Jason Todd: Robin, Red Hood, Arkham Knight Appreciation 2019

Jason weight varies a lot between publications, the 225 lbs. come from the DC Encyclopedia. He was also listed at 190 and 180 lbs, and in the Arkham Knight Game he was listed at 200 lbs.

The only Bat characters were they have really been consistent with the stats are batman who is usually 6'2'' and 210 lbs and Dick who is usually 5'10'' and 175 lbs.

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4496869]I have the 2011 guide and looked at the boys' entries there to see how have they changed.


Nightwing
Heroe
1.78 m
79.38 kg
Gotham
Allies: Batman, Robin
Foes: Two Face, Blockbuster.


Red Hood
[B]Villain[/B]
1.83 m
86.18 Kg
Gotham
Allies: Scarlett
Foes: [B]Batman, Nightwing[/B]


Red Robin
Heroe
1.67 m
65.77 kg
Gotham
Allies: Batman, Nightwing, Batgirl
Foes: Captain Boomerang, [B]Red Hood[/B]

Robin
Heroe
1.57 m
54.43 kg
Gotham
Allies: Batman, Teen Titans
Foes: Ra's Al Ghul.

Overall, interesting changes.[/QUOTE]

That's just sad to look at. Poor Jason.
And seems like Tim and Damian lost some weight since 2011.



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This is cool. I really loved all the Inkydandy contributions.

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I need more of this!!

I was sorting my files when I found this

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And is driving me nuts that I can't find the source of it. Does anyone recognize it?

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4498142]I was sorting my files when I found this

[img]https://i.imgur.com/C43Khqy.jpg[/img]

And is driving me nuts that I can't find the source of it. Does anyone recognize it?[/QUOTE]
I want to say Legends of the Dark Knight #100, but I'm not sure.

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4498142]I was sorting my files when I found this

[img]https://i.imgur.com/C43Khqy.jpg[/img]

And is driving me nuts that I can't find the source of it. Does anyone recognize it?[/QUOTE]

Batman Legends of the Dark Knight #100.

The issue has possibly one of my favorite post DITF/pre UTRH Jason stories.
Just a short recollection of his life and death, but it's got some sweet and bittersweet moments.

Double post hang on.

Here's a good portion of the story. Found on Tumblr.

[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/10838682b830c1cd1b5869904b59be91/tumblr_o7bz6iz7ys1sek4xio1_540.png[/img]

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That last page always gets me

I wonder if this was published here. The art is nice, and I like the voices in the characters and the narration. In fact it reminds me of someone's style. Who wrote that issue?

Edit: nevermind, I already found it. Yeah, it makes sense.

[QUOTE=Zaresh;4498382]I wonder if this was published here. The art is nice, and I like the voices in the characters and the narration. In fact it reminds me of someone's style. Who wrote that issue?

Edit: nevermind, I already found it. Yeah, it makes sense.[/QUOTE]

Sorry for the confusion, I meant that I found the images on tumblr is all.

This particular Jason story from 'Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #100, is only a short backup story, and I believe it's written by James Robinson. The main story in the issue, which is a retelling of Dicks origins is written by Dennis O'Neil.

If you don't mind me asking, whose style did the writing remind you of?

[QUOTE=RedBird;4498477]Sorry for the confusion, I meant that I found the images on tumblr is all.

This particular Jason story from 'Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #100, is only a short backup story, and I believe it's written by James Robinson. The main story in the issue, which is a retelling of Dicks origins is written by Dennis O'Neil.

If you don't mind me asking, whose style did the writing remind you of?[/QUOTE]

Nothing specific, some writer from the 80's but I couldn't place the name either. I was wondering who they could be, given that the issue was more "recent" than that time. Knowing now that it was not the writer, for the main story, now I guess it doesn't make sense anymore. But hey, the guy can really dial that pulpy-but-poetic/dramatic style from the late 70's- early 80's I found in works like Moench or, well, O'Neil.

Thanks for the quick answer!

I always loved that page so is great to finally know where it comes from.

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Oh, so good. I ended up doing nothing, I busied myself writing (I've gotten some inspiration and motivation) this weekend and lacked any time to spare drawing. But I still hold my idea for that art close; so it's a matter of time. It was a pre-Crisis blond Jason falling snd disolving into a post-Crisis Jason who was rising from the ground. I guess, now that I'm in no hurry, I'll use my markers. Eventually. Same as my shinsengumy Dick and my samurai Jason, hmmm... Too much stuff in my "to do" list, argh.

[QUOTE=RedBird;4498237]Here's a good portion of the story. Found on Tumblr.

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This looks like Lee Weeks work, it looks pretty good.

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[QUOTE=Dzetoun;4499728]The trailer for the second season of [I]Titans[/I] has appeared in the middle of the night without fanfare. Curran Walters as Jason figures prominently, and delivers what will probably be the iconic quote.

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Hihi. :D
Curran Walters is doing a great job as Robin Jason Todd.
Bruce sounds ... not like your average American. I wonder how dialogues between him and Jason look like.



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You know, I gotta admit that I haven't gotten around to reading much of Jason's time as Robin, so I can't compare. But just by going with the Red Hood Jason, Curran is pretty much spot on for how I would imagine the young Jason to be. I think he's doing a great job and was one of the highlights of season 1. I'm not so keen on the police brutality though, but considering how violent Dick is they had to make him a bit more extreme I guess.

Come to think about it, apart from Dick, all the "guest heroes" were far more interesting than the main cast in the first season.

[QUOTE=gohei_;4500315]You know, I gotta admit that I haven't gotten around to reading much of Jason's time as Robin, so I can't compare. But just by going with the Red Hood Jason, Curran is pretty much spot on for how I would imagine the young Jason to be. I think he's doing a great job and was one of the highlights of season 1. [B]I'm not so keen on the police brutality though, but considering how violent Dick is they had to make him a bit more extreme I guess.
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Come to think about it, apart from Dick, all the "guest heroes" were far more interesting than the main cast in the first season.[/QUOTE]

Heh, those were almost my own words when I watched his episode last season.

It's not really like Jason was when he was Robin, in my opinion. But at least, he does love fun, is bold, outspoken, and seems energetic (he wasn't overly energetic in the comics, but he definitely was as far as I know. This Jason seems restless). I'm going to guess he's going to be pretty empathetic too, because he needs a reason to be angry, and if they're going to go with Dick being angry because personal issues, they're probably going with Jason being angry because injustice in the world (his own share as well, I guess, even if that has never being a thing in the comics. Well, besides Bruce not punishing the Joker with death. But whatever). Jason wasn't a hothead in the comics, or really wasn't that angry and violent (and this Jason is being painted that way so far). But this is the DCUniverse take, and even Dick is quite dark and grim: so it really doesn't matter.

I liked the character for the show itself, and I'm looking forward to what they will do this new season.

Cryptic answer from Tom Taylor about the status of Jason in DCeased.

[url]https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/status/1158209183025524736[/url]

[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4501953]Cryptic answer from Tom Taylor about the status of Jason in DCeased.

[url]https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/status/1158209183025524736[/url][/QUOTE]

Please live and make undead jokes. Please.

[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4501963]Please live and make undead jokes. Please.[/QUOTE]

Lazarus pit is a cure? Jason and the Al Ghuls immune? Notably, Desaad - also among the serially resurrected - is the only person we’ve seen so far who is immune. Also it would explain why Harley and ivy are still tooling around Gotham after Harley killed the joker when pretty much everything else has died or left. They’re going to stumble across something.

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[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4501953]Cryptic answer from Tom Taylor about the status of Jason in DCeased.

[url]https://twitter.com/TomTaylorMade/status/1158209183025524736[/url][/QUOTE]When I see how little he did with Jason in Injustice 2, I doubt that we will see much of him in DCeased.

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So the only Red Hood thing I've had any experience with is the movie, but I keep hearing good things about Red Hood and the Outlaws - do I need to read anything else to get into that, or can I just jump into that from Batman: Under the Red Hood and be alright? Is there like a recommended Jason Todd/Red Hood reading list?

[QUOTE=Vakanai;4504035]So the only Red Hood thing I've had any experience with is the movie, but I keep hearing good things about Red Hood and the Outlaws - do I need to read anything else to get into that, or can I just jump into that from Batman: Under the Red Hood and be alright? Is there like a recommended Jason Todd/Red Hood reading list?[/QUOTE]

My personal recommendation

[B]Quick two-step introduction to Jason Todd/Red Hood[/B]

Step 1: Watch Batman: Under the Red Hood
Step 2: Read the current Rebirth run of Red Hood and the Outlaws (renamed Red Hood: Outlaw, starting with issue 27), the trades are

Red Hood and the Outlaws Vol 1 - Dark Trinity
Red Hood and the Outlaws Vol 2 - Who is Artemis?
Red Hood and the Outlaws Vol 3 - Bizarro Reborn
Red Hood and the Outlaws Vol 4 - Good Night Gotham
Red Hood: Outlaw Vol 1 - Requiem for an Archer

Everything else is more "reading on the go" based on what you are most curious about.

[QUOTE=Vakanai;4504035]So the only Red Hood thing I've had any experience with is the movie, but I keep hearing good things about Red Hood and the Outlaws - do I need to read anything else to get into that, or can I just jump into that from Batman: Under the Red Hood and be alright? Is there like a recommended Jason Todd/Red Hood reading list?[/QUOTE]

You can absolutely go from the UtRH film into the current run. You will miss a bunch of references to the original series but nothing too serious. That said, personally, I think it would be better for you to read since the start of the N52, Lobdell has been crafting an overarching story with Jason's character since 2011 so you would miss a bunch of important stories.

My personal reading list is:

>The animated film
>RHATO Vol 1 trades:
1 REDemption
2 The Starfire
3 Death of the Family
6 Lost and Found Red Hood and the Outlaws #32-34, Annual #2
7 Last Call Red Hood and the Outlaws #35-40, Future's End #1

>Red Hood/Arsenal
1 Open For Business
2 Dancing with the Devil's Daughter.

>RHATO Vol 2
Red Hood and the Outlaws Vol 1 - Dark Trinity
Red Hood and the Outlaws Vol 2 - Who is Artemis?
Red Hood and the Outlaws Vol 3 - Bizarro Reborn
Red Hood and the Outlaws Vol 4 - Good Night Gotham
Red Hood: Outlaw Vol 1 - Requiem for an Archer

I second the direct jump into the current Rebirth run if you're really curious about it. You may miss a few references, but you can go back reading the first N52 trades any time. There are a few other stories referenced by fans and the writers here and there too, but they don't play a big role in the RHATO books, really.

Thank you very much for the info, glad there's not a whole lot to deal with.

WHat about RH Lost Days?

[QUOTE=AJpyro;4504556]WHat about RH Lost Days?[/QUOTE]

It's a book that's a bit divisive: some people like it (like I do), some people dislike it. It's a complement to the Under the Hood story from the comics, but it's not in continuity anymore and it's definitely not needed for understanding Red Hood and the Outlaws or any other book from the New 52 as far as I'm aware or can recall.