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[QUOTE=G-Potion;4168058]Huh, this is a total different design. The old cover looks good, but I guess the new one is more exciting because you get to see Red Hood and Wingman teaming up. Also I dig the text.[/QUOTE]
It's honestly fun.
I mean, for me. I guess they will not kill them in the interiors? Ha ha, funny.
I wonder how long DC will continue to put the crossed out bat symbol on the cover (but to have the bat symbol intact in the title).
The new cover reminds me a little bit of the RHatO #23 cover.
[IMG]https://s3.amazonaws.com/comicgeeks/comics/covers/large-5939432.jpg[/IMG]
For the people who miss one bizarro in their lifes:
[url]https://www.newsarama.com/43660-saladin-ahmed-dips-toes-in-dcu-with-bizarro.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Sergard;4167793][URL="https://jjmk-jjmk.tumblr.com/post/182399833862/nightwing-redhood-fan-art"]New fanart[/URL] by JJMK. It's a little slash-y but Jason looks too good in his new outfit to not share it.
[IMG]https://66.media.tumblr.com/430e795e0cfcdb8760d4a8791fabd988/tumblr_pm3os9invH1wvpvsso1_1280.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Excellent fanart.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4165928]New on Twitter (#RedHood and/or #JasonTodd)
[URL="https://twitter.com/UluzCutieswards/status/1089923687040446464"]Cute Wards (@UluzCutieswards)[/URL]
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyAvtBTUwAUE8X9.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
I saw this artist before(the designs are the proof).. So, he continues with this kind of fanarts..
[QUOTE=adrikito;4168889]For the people who miss one bizarro in their lifes:
[url]https://www.newsarama.com/43660-saladin-ahmed-dips-toes-in-dcu-with-bizarro.html[/url]
[/QUOTE]
Cool. I remember reading something from him (I cannot remember what, but I remember his name, so there is that) and liking it a lot (I remember liking it too). I'll look for it.
And again, sooo many fanarts, [B]and so good[/B]. I would feel lazy for not working on my own, but, I have so much to do this week (I had an actual paid commission, surprisingly. And tests to do, and classes, and a friend comes to visit from far, and... Yeah, I guess I'm not "fanarting" much this week).
The outlaws:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]77795[/ATTACH]
[QUOTE=adrikito;4168978]The outlaws:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]77795[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
Awwww, I love this one!
[QUOTE=adrikito;4168978]The outlaws:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]77795[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
Ha! I like this! :D
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4168913]I have so much to do this week (I had an actual paid commision, surprisingly. And tests to do, and classes, and a friend comes to visit from far, and... Yeah, I guess I'm not "fanarting" much this week).[/QUOTE]
If you don't mind sharing, what kind of commission you're working on?
[QUOTE=adrikito;4168978]The outlaws:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]77795[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
That's awesome and adorable at the same time!
[QUOTE=G-Potion;4169047]If you don't mind sharing, what kind of commission you're working on?[/QUOTE]
A friend who's a writer asked me to paint him a picture for the promotion of his latest book after seeing [URL="https://www.instagram.com/p/BtEKxIvj1Ff/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link"]this[/URL] (warning: awful quality of the shot). I'll be paid, and he's a very good friend; so I'm very excited, but also very nervious, because I want to do something very good for him. I have to read the book, and show him a few sketchs. He trusts me, but he's also very serious, because it's an actual deal, serious business quite literaly.
[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4169050]That's awesome and adorable at the same time![/QUOTE]
Is from that user that made the genderbender robins..
Now I remember why I considered them familiar. I forgot that he is one robinxsuperboy fan.. :(
[spoil] Jason won the fight against Damian in the TT Annual 2. Jason pleaded with Damian to not fight but Damian tried to lock him in his prison. Jason beat him effortlessly.[/spoil]
[QUOTE=Sergard;4168048]DC has changed the cover of RH:O #31. [URL="https://www.dccomics.com/comics/red-hood-and-the-outlaws-2016/red-hood-outlaw-31"]Here's[/URL] the new one:
[IMG]https://www.previewsworld.com/SiteImage/CatalogImage/STL109400?type=1.jpg[/IMG]
For comparison, here's the old one:
[IMG]https://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/DC-PREVIEWS-8-DECEMBER-final-46_5bf2f14ceb2c95.19932088-1-768x1182.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Interestingly, Roy is listed as one of the protagonists at DC's site
[QUOTE=Darkcrusade25;4169204][spoil] Jason won the fight against Damian in the TT Annual 2. Jason pleaded with Damian to not fight but Damian tried to lock him in his prison. Jason beat him effortlessly.[/spoil][/QUOTE]
[SPOIL]As it should be, just based on experience and physical advantages alone. But nice of DC to remember it this time. And darn Glass had the box trigger Jason without telling us what's in it but apparently Bruce knows. I wonder if Lobdell will pick up on this later. Anyway, I don't like Jason beating up kids but considering that Damian was no less violent and Jason was on the defense the whole time until he's triggered by the box (and he's also bottling up a lot with Roy's death). I can accept this for what it is. [/SPOIL]
[QUOTE=Darkcrusade25;4169204][spoil] Jason won the fight against Damian in the TT Annual 2. Jason pleaded with Damian to not fight but Damian tried to lock him in his prison. Jason beat him effortlessly.[/spoil][/QUOTE]
I just read the annual too.
[SPOIL]The fight starts one-sided with Damian landing some punches and kicks while accusing Jason of betraying the Teen Titans. And when Jason still objects, Damian shows him the mysterious box we've seen in Teen Titans #26. But he DOES NOT open it. We actually never learn what is in it. We only have Jason's statement: "What's in there ... it's my business. It's bigger than this whole crusade. Even Batman wouldn't stoop this low." But I don't know if the last sentence aims at Damian using the box as threat or at the content being something that proves that Jason did something very, very bad.
Jason gets pissed off at Damian and starts fighting back. Again, the fight is one-sided with Damian being the only one who takes damage. Defeated, Damian opens his uniform and shows that there is a bomb threatening that he'll activate it (The bomb display shows the number 1381. Is that some reference?). Jason calls bluff and takes the mystery box. He tells Damian that he and his team shouldn't come looking for Jason otherwise he'll put them in the ground. Jason leaves.
The part ends with a panel of The Other's secret base. There are a lot of monitors showing the faces of all the Teen Titans and Jason.[/SPOIL]
[QUOTE=Sergard;4169260]I just read the annual too.
[SPOIL]The fight starts one-sided with Damian landing some punches and kicks while accusing Jason of betraying the Teen Titans. And when Jason still objects, Damian shows him the mysterious box we've seen in Teen Titans #26. But he DOES NOT open it. We actually never learn what is in it. We only have Jason's statement: "What's in there ... it's my business. It's bigger than this whole crusade. Even Batman wouldn't stoop this low." [B]But I don't know if the last sentence aims at Damian using the box as threat or at the content being something that proves that Jason did something very, very bad.[/B][/SPOIL][/QUOTE]
[SPOIL]I'm curious as well. Did Damian even know about the content of the box or he just assumed that it's something guaranteed to take down Jason? If the latter case why would Bruce even need it because Jason can be taken down by normal means. Why is it more important than the whole crusade? Arggg I'm lost. [/SPOIL]
[QUOTE=G-Potion;4169282][SPOIL]I'm curious as well. Did Damian even know about the content of the box or he just assumed that it's something guaranteed to take down Jason? If the latter case why would Bruce even need it because Jason can be taken down by normal means. Why is it more important than the whole crusade? Arggg I'm lost. [/SPOIL][/QUOTE]
[SPOIL]Bruce didn't have the box. Alfred had it. It's stated in TT #26 when Alfred says "I do not appreciate you going through my things." And since Alfred had it, I wouldn't be surprised if Jason asked him to keep the box somewhere safe. I'm more surprised that Damian knew that the box exists.[/SPOIL]
On another subject: Do you think that
[SPOIL]Leslie's death[/SPOIL]
will be mentioned in RH:O?
[QUOTE=G-Potion;4169250][SPOIL] Anyway, I don't like Jason beating up kids but considering that Damian was no less violent and Jason was on the defense the whole time until he's triggered by the box (and he's also bottling up a lot with Roy's death). I can accept this for what it is. [/SPOIL][/QUOTE]
[spoil]
In all fairness, this situation began with Damian stabbing Jason, accusing him of trying to kill him and the TT, Jason denies the claims, tries to open a dialogue with Damian instead to think more logically, Damian doesn't listen or doesn't want to listen at this point, Jason tries to reason with him to [I]stop[/I] while it's not too late, all the while he tries to avoid Damians attacks. THEN Damian electrocutes Jason and threatens him with not only whatever is clearly so important in that secret box, but also says that he wants Jason to confess on the spot before he too is to be thrown into that 'prison'.
If this was something more one sided like with Bruce in issue #25 rhato, with no reasoning from the attacker, no outward provocation from the victim and a straight up BEAT DOWN till you are unconscious and drag your body....THING. I might be condemning the writing for Jasons behavior here, but this beat down came with a lot of on-the-spot provocation from Damian as well as several opportunities to talk and reason that just weren't taken upon. Besides, even after Jason is satisfied Damian won't attack anymore, the kid still has the gall to open his shirt and threaten him with a bomb this time. I think stubbornness is defiantly a trait these brothers share. XD
If it weren't for the sad context of the end of their partnership, I thought this experience was similar to Nightwing new52 issue #30 where Bruce and Dick brutally thrash each other as part of a bonding experience. :D [SIZE=1]I joke I joke[/SIZE]
All in all, I said it in the beginning, I'm just sad that there wasn't any proper bonding between these two, they really could make a great team if SOMEONE at DC would let them. I'm surprised that Jason didn't come off as horrible as I initially thought he would when these solicits indicated his betrayal, instead, Glass seems to be setting this whole thing up as a learning experience for Damian with that whole 'lost child' monologue, I just hope Glass doesn't swing the pendulum too far into making Damians behavior completely nonsensical for the sake of it. Even negative character development is still [I]development[/I] if the context and circumstances by which the character falls into a more negative mindset all correlate into an understandable narrative pathway, I'm a sucker for good angst and inner conflict and so far in the TT series, outside of [I]maybe[/I] the questionable prison, Damians emotions and behavior seems kinda understandable in these dark DC times.
When it comes to Glass writing Jason, once again I'm surprised by the more sympathetic angle here. I mean it's clear Jason is not even emotionally stable at the moment and is still mourning, but if THIS is supposedly 'Jason Unhinged' from Glass, it's a far cry from the post crisis 'Jason unhinged' nonsense, I tell ya what.
The only really questionable line from Jason to me was at the end, where he states that if the TT/Damian try to come for him, then he threatens to 'put you all in the ground for him.' First of all, that's a bit of a yikes threat, bit much there, though admittedly if this line is connected to Jasons instability at the moment then that leads me to my second point. Who's [B]him[/B]? My mind went to Bruce first, but considering this comic opens with Jason clearly mourning, is 'him' Roy? Is he threatening Damian not to get in his way since Jason is currently fulfilling his and Roy's mission?
[/spoil]
[QUOTE=RedBird;4169396][spoil]All in all, I said it in the beginning, I'm just sad that there wasn't any proper bonding between these two, they really could make a great team if SOMEONE at DC would let them. I'm surprised that Jason didn't come off as horrible as I initially thought he would when these solicits indicated his betrayal, instead, Glass seems to be setting this whole thing up as a learning experience for Damian with that whole 'lost child' monologue, I just hope Glass doesn't swing the pendulum too far into making Damians behavior completely nonsensical for the sake of it. Even negative character development is still [I]development[/I] if the context and circumstances by which the character falls into a more negative mindset all correlate into an understandable narrative pathway, I'm a sucker for good angst and inner conflict and so far in the TT series, outside of [I]maybe[/I] the questionable prison, Damians emotions and behavior seems kinda understandable in these dark DC times.
When it comes to Glass writing Jason, once again I'm surprised by the more sympathetic angle here. I mean it's clear Jason is not even emotionally stable at the moment and is still mourning, but if THIS is supposedly 'Jason Unhinged' from Glass, it's a far cry from the post crisis 'Jason unhinged' nonsense, I tell ya what. [/spoil][/QUOTE]
[spoil]I definitely agree that we should have actually SEEN them working together, not just some lip service about it. They're probably my two favorite Robins, and I also think they have a lot of potential together, so that's a disappointment. It also would have made Damian's belief that Jason betrayed him more effective.
That said, I thought they were both written fairly here, which is not always the case, especially when it comes to Jason in someone else's book.
I do feel sorry for Damian. He is going through a lot right now.
Of course, Jason is, too, but this book is not about him.[/spoil]
[QUOTE=okiedokiewo;4169410][spoil]I definitely agree that we should have actually SEEN them working together, not just some lip service about it. They're probably my two favorite Robins, and I also think they have a lot of potential together, so that's a disappointment. It also would have made Damian's belief that Jason betrayed him more effective.
That said, I thought they were both written fairly here, which is not always the case, especially when it comes to Jason in someone else's book.
I do feel sorry for Damian. He is going through a lot right now.
Of course, Jason is, too, but this book is not about him.[/spoil][/QUOTE]
[spoil]Exactly, both of their emotional outbursts make sense with one affecting the other, and even though this situation [I]technically[/I] places Damian in the wrong when he accuses Jason, thereby justifying Jason's returned anger towards Damian, you can't forget that Damian is also doing this under the impression that he has been betrayed and nearly killed by his brother/mentor.
In reading the last TT issue, you kinda get the impression that Damian somewhat expected the partnership to fail inevitably but had [I]hoped[/I] otherwise? Considering the kids dad and other brother is no where to be found anymore, the sadness from another lost connection seems to put his misplaced anger into perspective. And with Jason, the fact that he initially assumed that Damian tracked him down only with the good intention of informing him about Roy's demise shows that he never expected any ill intent or malice whatsoever from Damian and instead thought that the kid just wanted to help. Just a sad situation overall.
Damn no one ever listens to Alfred do they? Just a quick text would have solved everything XD
[/spoil]
Maybe the confrontation with Damian and the ... souvenir he picked up play a part in Jason’s return to Gotham after RHO: 31
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4169468]Maybe the confrontation with Damian and the ... souvenir he picked up play a part in Jason’s return to Gotham after RHO: 31[/QUOTE]
Maybe, if Lobdell actually makes a mention of the incident or the souvenir, then this annual would help to serve both Damians [I]and[/I] Jasons narrative and some of the reasoning leading up to their choices/paths.
[URL="http://neukgol.tumblr.com/post/182395527586/full-body-study-with-my-fav-boys"]neukgol[/URL]
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/e1008584805e18e634af3b27501489b9/tumblr_pm3bhtF7PB1vnmxrwo1_640.png[/img]
I just realized nobody bothered to tell Jason about Dick getting shot.
Ok, so a case of "bullying the hurt dragon". I think I can live with that: I was expecting worse, to be honest.
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4169566]I just realized nobody bothered to tell Jason about Dick getting shot.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they guessed that he would know about that by the news. Dick is still a public figure, right? Or maybe not, and theh just don't want to make him even more upset. I don't know. At his point, I guess the writers should have known already that Dick story would turn like it did.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4169288][SPOIL]Bruce didn't have the box. Alfred had it. It's stated in TT #26 when Alfred says "I do not appreciate you going through my things." And since Alfred had it, I wouldn't be surprised if Jason asked him to keep the box somewhere safe. I'm more surprised that Damian knew that the box exists.[/SPOIL][/QUOTE]
[SPOIL]Oh yeah now I remember. Somehow reading 'Bruce wouldn't stoop that low' translated into Bruce 'knowing about the box' to me. Heh.[/SPOIL]
[QUOTE=RedBird;4169396][spoil]
All in all, I said it in the beginning, I'm just sad that there wasn't any proper bonding between these two, they really could make a great team if SOMEONE at DC would let them. I'm surprised that Jason didn't come off as horrible as I initially thought he would when these solicits indicated his betrayal, instead, [B]Glass seems to be setting this whole thing up as a learning experience for Damian with that whole 'lost child' monologue[/B], I just hope Glass doesn't swing the pendulum too far into making Damians behavior completely nonsensical for the sake of it. Even negative character development is still [I]development[/I] if the context and circumstances by which the character falls into a more negative mindset all correlate into an understandable narrative pathway, I'm a sucker for good angst and inner conflict and so far in the TT series, outside of [I]maybe[/I] the questionable prison, Damians emotions and behavior seems kinda understandable in these dark DC times.[/SPOIL][/QUOTE]
[SPOIL]With the way DC has put the 'only child' agenda down out throats since Rebirth, this overturn is long overdue, and I welcome it, as long as it's written with moderation of course. Now if someone can make Bruce learn the same lesson... ;p [/SPOIL]
[QUOTE][SPOIL]When it comes to Glass writing Jason, once again I'm surprised by the more sympathetic angle here. I mean it's clear Jason is not even emotionally stable at the moment and is still mourning, but if THIS is supposedly 'Jason Unhinged' from Glass, it's a far cry from the post crisis 'Jason unhinged' nonsense, I tell ya what.
The only really questionable line from Jason to me was at the end, where he states that if the TT/Damian try to come for him, then he threatens to 'put you all in the ground for him.' First of all, that's a bit of a yikes threat, bit much there, though admittedly if this line is connected to Jasons instability at the moment then that leads me to my second point. Who's [B]him[/B]? My mind went to Bruce first, but considering this comic opens with Jason clearly mourning, is 'him' Roy? Is he threatening Damian not to get in his way since Jason is currently fulfilling his and Roy's mission?
[/spoil][/QUOTE]
[SPOIL]Yeah I think this is one of the rare times in his guest appearances that Jason is written as both sensible (well as much as he can be in this state) and capable. I was thinking 'for him' might imply The Other? Since according to Damian, Lady Vic was just a bait, and his target was the Teen Titans.[/SPOIL]
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4169624]Ok, so a case of "bullying the hurt dragon". I think I can live with that: I was expecting worse, to be honest.[/QUOTE]
Heh I didn't know this trope has a name. It's a good name too.
[QUOTE=G-Potion;4169672]Heh I didn't know this trope has a name. It's a good name too.[/QUOTE]
The "hurt" part is mine, but yeah, I think that's how people call this trope :).
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4169069]A friend who's a writer asked me to paint him a picture for the promotion of his latest book after seeing [URL="https://www.instagram.com/p/BtEKxIvj1Ff/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link"]this[/URL] (warning: awful quality of the shot). I'll be paid, and he's a very good friend; so I'm very excited, but also very nervious, because I want to do something very good for him. I have to read the book, and show him a few sketchs. He trusts me, but he's also very serious, because it's an actual deal, serious business quite literaly.[/QUOTE]
Good luck! I think that painting is very beautiful so you'll do just fine on your friend's book. :)
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4169566]I just realized nobody bothered to tell Jason about Dick getting shot.[/QUOTE]
They probably weren't able to contact him. Otherwise Alfred would have sent him a message after TT #26 that Damian has stolen the mystery box and is coming for him.
@Zaresh: I like the "bullying the hurt dragon" phrase :) And I wish you also good luck and a lot of fun with your commission.
I hope that the TT Annual will be mentioned in RH:O. And that Jason gets Artemis, Biz and his grandma back. It's sad to see him so alone without any emotional backup.
[QUOTE=G-Potion;4169735]Good luck! I think that painting is very beautiful so you'll do just fine on your friend's book. :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sergard;4170023]
@Zaresh: I like the "bullying the hurt dragon" phrase :) And I wish you also good luck and a lot of fun with your commission.
[/QUOTE]
Thank you both! :3
Maybe a stupid question but since when is the "Prince of Gotham" in the title gone?
It wasn't this morning, I think I saw it whole then.
Huh. Why...
Okay, I checked a screenshot that I made yesterday of a post - and the url clearly contains the "Prince of Gotham" part. I'll write a mod.
[url]https://twitter.com/kristaferanka[/url]
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyIL7X-UUAAqvvT.jpg[/img]
[url]https://twitter.com/an_atagasu[/url]
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyGeZuMVYAACCvp.png[/img]
[QUOTE=G-Potion;4169668][SPOIL]Yeah I think this is one of the rare times in his guest appearances that Jason is written as both sensible (well as much as he can be in this state) and capable. I was thinking 'for him' might imply The Other? Since according to Damian, Lady Vic was just a bait, and his target was the Teen Titans.[/SPOIL][/QUOTE]
Just read the issue
[spoil]and yeah, he meant The Other. Basically saying that if the TT bother him again, he will do the Other a favor and take them down (killing them?) himself.[/spoil]