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[QUOTE=Zaresh;4170497]As far as I have seen, some fans of Damian are a bit too extreme. And then Tumblr tends to be very radical in their opinions. I haven't read the issue yet, but for what you people say, it's not like he's beaten Damian just because: looks a lot more like he got too provoked by him when he was in a bad place, was even threatened and attacked, and the kid got a comeback in physical shape and a warning. I would say that Jason may have reacted in a disproportionate way, but I haven't read the issue, so I don't know how it really was.
As I said, you just don't bully a dragon, especially not when he's hurt.[/QUOTE]
I thougth that the death threat at the end was a bit much, but he was hurt so i can understand it, probably doesn't justify it but when you are angry and sad you say stuff that you regret later.
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Is also worth noting that it was the box what got Jason pissed.
Surprised that they let Glass write Jason kicking Damian's ass though, normally Jason is editorial go-to guy to get beaten on crossovers and guest appearances.
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And I finally read it.
Maybe Jason was a bit too hard in Damian, when he was still struck by the first blow, and probably thinking about Jason's whole reaction. But then, Damian would have taken advantage at his first chance to come back, as he did, with the bomb threat, so I can see why Jason would hit hard: to deliver the message that he had the upper hand (which was also the point of his whole speech).
The threat at the end was definitely him being mad, and hurt, and yeah, was a bit to much, but also shows Damian that he won't be caught under friendly terms like this time again. So again, it has a purpose behind it.
I think Jason was in character. I cannot say the same for Damian: I get that he too is in a very bad place, but damn, he was so bratty and unwise. I don't think he has been like this in a long while.
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I actually really liked the Annual. It's clearly setting things up long term. I feel really bad for Crush, because I feel that she's being played by Joystick and will stick with Djinn and Roundhouse during the th Deathstroke will come from her being mightily jealous at Damian (when I still think he's crushing on Emiko but now refuses to act on it).
I was sad to see my two favorites Robins fighting like that, but I loved how level-headed Jason was, from beginning to end. It shows that he's really far more experienced than Damian, in real life that is, if not in pure combat skills. I felt it made Red Hood a really strong brand, to see him both dish out such pain but also display genuine sorrow for Damian's actions.
I think he realizes perfectly that Damian is coming out of a very bad time, with him losing his trust in his father (which had been a staple of his character before, as seen in Metal) and that Dick is no more (for the time being), which leads to Damian losing it. I think both of them will have very interesting developments in the future, if Lobdell make uses of this fight.
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[QUOTE=Korath;4170586]I actually really liked the Annual. It's clearly setting things up long term. I feel really bad for Crush, because I feel that she's being played by Joystick and will stick with Djinn and Roundhouse during the th Deathstroke will come from her being mightily jealous at Damian (when I still think he's crushing on Emiko but now refuses to act on it).
I was sad to see my two favorites Robins fighting like that, but I loved how level-headed Jason was, from beginning to end. It shows that he's really far more experienced than Damian, in real life that is, if not in pure combat skills. I felt it made Red Hood a really strong brand, to see him both dish out such pain but also display genuine sorrow for Damian's actions.
I think he realizes perfectly that Damian is coming out of a very bad time, with him losing his trust in his father (which had been a staple of his character before, as seen in Metal) and that Dick is no more (for the time being), which leads to Damian losing it. I think both of them will have very interesting developments in the future, if Lobdell make uses of this fight.[/QUOTE]
Damian has lost both his "dads"; I thought it was nice that Jason had compassion for him.
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That annual was brutal but i liked it.
Though anyone got a clue about the box? DId I miss an outside issue?
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[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4170552]Surprised that they let Glass write Jason kicking Damian's ass though, normally Jason is editorial go-to guy to get beaten on crossovers and guest appearances.[/QUOTE]That only happens when he appears in other Batbooks (and sometimes in his own book), but not really in appearances in other books.
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[QUOTE=AJpyro;4170656]That annual was brutal but i liked it.
Though anyone got a clue about the box? Did I miss an outside issue?[/QUOTE]
The box appeared for the first time in TT #26 when Damian stole it from Alfred. Nothing is mentioned about its content there. Only that "Red Hood will no longer be a problem." with the help of the box.
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[QUOTE=Sergard;4170678]The box appeared for the first time in TT #26 when Damian stole it from Alfred. Nothing is mentioned about its content there. Only that "Red Hood will no longer be a problem." with the help of the box.[/QUOTE]
Interesting.
[SPOIL]A memento from Jason's Mom?[/SPOIL]
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[QUOTE=AJpyro;4170699]Interesting.
[SPOIL]A memento from Jason's Mom?[/SPOIL][/QUOTE]
I considered that but I couldn't come up with a reason why Alfred would have it, why it would be stashed away in a bat-box and why Damian thought it would be enough to put Jason down.
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[QUOTE=AJpyro;4170699]Interesting.
[SPOIL]A memento from Jason's Mom?[/SPOIL][/QUOTE]
[SPOIL]My guess at least would be that in the box is something very personal to Jason that can hurt him emotionally, not physically like Damian probably thinks. Maybe the content is connected to Jason thinking that he hasn't a soul.[/SPOIL]
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[QUOTE=Arsenal;4170766]I considered that but I couldn't come up with a reason why Alfred would have it, why it would be stashed away in a bat-box and why Damian thought it would be enough to put Jason down.[/QUOTE]
For Alfred, I just figured Jason would trust the Old Man to keep it secret and safe. For who would suspect or ask the Butler.
The Damien part...yeah stumped there. Maybe the lingering questions surrounding them is a trigger/BSoD for Jason. Maybe there's a retconned element there that he could never square when he returned to life.
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[QUOTE=AJpyro;4170656]That annual was brutal but i liked it.
Though anyone got a clue about the box? DId I miss an outside issue?[/QUOTE]
Jason's wife's head?
Sorry. I'll show myself out.
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[QUOTE=Arctic Cyclist;4170792]Jason's wife's head?
Sorry. I'll show myself out.[/QUOTE]
[I]Pirates of the Caribbean[/I] joke?
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[QUOTE=Arctic Cyclist;4170792]Jason's wife's head?
Sorry. I'll show myself out.[/QUOTE]
Artemis is still alive! She's just stuck in another reality of some sort...
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