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Year 15 Dick Nightwing possibly Jason Robin
Gen 3
Year 2 Jason Todd murdered
Year 4 Tim Drake Robin[/QUOTE]Who did this research, Tim becomes Robin (or at lest starts to train) in the same year Jason died. Even in real life there was barley a year between Jasons death and Tims origin story.
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A pretty good cosplay of Jason and Artemis that I found (was actually looking for fanart).
[QUOTE=Aahz;4610177]Who did this research, Tim becomes Robin (or at lest starts to train) in the same year Jason died. Even in real life there was barley a year between Jasons death and Tims origin story.[/QUOTE]
Apparently, it's not a research, @Aahz. As far as I can understand the news, it's how they're outlining the past timeline for the current and next years continuity. It still is a draft, apparently, too.
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Batman Family of crime fighters.
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[QUOTE=Zaresh;4610355]Apparently, it's not a research, @Aahz. As far as I can understand the news, it's how they're outlining the past timeline for the current and next years continuity. It still is a draft, apparently, too.[/QUOTE]But if they want to return to the time line that is closer to the original, why these changes.
The only reason I can see is that they will continue this wired trend of keeping Tim is his teens and ageing Jason up close to dicks generation.
[QUOTE=Aahz;4610478]But if they want to return to the time line that is closer to the original, why these changes.
The only reason I can see is that they will continue this wired trend of keeping Tim is his teens and ageing Jason up close to dicks generation.[/QUOTE]
Why? Because it works better for the characters they're promoting, maybe.
It ties them better, I guess.
I don't think they're letting Tim being a teen. In fact, I think they'll try to age him a little bit. In that timeline he has been a Robin a whole lot of time, so it will mean that he probably reached 18 when he changed from Robin to Red Robin, from year 4 to year 14.
They're probably aging Jason a little bit too, and making him stay dead for a little more than originally. That depends on how long he has his Red Hood persona before he shows up officially in the timeline as such, in Year 10. That makes 8 years from his death.
I've put all I could learn from those Bleeding Cool readings and my own in this table for Generation 3 here, in case you want to glance throughout it.
[url]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FIuB1B1lb2lhlfMYhm42qU9RfzhXmJ_w-jYo1USWk1Q/edit?usp=sharing[/url]
As some other users mentioned, it's not tying 1:1 year in the metaverse (?) with year in reality, and they're probably going to even short it more with whatever happened with the lost time that Manhattan's stolen. But I'm guessing that the gen 3 is pretty safe regarding how much time we see passing in that chart, and how much time actually passed in the comics. My best clue for that is Damian's age, because he seems to age 13 years from gen 3 up to our* current point in gen 4. I'm nominating COIE for the event that's going to help then de-aging characters and reassessing time.
They said that what we can see is still in the works, so, pfff. We will see next year, I guess. They could end even dropping the whole concept by then.
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4610635]Why? Because it works better for the characters they're promoting, maybe.
It ties them better, I guess.
I don't think they're letting Tim being a teen. In fact, I think they'll try to age him a little bit. In that timeline he has been a Robin a whole lot of time, so it will mean that he probably reached 18 when he changed from Robin to Red Robin, from year 4 to year 14.
They're probably aging Jason a little bit too, and making him stay dead for a little more than originally. That depends on how long he has his Red Hood persona before he shows up officially in the timeline as such, in Year 10. That makes 8 years from his death.
I've put all I could learn from those Bleeding Cool readings and my own in this table for Generation 3 here, in case you want to glance throughout it.
[url]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FIuB1B1lb2lhlfMYhm42qU9RfzhXmJ_w-jYo1USWk1Q/edit?usp=sharing[/url]
As some other users mentioned, it's not tying 1:1 year in the metaverse (?) with year in reality, and they're probably going to even short it more with whatever happened with the lost time that Manhattan's stolen. But I'm guessing that the gen 3 is pretty safe regarding how much time we see passing in that chart, and how much time actually passed in the comics. My best clue for that is Damian's age, because he seems to age 13 years from gen 3 up to out current point in gen 4. I'm nominating COIE for the event that's going to help then de-aging characters and reassessing time.
They said that what we can see is still in the works, so, pfff. We will see next year, I guess. They could end even dropping the whole concept by then.[/QUOTE]
However, I think Flashpoint could de-age characters again. So, Tim could be a teenager again.
Of course, it would be contradictory with Damian being 13, but when that have stopped DC.
[QUOTE=Konja7;4610680]However, I think Flashpoint could de-age characters again. So, Tim could be a teenager again.
Of course, it would be contradictory with Damian being 13, but when that have stopped DC.[/QUOTE]
Let's give them some credit: they're doing this because they want a comprehensive and coherent timeline—or so we're mean to believe. It would be a very bad start if they make some characters de-aging after flashpoint, and not some others. And I could totally see them making current Dick a 30-few year older (if they deage him with COIE to his late teens). He would come across as a millennial, which seems to be what the wanted to do a while back, right?
I mean, if it were me, I would make the whole gen 3 only 10 or 12 years at most. But, eh, whatever.
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4610635]Why? Because it works better for the characters they're promoting, maybe.
It ties them better, I guess.
I don't think they're letting Tim being a teen. In fact, I think they'll try to age him a little bit. In that timeline he has been a Robin a whole lot of time, so it will mean that he probably reached 18 when he changed from Robin to Red Robin, from year 4 to year 14.
They're probably aging Jason a little bit too, and making him stay dead for a little more than originally. That depends on how long he has his Red Hood persona before he shows up officially in the timeline as such, in Year 10. That makes 8 years from his death.
I've put all I could learn from those Bleeding Cool readings and my own in this table for Generation 3 here, in case you want to glance throughout it.
[url]https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FIuB1B1lb2lhlfMYhm42qU9RfzhXmJ_w-jYo1USWk1Q/edit?usp=sharing[/url]
As some other users mentioned, it's not tying 1:1 year in the metaverse (?) with year in reality, and they're probably going to even short it more with whatever happened with the lost time that Manhattan's stolen. But I'm guessing that the gen 3 is pretty safe regarding how much time we see passing in that chart, and how much time actually passed in the comics. My best clue for that is Damian's age, because he seems to age 13 years from gen 3 up to out current point in gen 4. I'm nominating COIE for the event that's going to help then de-aging characters and reassessing time.
They said that what we can see is still in the works, so, pfff. We will see next year, I guess. They could end even dropping the whole concept by then.[/QUOTE]
Oh if it's still in the works I'm gonna stop thinking about it. ^^
I like dissecting and guessing it because I thought it's fixed and they only need to announce it.
I wonder if they're gauging reaction now. See how many people are interested.
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4610721]Oh if it's still in the works I'm gonna stop thinking about it. ^^
I like dissecting and guessing it because I thought it's fixed and they only need to announce it.
I wonder if they're gauging reaction now. See how many people are interested.[/QUOTE]
I bet they are XD.
I don't remember where I read it, but I remember reading that DiDio said that it stil wasn't a finished thing. And I can feel how it isn't: it lacks important recent events and characters in there, like the outlaws themselves, or stuff like Grayson or Forever Evil. And I feel like Flash and Green Arrow are lacking content. The Outsiders too, are nowhere to be found. And the whole Wildstorm (several not so recent bits).
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4610773]I bet they are XD.
I don't remember where I read it, but I remember reading that DiDio said that it stil wasn't a finished thing. And I can feel how it isn't: it lacks important recent events and characters in there, like the outlaws themselves, or stuff like Grayson or Forever Evil. And I feel like Flash and Green Arrow are lacking content. The Outsiders too, are nowhere to be found. And the whole Wildstorm (several not so recent bits).[/QUOTE]
Since there are many members of the Bat-family and only one row, I just don't think those are important enough to mention. I'm actually surprised that they mentioned Batman and Red Robin training Gotham vigilantes since that didn't really go anywhere. Court of Owls at least shape how Gotham is defined from that era onward.
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4610857]Since there are many members of the Bat-family and only one row, I just don't think those are important enough to mention. I'm actually surprised that they mentioned Batman and Red Robin training Gotham vigilantes since that didn't really go anywhere. Court of Owls at least shape how Gotham is defined from that era onward.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that part was a bit out of the left field for me. It didn't affect a lot of books, or impacted the characters involved in that storyline much. It's a weird choice, letting that in but not the whole time of Dick in Spiral, for example. Or letting Death of the family in: that one at least affected three? more books.
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4610920]Yeah, that part was a bit out of the left field for me. It didn't affect a lot of books, or impacted the characters involved in that storyline much. It's a weird choice, letting that in but not the whole time of Dick in Spiral, for example. Or letting Death of the family in: that one at least affected three? more books.[/QUOTE]
Now that I think about it, I think that one's inclusion is because it's related to the Oz Effect and Jor-El, which is mentioned right under it. Jor-El is the big one.
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4610966]Now that I think about it, I think that one's inclusion is because it's related to the Oz Effect and Jor-El, which is mentioned right under it. Jor-El is the big one.[/QUOTE]
Mmmm, it could be that.
I was looking through my files, and man is kind of funny how many artists that have worked on RHATO over the years have gone to become pretty high profile artists afterwards: Rocafort, RB Silva, Joe Bennet, Javier Fernandez.
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A pretty good cosplay of Jason and Artemis that I found (was actually looking for fanart).[/QUOTE]
Cool cosplay. I wonder how the axe was made.
I sometimes come across cosplays by chance too when looking for fanarts.
There are some amazing Red Hood cosplays out there.
It always amazes me how much effort and love cosplayers put into their costumes.
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It seems like the Red Hood statue is out, weird, I was expecting it to be released until December.
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The preview for Event Leviathan #5 is out and Jason is officially on the clear.
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4614002]The preview for Event Leviathan #5 is out and Jason is officially on the clear.[/QUOTE]
So that's their main suspect now, and considering its issue 5 of 6 this [I]could[/I] legitimately be Leviathan.
Hmm, I was getting really into those theories surrounding Green Arrow, and him being in cahoots with Leviathan for X reasons, that feels a little less likely now, but we'll see I guess. :)
Also here's the preview [URL="https://www.comicsbeat.com/exclusive-preview-event-leviathan-5/"]link[/URL] for anyone following this title.
[QUOTE=RedBird;4614160]So that's their main suspect now, and considering its issue 5 of 6 this [I]could[/I] legitimately be Leviathan.
Hmm, I was getting really into those theories surrounding Green Arrow, and him being in cahoots with Leviathan for X reasons, that feels a little less likely now, but we'll see I guess. :)
Also here's the preview [URL="https://www.comicsbeat.com/exclusive-preview-event-leviathan-5/"]link[/URL] for anyone following this title.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand why Ra's Al Ghul was a suspect to begin with - and why they cross him off the list now.
And whenever I see some guy with last name Todd (or Gunn for that matter), I wonder if this could be one of Ma Gunn's other sons. I know it's 100% unlikely but it's late and I get crazy ideas when I'm sleepy.
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What if Jason really was Hush instead of Tommy? Would we still have gotten Under the Red Hood or a story like it?
What if Harvey was Hush instead of Tommy?
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This batch of pictures was adorable. I wish I knew corean.
[QUOTE=batnbreakfast;4615666]What if Jason really was Hush instead of Tommy? Would we still have gotten Under the Red Hood or a story like it?
What if Harvey was Hush instead of Tommy?[/QUOTE]
Both could've been more interesting than Tommy, maybe? I mean, well, at least, Harvey would've. I like the story for Under the Hood, but I can see Hush with Harvey and damn, would've been a really interesting spin (and a good story for him).
Look what I have found on instagram ([URL="https://www.instagram.com/p/B3WoROsJH3b/"]source[/URL]):
According to Lobdell, Artemis is getting her hair back and Bizarro's beard stays.
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[QUOTE=Sergard;4615832]Look what I have found on instagram ([URL="https://www.instagram.com/p/B3WoROsJH3b/"]source[/URL]):
According to Lobdell, Artemis is getting her hair back and Bizarro's beard stays.
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Awwwww yeah. I cannot stop smiling. It's perfect.
Ima guess and say she has her hair back by the start of the next arc.
Glad to see that Beardzarro is staying.
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