Kara and Barbara together - and Batwoman and John Stewart since both have a military background.[/QUOTE]
The Aquaman family needs to be expanded. But having someone like Guy Gardner with the Outlaws would be interesting. Guy has clashed with Bruce a lot, but it would be interesting to seem him interact with Jason. As for a Speedster, what about Jessie Quick? She's not on that list, and would add another woman to the group.
Of course another Lantern to consider could be one from the Jessica Cruz/Simon Baz duo. Both are quite new, and are basically stuck in the shadows of the other Earth Green Lanterns.
[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4319634]The Aquaman family needs to be expanded. But having someone like Guy Gardner with the Outlaws would be interesting. Guy has clashed with Bruce a lot, but it would be interesting to seem him interact with Jason. As for a Speedster, what about Jessie Quick? She's not on that list, and would add another woman to the group.
Of course, another Lantern to consider could be one from the Jessica Cruz/Simon Baz duo. Both are quite new, and are basically stuck in the shadows of the other Earth Green Lanterns.[/QUOTE]
Speaking of Aquaman generation, how old is Tula? Garth is Dick's generation, Aquababy is basically Damian's, and Jackson Hyde is Tim's.