Jason Todd: Robin, Red Hood, Arkham Knight Appreciation 2019

[QUOTE=Sergard;4334508]Spoiler me all you want. DCeased is a title for which I want to be spoilered. There is no appeal to me to read a series if all my favs are dead from the start.

But I have to admit:
[SPOIL]Dick AND Tim being zombified was a surprise. Tom Taylor already killed them in Injustice so I thought they'd be save in DCeased. At least one of them. But maybe someone finds a cure and Dick and Tim will turn back to normal later?[/SPOIL][/QUOTE]

[spoil] maybe Taylor just really likes Damian(kidding)

I’m not sure about a cure though, I mean the virus is effectively a mutated version of the anti-life equation that has via the internet and infects anyone who looks at a screen...so it might be a bit hard.[/spoil]

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4334475]Connecting, eh?

Man, I hope DC wakes up and releases these as a poster like Marvel does.[/QUOTE]

There are a few covers that I'd totally buy as a poster, like probably every RHatO variant cover by Yasmine Putri.

[QUOTE=sifighter;4334538][spoil] maybe Taylor just really likes Damian(kidding)

I’m not sure about a cure though, I mean the virus is effectively a mutated version of the anti-life equation that has via the internet and infects anyone who looks at a screen...so it might be a bit hard.[/spoil][/QUOTE]

[SPOIL]If that's how the virus works, then the whole batfam is pretty much f*cked. The idea actually reminds me a little bit of the novel series "The Ring" (also adapted into movies). Although DCeased is way more effective. [/SPOIL]

[QUOTE=Sergard;4334588]There are a few covers that I'd totally buy as a poster, like probably every RHatO variant cover by Yasmine Putri.



[SPOIL]If that's how the virus works, then the whole batfam is pretty much f*cked. The idea actually reminds me a little bit of the novel series "The Ring" (also adapted into movies). Although DCeased is way more effective. [/SPOIL][/QUOTE]

[Spoil] Honestly, Batman was ok at first, he actually had his cave computer safely set up cut off from outside internet and with firewalls up but unlike the batcave he didn't cut the connection to the rest of the wayne mansion until it was to late.Like I said the reason Damian is still ok by the end of the first issue is that he was at Jon's house and that Superman moved fast enough to destroy any screen that could infect them. If not for that he'd probably be biting into Bruce as well.

Funny when you think that Taylor has Damian siding with superman again. [/spoil]

More about Jason's death with O'Neil

[url]https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/1123708682364162049[/url]

[QUOTE=Sergard;4334181]Found this on Reddit: DCeased #2 - Midtown Comics Exclusive by InHyuk Lee

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Sweet!
Thats the second DCeased cover with Jason and Joker now. Its two different artists but still, I wonder if the juxtaposition was planned, with Joker coming off as a threat to Robin Jason in the first and then Red Hood returning to beat the Joker in the second. :D

[QUOTE=RedBird;4334701]Sweet!
Thats the second DCeased cover with Jason and Joker now. Its two different artists but still, I wonder if the juxtaposition was planned, with Joker coming off as a threat to Robin Jason in the first and then Red Hood returning to beat the Joker in the second. :D[/QUOTE]

Joker wanted to do Monster Mash, while Jason wanted to do Thriller. Looks like Jason won.

[QUOTE=G-Potion;4332841]Also Woods said last last pages of #36 is gonna change everything. I wonder how that syncs up with Bendis's story.[/QUOTE]

When did he say that?

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4335216]When did he say that?[/QUOTE]

[URL="https://twitter.com/thatpetewoods/status/1117512132931805185"]Here it is.[/URL]

Thanks!

Hmmm. Considering the timing, he's probably talking about the "sidekicks" mentioned in the solicits.

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4334662]More about Jason's death with O'Neil

[url]https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/1123708682364162049[/url][/QUOTE]

I always feel so mixed whenever I come across more interviews like this.

I know I know, certain circumstances that have brought Jason from then to now are pretty essential

But still, its always kinda sad to hear that Jason was written out so harshly for [I]absolutely nothing [/I] since the end goal of getting rid of Robin never lasted.

I don't think I would ever reverse his death (at least not in main continuity) But I still wonder what might have happened if he could have stuck around.


Hearing O'Neil recall the shocked and appalled responses after the kids death is surprising though. Not the responses themselves, but the fact that I don't usually hear DC describe and reiterate the public's distaste for the DITF comics subject matter/gimmick.

Does anybody know if these shop exclusive variant covers are normally collected later on in the trade paperback?
The DCeased #2 cover above does look really nice but shipping costs are pretty much a deal breaker.

[QUOTE=sifighter;4334655][Spoil] Honestly, Batman was ok at first, he actually had his cave computer safely set up cut off from outside internet and with firewalls up but unlike the batcave he didn't cut the connection to the rest of the wayne mansion until it was to late.Like I said the reason Damian is still ok by the end of the first issue is that he was at Jon's house and that Superman moved fast enough to destroy any screen that could infect them. If not for that he'd probably be biting into Bruce as well.

Funny when you think that Taylor has Damian siding with superman again. [/spoil][/QUOTE]

[SPOIL]If I understand that correctly, there's a good chance that Bruce does not turn into a zombie because the virus isn't transmitted by bites.

That's funny indeed, I didn't think of this that way. Let's hope that Jon and Lois don't die. Otherwise there'll probably be a DCeased Superman who matches Injustice Superman.
It will be interesting to see how characters are going to fight for their lifes when they can't use a lot of technology.[/SPOIL]

[QUOTE=Badou;4333108]A lot of people guessed that the red masked guy in Bendis' Leviathan event was Jason but that felt way too obvious because of the design, but it seems he is or Bendis will be playing around with the idea at least.[/QUOTE]

It certainly seems too obvious, doesn't it? Especially with Damian literally pointing it out and almost waving a flag saying "This is obvious!" while a marching band follows him through the panels.

[QUOTE=Sergard;4336109][SPOIL]If I understand that correctly, there's a good chance that Bruce does not turn into a zombie because the virus isn't transmitted by bites.

That's funny indeed, I didn't think of this that way. Let's hope that Jon and Lois don't die. Otherwise there'll probably be a DCeased Superman who matches Injustice Superman.
It will be interesting to see how characters are going to fight for their lifes when they can't use a lot of technology.[/SPOIL][/QUOTE]

[Spoil] Actually before Batman gets attacked he actually mentions that there is a blood through blood transfer indicating that not only does screens turn you but also so does bites or at least blood.

Also not sure how the tech thing will actually work out because even though he is technically the source of it, the comic in it’s captions seems to indicate that Cyborg is still very much alive and not among the undead. [/spoil]

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Aww I'd love to have one like this.

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"[I]#DCeased #1 is out today! Really excited to show you the iconic @MidtownComics exclusive #DCeased cover for issue 2 by InHyuk Lee. And share that... it joins with issue #1! Reminder, I'll be signing at @MidtownComics on Wednesday May 15 - all the way from Australia.[/I]"

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[QUOTE=Sergard;4337666][URL="https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/status/1123624591778148352"]Tom Taylor:[/URL]

"[I]#DCeased #1 is out today! Really excited to show you the iconic @MidtownComics exclusive #DCeased cover for issue 2 by InHyuk Lee. And share that... it joins with issue #1! Reminder, I'll be signing at @MidtownComics on Wednesday May 15 - all the way from Australia.[/I]"

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so this is going to be a poster

[QUOTE=redmax99;4337732]so this is going to be a poster[/QUOTE]

So far a poster has not been announced. These are the exclusive and connecting variant covers of DCeased #1 and #2 done by InHyuk Lee for Midtown Comics next to each other.
But I do hope that InHyuk Lee will do similar covers for the remaining issues of DCeased and that there'll be some posters too later on.

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(Tim Drake and Jason Todd)



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Oh, I think I've just fallen in love with the second one. I remember watching those cartoons when I was a kid. Lovely.

Since RH:O #34 comes out on Wednesday, any guesses what the story will be about?

[QUOTE]Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016-) #34
Jason Todd heads to France to expand the Iceberg Lounge’s sphere of influence-or are his motives more ambitious? Meanwhile, the Penguin gains an unexpected ally in his bid to topple the Red Hood, but the DCU’s greatest Outlaw is busy battling a threat from his past who feels like his recent aspirations might threaten more than just Gotham City. Brace yourselves for the shocking return of Essence![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sergard;4338243]Since RH:O #34 comes out on Wednesday, any guesses what the story will be about?[/QUOTE]

No idea, to be honest.

Jason tells his gang at the Casino that he's leaving to make a business deal when he's really on his way to find out why/how Penguin has a an Al Caste hit squad.

Penguin's unexpected ally will be either Bunker (whose unknowingly been compromised), Wingman or Lex/an agent of Lex.

So now that Jason Todd is a regular I assume this will be the season where he gets offed
when he comes back to be redhood whos gonna play him ? Curran is to small

I wonder why Jason goes to France. The last time that he went there was in Red Hood/Arsenal. I hope Lobdell does not want to bring Hero Manifesto back. And yes, I had to look the name up.
Red Hood/Arsenal was a little too goofy for my taste, so I don't remember a lot of details.

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And here's something from 2017 that I just found.

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Great find! :)

Reading old RHatO issues and knowing that the Leviathan event hangs over Jason's head like the sword of Damocles, some scenes really hurt my heart.

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(RHatO #20; book title: "Become what you are".)

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(RHatO #21)

Second season of the Red Hood Fan Series has started:

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[QUOTE=Sergard;4339282]Reading old RHatO issues and knowing that the Leviathan event hangs over Jason's head like the sword of Damocles, some scenes really hurt my heart.[/QUOTE]

Well, I'm guessing that writers know way, way in advance possible developments. So I wouldn't be surprised if Lobdell knew of Leviathan back then.

At least right now it’s only “help me prove that Hood’s not leviathan” instead of something like “It must be Hood/Hood’s the prime suspect”. That’s progress! Not much, but it’s something.

[QUOTE=Arsenal;4339699]At least right now it’s only “help me prove that Hood’s not leviathan” instead of something like “It must be Hood/Hood’s the prime suspect”. That’s progress! Not much, but it’s something.[/QUOTE]

It still may be him. My advise is to not get our hopes high, because it feels like a setting for him to be defended by Damian and other members of the clan, only to be him behind Leviathan in the end. Now, it may be that Leviathan is not a really bad guy in the end, but... *shrugs".

I don't think Jason is Leviathan. It's probably Talia again or something.

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4339679]Well, I'm guessing that writers know way, way in advance possible developments. So I wouldn't be surprised if Lobdell knew of Leviathan back then.[/QUOTE]

That reminds me of this scene from RHatO #16.

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Less than a year later, Amanda Waller literally hacked Brainiac in Justice League: No Justice.

[QUOTE=oasis1313;4339821]I don't think Jason is Leviathan. It's probably Talia again or something.[/QUOTE]

Talia should be the obvious guess (not Jason; thank you, Damian)
But it doesn't add up with the story in "DC's Year of the Villain Special (2019-) #1". Leviathan calls Batgirl "Barbara". I don't think that's something Talia would do.
On the other hand, Jason wouldn't wear a strange mask and a cape. He even stated in the TT Annual that he doesn't like capes. But seeing how Damian behaves in the Special compared to his falling-out with Jason in TT, it doesn't look like Bendis actually read the annual.

[QUOTE=Sergard;4340167]Talia should be the obvious guess (not Jason; thank you, Damian)
But it doesn't add up with the story in "DC's Year of the Villain Special (2019-) #1". Leviathan calls Batgirl "Barbara". I don't think that's something Talia would do.
On the other hand, Jason wouldn't wear a strange mask and a cape. He even stated in the TT Annual that he doesn't like capes. But seeing how Damian behaves in the Special compared to his falling-out with Jason in TT, it doesn't look like Bendis actually read the annual.[/QUOTE]

Well, Bendis did have Clark send Lois and Jon out into space with Jor-El. Considering the last time they saw him, Jor had been the brains behind numerous terrorist actions and vanished. But no questions were asked about it. And, apparently, barely into the trip, Bendis had Lois leave her 10-11 year old alone with Jor and head back home, without telling Clark. Considering just prior to Bendis coming on, Lois was a mama bear for both her Kryptonians.

I doubt Bendis read more than a summary of the characters before writing the annual. Considering what he's done to the Supers already.

[QUOTE=Sergard;4340167]Talia should be the obvious guess (not Jason; thank you, Damian)
But it doesn't add up with the story in "DC's Year of the Villain Special (2019-) #1". Leviathan calls Batgirl "Barbara". I don't think that's something Talia would do.
On the other hand, Jason wouldn't wear a strange mask and a cape. He even stated in the TT Annual that he doesn't like capes. But seeing how Damian behaves in the Special compared to his falling-out with Jason in TT, it doesn't look like Bendis actually read the annual.[/QUOTE]Leviathan obviously knows her backstory, and therefore her name.

But I don't think that that has to mean much. Huntress knew for example also Barbaras Identity when they met in the rebirth Issue of Batgirl and the Birds of Prey, due to her work for Spyral. So the Leviathan could either got this information somehow from Spyral or found it out the same way Spyral discovered it.