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[QUOTE=Zaresh;4620129]Apparently, there's another poll in the official Twitter account: [url]https://twitter.com/TheDCUniverse/status/1182355213933432832[/url][/QUOTE]
LOL Just like I said before, the Red Hood fans keep skewing it.
Based on comments, consensus is either he lives, or he dies with alot of 'he dies' comments insisting that they want Red Hood.
Again, I don't know what makes them think they will [I]definitely[/I] do a Red Hood arc even IF he dies. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[QUOTE=RedBird;4620254]LOL Just like I said before, the Red Hood fans keep skewing it.
Based on comments, consensus is either he lives, or he dies with alot of 'he dies' comments insisting that they want Red Hood.
Again, I don't know what makes them think they will [I]definitely[/I] do a Red Hood arc even IF he dies. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[/QUOTE]
Considering Red Hood was more about getting back at Bruce and Joker, I just don't know how much of an impact it would have. Plus, we really haven't gotten much of Jason's life before he became Robin in the show.
Well, within the context of the show changing Jason's vendetta so is against Dick and Slade would work as motivation for Red Hood.
[QUOTE=RedBird;4618640]Also I caught this whilst going back and forth between Rebirth and Post Crisis intro today
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Red Hood and the Outlaws Rebirth issue #1
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Batman issue #409[/QUOTE]
Ooh I love that kinda thing
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4619586]Artists have never been consistent when drawing Jason's parents, Catherine looks different on pretty much every appearance with the only consistent element being her red hair. Now, issue zero didn't show Willis doing anything good but it never showed him doing anything bad either, the worst thing that it showed was arguing with Catherine. And it did make a point of showing that Willis was proud of Jason, something that has been a constant for him through his appearances.
And no, is not a tattoo, is a scar.[/QUOTE]
I'm counting him neglecting Catherine so that Jason had to take care of her as a toddler, then involving him with his crime as bad. Not directly I guess. Not hitting him or something. He did it with the type of thinking that Jason can help him.
I think I see what you mean. He's not bad to Jason in his mind, but he has a skewed idea of what to teach a child.
Didn't he make it a tattoo? He got the scar, proud of it, then went to the tattoo parlor with Jason to make it an actual tattoo? In New 52 #0
[QUOTE=RedBird;4616973][URL="https://jasontod.tumblr.com/post/187909378211/jasontod-okay-this-is-really-important-how-long"]https://jasontod.tumblr.com/post/187909378211/jasontod-okay-this-is-really-important-how-long[/URL]
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Age and Timeline Recap with that as reference
Post Crisis backstory - 5th grade drop out
Post Crisis first meeting - 10-11?
Post Crisis Ma Gunn - 1 day
Rebirth Ma Gunn - a few months
Robin Training - 6 months
Pre Crisis debut - 12
Robin Debut - 12?
Zero Year - 12?
Death Certificate - 15
New 52/Rebirth origin - 16?
New 52 Red Hood - 19?
There's a panel I saw where Cass stood in front of his grave and Bruce said he'd be Cass' age if he grew up. The conclusion was he's 17 from Cass' age. Review?
I don't remember where I got New 52 16 and 19 from, I think one of them is subtracting the determined age from the 5-year timeline but that was a long time ago, I don't even remember the 5-year timeline. Let me review it again.
6 years ago - Batman - Zero Year - 12
5 years ago - Dick - Justice League - Mother - Babs unofficial - 13
4 years ago - Babs official - 14
3 years ago - Jason - Babs retired - Dick and Babs went to college - 16
2 years ago - Tim - 17
1 year ago - Damian - DickBats and DamiRobin - 18
New 52 start - 19
Yeah, I remember thinking that in the Zero Year tie-in issue he shouldn't look that big. The backup one in Batman #25 where he robbed a mini-mart fits better, and now that I remember that, I remember thinking Tim shouldn't be that big in the zero year backup in Batman #25.
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I'm counting him neglecting Catherine so that Jason had to take care of her as a toddler, then involving him with his crime as bad. Not directly I guess. Not hitting him or something. He did it with the type of thinking that Jason can help him.
I think I see what you mean. [B]He's not bad to Jason in his mind, but he has a skewed idea of what to teach a child. [/B]
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I think it's a case of 'every one is the hero in their own story', thus far, the day in the circus is the only fond memory both Jason and Willis can recall, beyond that there's no other example of Willis having any positive impact in Jasons life.
For some more reference by the way, of Willis's actions, beyond the fact that Jason claims Willis wasn't home often and that when he was, he would either have to tag along and be involved in crime OR have to drag his drunk dad to bed. RHATO #0
Here are a couple examples I could find of Willis displaying abusive behavior.
In [I]Red Hood/Arsenal #11[/I], Jason describes Willis beating Catherine for 'wasting money'.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/JuejOf7.jpg[/img]
And in [I]New52 Red Hood and the Outlaws #18[/I], Jason describes his trouble sleeping due to fears of his mother dying, or of fear that his father would follow through with his threat to shoot both Jason and his mother. Jason also mentions the discomfort of sleeping on bruises which could also be implying that he was physically abused whilst in his household, the source of the bruises is vague but you can certainly read into that as being Willis' doing.
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[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4620690]There's a panel I saw where Cass stood in front of his grave and Bruce said he'd be Cass' age if he grew up. The conclusion was he's 17 from Cass' age. Review?[/QUOTE]IIRC that scene took place on Jasons 18th Birthday.
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I wonder if the bat-shaped domino mask is Rocafort's idea of an easter egg - or if it's more of a symbol that Jason is starting to forgive Bruce for his part in the HiC massacre (and maybe the bad treatment in Event Leviathan).
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[QUOTE=Sergard;4622325]I wonder if the bat-shaped domino mask is Rocafort's idea of an easter egg - or if it's more of a symbol that Jason is starting to forgive Bruce for his part in the HiC massacre (and maybe the bad treatment in Event Leviathan).
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Forget about issue 25? Bruce beat the crap out of Jason (was a month before he could really move around) for, as it turns out, not shooting Penguin. Jason asked for Bruce to trust him, Bruce's actions spoke much more loudly than his words. And can't forget Bruce exiling him from Gotham.
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[I]Time for another reveal for our 1/6 DC - Rebirth line. The concept artist is Rafa Sandoval and will be sculpt by Paul Tan.
#XMStudios #XMStudiosGH #DC #RedHood[/I]
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[QUOTE=Sergard;4622325]I wonder if the bat-shaped domino mask is Rocafort's idea of an easter egg - or if it's more of a symbol that Jason is starting to forgive Bruce for his part in the HiC massacre (and maybe the bad treatment in Event Leviathan).
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Probably just Rocafort putting his personal style.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4622427][URL="https://twitter.com/XMStudiosGH/status/1182610695759847426"]GHeroes Europe[/URL]
[I]Time for another reveal for our 1/6 DC - Rebirth line. The concept artist is Rafa Sandoval and will be sculpt by Paul Tan.
#XMStudios #XMStudiosGH #DC #RedHood[/I]
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It looks Amazing but boy, $450 EUR is way, way too much.
Holy moly I need that statue
Better start saving XD
[QUOTE=RedBird;4622526]Holy moly I need that statue
Better start saving XD[/QUOTE]
Imagine breaking it when it falls because you are dusting your shelves.
I would cry blood.
I looked closely at their site, it seems like they only ship within Europe, so anyone in the US will also need to pay a middle man. What is with Jason getting exclusive and ridiculously expensive merchandise?
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4622436]It looks Amazing but boy, $450 EUR is way, way too much.[/QUOTE]Wow they have statues in their shop that are far more expensive, are their really people that are willing to pay that much for merch ?
[QUOTE=RedBird;4621072]I think it's a case of 'every one is the hero in their own story', thus far, the day in the circus is the only fond memory both Jason and Willis can recall, beyond that there's no other example of Willis having any positive impact in Jasons life.
For some more reference by the way, of Willis's actions, beyond the fact that Jason claims Willis wasn't home often and that when he was, he would either have to tag along and be involved in crime OR have to drag his drunk dad to bed. RHATO #0
Here are a couple examples I could find of Willis displaying abusive behavior.
In [I]Red Hood/Arsenal #11[/I], Jason describes Willis beating Catherine for 'wasting money'.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/JuejOf7.jpg[/img]
And in [I]New52 Red Hood and the Outlaws #18[/I], Jason describes his trouble sleeping due to fears of his mother dying, or of fear that his father would follow through with his threat to shoot both Jason and his mother. Jason also mentions the discomfort of sleeping on bruises which could also be implying that he was physically abused whilst in his household, the source of the bruises is vague but you can certainly read into that as being Willis' doing.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/ie0NH5H.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Oh yeah forgot about that
[QUOTE=Aahz;4621137]IIRC that scene took place on Jasons 18th Birthday.[/QUOTE]
Then Cass would be 18 and Tim would be 17... but I don't know enough about Tim timeline to confirm
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4622662]Then Cass would be 18 and Tim would be 17... but I don't know enough about Tim timeline to confirm[/QUOTE]No Tim had his 16t Birthday around that time.
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4622644]I looked closely at their site, it seems like they only ship within Europe, so anyone in the US will also need to pay a middle man. What is with Jason getting exclusive and ridiculously expensive merchandise?[/QUOTE]
GHeroes Europe is only the European retailer for XM Studios. There are other [URL="https://www.xm-studios.com/pages/retailers.aspx"]retailers[/URL]. None of them is based in the US but maybe some of them ship to the US.
[QUOTE=Aahz;4622655]Wow they have statues in their shop that are far more expensive, are their really people that are willing to pay that much for merch ?[/QUOTE]
I can't blame figure collectors for getting tempted, but yes, some of the stuff is really, really expensive. But then those figures are limited, have crazy details and weigh a few kilos.
I mean, just look at some of their stuff:
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Those figures are awesome. Wow.
Brief uptade in Titans.
So after episode 3, the second season is getting better. Episode 5 was nice, and the latest one, the one about Conner*, was good. I like how they're using Conner: he's a child, he's a phenomenon, does very weird things, has temper issues. He's a mess. He's a childlike and deadly mess, but a mess with a sweet* heart.
I like that it's looking like Jason is going to play the foil for him, apparently.. Well, it's more like a hope. It could end being very much in the way that comic Jason is with Bizarro, even. And it gives me some hope that they're not going to kill Jason in the season finale.
And I'm starting to see why they made Hank being some youth counsellor: for Jason and Conner, when Dick and Kori would be the ones for Rose and Rachel. And Donna for the the adults. Gar is good by himself, I guess. They're working a dynamic between different characters in the team.
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4623940]Those figures are awesome. Wow.
Brief uptade in Titans.
So after episode 3, the second season is getting better. Episode 5 was nice, and the latest one, the one about Conned, was good. I like how they're using Conner: he's a child, he's a phenomenon, does very weird things, has temper issues. He's a mess. He's a childlike and deadly mess, but a mess with a good heart.
I like that it's looking like Jason is going to play the foil for him, apparently.. Well, it's more like a hope. It could end being very much in the way that comic Jason is with Bizarro, even. And it gives me some hope that they're not going to kill Jason in the season finale.
And I'm starting to see why they made Hank being some youth counsellor: for Jason and Conner, when Dick and Kori would be the ones for Rose and Rachel. And Donna for the the adults. Gar is good by himself, I guess. They're working a dynamic between different characters in the team.[/QUOTE]
Tim fans probably aren't going to be excited, but yeah. Not the first time, since Young Justice had Conner with Dick over Tim (and knew Jason before Tim by default).
Jason bouncing off of Conner looks to be interesting. And since Conner saved his life, I think Jason is going to be a lot less confrontational with him over others. Just need to save his life. And rescue poor puppy Krypto.
I've only seen screenshots and a little clip on YouTube.
But since Conner Kent is my favorite member of the Super family and Jason is my favorite member of the Bat family, I'm obviously very biased and happy that those two share some scenes.
Although I still don't understand why Conner appears in Titans in the first place. Conner Kent is a character that I associate with Tim Drake and not with Dick Grayson. (I'm also confused by the Young Justice cartoon regarding that aspect.)
My guess is YJ and Titans used Conner since they needed a Super sidekick and that's Conner. Like a Robin equivalent and that's not really Kara.
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[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4624047]Tim fans probably aren't going to be excited, but yeah. Not the first time, since Young Justice had Conner with Dick over Tim (and knew Jason before Tim by default).
Jason bouncing off of Conner looks to be interesting. And since Conner saved his life, I think Jason is going to be a lot less confrontational with him over others. Just need to save his life. And rescue poor puppy Krypto.[/QUOTE]
He did say he owned him and didn't know how he was going to thank him, didn't he? That's why I think they're going to go with Jason being involved with Conner somehow.
Edit: My guess as for why Conner is pretty much the same that dietrich: they needed a super-family, and they went with him. I don't think they want to use Kara, given that she's the lead in another show already. And Conner is a conflicted character enough to fit in the team they're forming.
Edit: I'm guessing that, too is why they went with Conner in YJ. They could've used Kara, I guess, but it could feel a bit redundant, with another female alien in the team. Same reason why not using Starfire. It fitted better their team dynamics, I guess.
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[QUOTE=Sergard;4624058]I've only seen screenshots and a little clip on YouTube.
But since Conner Kent is my favorite member of the Super family and Jason is my favorite member of the Bat family, I'm obviously very biased and happy that those two share some scenes.
Although I still don't understand why Conner appears in Titans in the first place. Conner Kent is a character that I associate with Tim Drake and not with Dick Grayson. (I'm also confused by the Young Justice cartoon regarding that aspect.)[/QUOTE]
Young Justice is Tim's team from the 90s consisting of him, Conner, Cassie Sandsmark and Bart, so that's why they're there.
The real question is, why did they go with a hybrid of Dick's TT which is him, Wally, Gar, Roy, and Tim's YJ, or to be exact, Tim's TT, which is Conner, Cassie, Bart, Jaime, Miss Martian, and Aqualad for YJ
I think YJ just want to use the popular slash recent character as soon as possible, like how Damian's TT cartoon use Dick's team, while avoiding including too much of from the popular TT cartoon so it doesn't feel samey, so they ended up using a little bit of this and a little bit of that.
After that T probably use Conner because he's popular in YJ and at the same time because they can't use Supergirl because she has her own series in a different universe.
[URL="https://twitter.com/fade_bottomjay/status/1183403471451484166"]Fade[/URL] (birthday gift for Fade, artwork by JJMK)
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[URL="https://twitter.com/akkiyamia/status/1183045013757804545"]remina[/URL] (Dick and Jason)
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[I]Red Hood half/half commission from @mitografia_kr during LACC [/I]
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