How many of the plot threads (Wingman & his group, The darkness Essence was talking about , etc) set up in the current arc are gonna end up being connected to the YOTV stuff?
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How many of the plot threads (Wingman & his group, The darkness Essence was talking about , etc) set up in the current arc are gonna end up being connected to the YOTV stuff?
Well, Bendis can't write Damian for crap. Not that he's the easiest to write, but that didn't sound anything like him. And the inevitable reunion between Jon and Damian is making me dread it even more than before.
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4332606]How many of the plot threads (Wingman & his group, The darkness Essence was talking about , etc) set up in the current arc are gonna end up being connected to the YOTV stuff?[/QUOTE]
I'd say they fit pretty well. Jason heading down the dark path at break neck speed according to the solicits. So far we haven't seen any reasons why Lobdell chose Wingman to be part of Jason's entourage. He didn't need to wear Jason's old alias to make a pitch. That leaves Leviathan as the only explanation for Wingman, and the finale of Batman Inc was Jason/Bruce against Talia so cosmic irony if Damian's suspicion turns true I guess?
Also Woods said last last pages of #36 is gonna change everything. I wonder how that syncs up with Bendis's story.
[QUOTE=Restingvoice;4332308]Chapter Two? Not him then. ^^[/QUOTE]
Or it's him because everyone already crossed him out of their suspected list. ;p
[QUOTE=G-Potion;4332841]I'd say they fit pretty well. Jason heading down the dark path at break neck speed according to the solicits. So far we haven't seen any reasons why Lobdell chose Wingman to be part of Jason's entourage. He didn't need to wear Jason's old alias to make a pitch. That leaves Leviathan as the only explanation for Wingman, and the finale of Batman Inc was Jason/Bruce against Talia so cosmic irony if Damian's suspicion turns true I guess?
Also Woods said last last pages of #36 is gonna change everything. I wonder how that syncs up with Bendis's story.[/QUOTE]
Well, true. They could work the story in RHATO to actually fit and go by the hand with him being the Leviathan guy, without a lot of trouble. Solicits are vague enough for it to work and we don't know yet any of them past July (August seems to be a key month for the event). It's just that, in my case, I feel like it shouldn't be an event that is actually centered around another whole franchise (Superman and to a less degree, Batman) decide the future status and fate of a smaller book series and its character. I'm buying RHATO for its story, I don't plan to buy Leviathan. I like to read my book as a whole story, not supplementary material for another book I'm not interested in. It would be like having to buy another book to get the end of a story, and having to buy a few trades of that new book to really get the ending--and I don't do that. I prefer to straight drop the book. Not to mention that the people who would read Leviathan wouldn't go to RHATO to read why Jason would be a bad guy here, whatever the reason he has behind, or however he gives a solution to his conflict and may get back to be an antihero; and that means that people would get only that he's a bad guy again, as a sort of new status quo.
That is, in the hypothetical case of Jason being Leviathan, and Leviathan being evil.
Which could not be the case \o/.
Well, [URL="https://www.readdc.com/DCs-Year-of-the-Villain-Special-2019-1/digital-comic/T1977500015001?ref=YnJvd3NlL25ldy1jb21pY3MvZGVza3RvcC9ncmlkTGlzdC9SZWNlbnRMaXN0MA"]DC's Year of the Villain Special (2019-) #1[/URL] is out and it's free.
There's only one other panel that shows Jason though - and it's his face on a holographic monitor.
I'd be much more relaxed about that whole event if Artemis and Bizarro were back.
Jason in DC year of the vilain:
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Our bizarro or a new version created for Luthor? He appears in one page called [B]BAD BY DESIGN[/B] that talks about luthor and villains..
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A lot of people guessed that the red masked guy in Bendis' Leviathan event was Jason but that felt way too obvious because of the design, but it seems he is or Bendis will be playing around with the idea at least.
[QUOTE=adrikito;4333104]Our bizarro or a new version created for Luthor? He appears in one page called [B]BAD BY DESIGN[/B] that talks about luthor and villains..
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Hard to guess. But why would any Bizarro wear an armor like that? Bizarro has Superman's powers so that stuff doesn't give him more protection.
Some of the other designs are interesting. There's a Deathstroke Rose Wilson. But Jericho is the one that gets an offer from Lex - and Jericho is shown amongs the heroes Batman wants to recruit.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4333166] There's a Deathstroke Rose Wilson. But Jericho is the one that gets an offer from Lex - and Jericho is shown amongs the heroes Batman wants to recruit.[/QUOTE]
I am surprised and confused for this with Jericho and even more with Rose... Slade appeared in the image that Luthor was observing many characters while he was talking with Brainiac.
However, maybe all this starts before Slade "death"..
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4332412]The Robin in the preview honestly “sounds” a lot more like Tim than he does Damian.[/QUOTE]
I know right? Sounds way more like Tim.
I've been relatively enjoying YJ but this page makes me think that Bendis doesn't necessarily have a unique voice for Tim more so than he thinks that this is just the way ROBIN[SIZE=1]TM[/SIZE] talks.
Also that page is almost beautifully stupid in that 'cliffhanger lead up sentence', the more I come across it and read it, the goofier it gets.
The Red Hood.......Your Old Partner.......Jason Todd.
Like Thank God Bendis clarified that. Poor Bruce is a bit of a dunce. I'm sure when Damian said Red Hood, Bruce was thinking of someone else......Like maybe Joker....so its a good thing Damian clarified and said 'your old partner'........But you know just in case Bruce was still thinking it may be another ex partner/robin of his, who is calling themselves the Red Hood, Damian kindly went on further and clarified that he was referring to Jason Todd. Whew, glad we cleared that up. XD
[QUOTE=RedBird;4333233]I know right? Sounds way more like Tim.
I've been relatively enjoying YJ but this page makes me think that Bendis doesn't necessarily have a unique voice for Tim more so than he thinks that this is just the way ROBIN[SIZE=1]TM[/SIZE] talks.
Also that page is almost beautifully stupid in that 'cliffhanger lead up sentence', the more I come across it and read it, the goofier it gets.
The Red Hood.......Your Old Partner.......Jason Todd.
Like Thank God Bendis clarified that. Poor Bruce is a bit of a dunce. I'm sure when Damian said Red Hood, Bruce was thinking of someone else......Like maybe Joker....so its a good thing Damian clarified and said 'your old partner'........But you know just in case Bruce was still thinking it may be another ex partner/robin of his, who is calling themselves the Red Hood, Damian kindly went on further and clarified that he was referring to Jason Todd. Whew, glad we cleared that up. XD[/QUOTE]
At this point I would have preferred Tim over Damian. It would have fitted his character better to have a bad feeling about something and to be torn between his intuition as detective and his family bonds.
I also imagine Tim to be more inclined to ask for help than doing everything on his own.
I'm surprised that the heroes spread in DC's Year of the Villain Special (2019-) #1 does not include Young Justice, but the Titans and (half of the) Teen Titans are there.
The Red Hood of Gotham ... did I miss something? Has there ever been a Red Hood of somewhere else? But I know, that's a little nitpicky. YotV is a big event. There'll be a lot of readers who aren't that familiar with the bat family. So all that goofy information is probably very helpful to others.
]B]The Red Hood of Gotham... did I miss something? Has there ever been a Red Hood of somewhere else?[/B] But I know, that's a little nitpicky. YotV is a big event. There'll be a lot of readers who aren't that familiar with the bat family. So all that goofy information is probably very helpful to others.[/QUOTE]
Well Jason is the main red hood known all over the world, but there are other's who still use the red hood alias committing petty crime or trying to use the identity to follow in his foot step
[QUOTE=Sergard;4333261]There'll be a lot of readers who aren't that familiar with the bat family. So all that goofy information is probably very helpful to others.[/QUOTE]
Of course, but that's like my point.
Nothing wrong with exposition in and of itself, but, it can be done smoothly where the dialogue feels natural and the lead up feels logical, and it can also be done, like THAT XD.
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[QUOTE=redmax99;4333287]Well Jason is the main red hood known all over the world, but there are other's who still use the red hood alias committing petty crime or trying to use the identity to follow in his foot step[/QUOTE]
Do you have an example for that? The last and only time I've seen more than one Red Hood was in a flashback during the old RHatO run which showed the Red Hood gang, and even there I'm not sure if the members were called Red Hoods or not.
[QUOTE=RedBird;4333314]Of course, but that's like my point.
Nothing wrong with exposition in and of itself, but, it can be done smoothly where the dialogue feels natural and the lead up feels logical, and it can also be done, like THAT XD.[/QUOTE]
That's true. I wonder if Jason was really the first choice. Everything about that last panel looks so squeezed - Jason and the information. And Talia also being in the panel.
Maybe the panel changed from only Talia to Talia and Jason with Jason being the main focus. I can't really follow why Damian believes that Leviathan could be Jason. The natural choice would be Talia. She has been Leviathan in the past (and she's leading Leviathan right now in Silencer) and she's Damian's mother. So him wanting to prove his mother's innocence would be understandable.
I think Damian's voice is, as far as I know, the voice he uses for teenagers overall. He uses that too, for some other characters, sometimes characters speaking in the same scene. This is why I said that I dislike the voices he writes: they tend to sound all the same; and that's confusing and breaks my immersion, because, as much as people say that the way he writes dialogue is more natural, I don't feel it (it's not the only writer that writes dialogue in a way that I feel artificial, but I like the others better. Take Aaron Sorkin, for example: no one speaks 24/7 like the characters in The West Wing, but I like how they're written nevertheless). Just my opinion: other people love it. It's a bit divisive, I guess.
There is too, I think, the issue about written language and speech being both ruled by different codes and conventions: their register is different. When you read a dialogue, you expect characters to speak in a certain way; same as when you watch fiction in movies and TVs. And the way they do and how you expect them to is unlike how you usually speak in your daily life. This is something I think many professional writers do instinctively, but it's not an easy thing to do, to be honest. Most of my friends who write have to watch out for this issue when they write dialogue (and they've pointed to me how I often have a problem of exposition when I write); but then, other people just write dialogue right and almost clean on the fly.
But in any case, yep, it's nitpicking. And Bendis is writing what, 4 books each month? (Action, Supes, YJ and that Batman for Walmart). That has to pay and show in his style somehow, because writing takes time (shrugging.gif). And yep, he has to also make clear to readers outside the batbooks, and casual readers, who Jason is; that's a good point too.
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[/QUOTE]That reminds me that I really don't like the Red UtRH/OYL Robin Costume. That kind of looks like lung Red Underware, and wearing that as a costume should be left to Supergoof.
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Btw. I kind of hope that the Leviathan Guy is the Grant Morrison Incarnation of Jason from the dark Multiverse, and gets in the end his Ass kicked by the current incarnation.
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Found this on Reddit: DCeased #2 - Midtown Comics Exclusive by InHyuk Lee
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[QUOTE=Aahz;4333977]Btw. I kind of hope that the Leviathan Guy is the Grant Morrison Incarnation of Jason from the dark Multiverse, and gets in the end his Ass kicked by the current incarnation.[/QUOTE]
I'd be very disappointed in Barbara if she can't distinguish real Jason from fake Morrison Jason.
Zombie Jason? A bit on the nose, don't you think?
[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4334209]Zombie Jason? A bit on the nose, don't you think?[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be surprised if DCeased will be similar to Injustice - a lot of deaths but the big "alpha" characters like Batman, Wonder Woman, Hal Jordan, etc. will mysteriously always survive while Robins, the other Green Lanterns and Co. are dying left and right.
So is DCeased an Elseworlds story or is it in the main continuity?
Also, I can't help but shiver to the thought of Bendis writing Jason. God, I hope he doesn't destroy the character.
[QUOTE=kaimaciel;4334235]So is DCeased an Elseworlds story or is it in the main continuity?[/QUOTE]Elseworld.
Interesting analysis about RHATO as whole
[url]https://www.reddit.com/r/DCcomics/comments/bdeo9e/finally_finished_all_7_volumes_of_n52_red_hood/[/url]
[QUOTE=Aahz;4333966]That reminds me that I really don't like the Red UtRH/OYL Robin Costume. That kind of looks like lung Red Underware, and wearing that as a costume should be left to Supergoof.
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It's my favourite Robin Costume, even if it has black pants.
[QUOTE=Aahz;4333977]Btw. I kind of hope that the Leviathan Guy is the Grant Morrison Incarnation of Jason from the dark Multiverse, and gets in the end his Ass kicked by the current incarnation.[/QUOTE]
That could be hilarious. I think everyone would enjoy this a lot.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4334181]Found this on Reddit: DCeased #2 - Midtown Comics Exclusive by InHyuk Lee
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Cool cover. DCeased is getting some pretty covers, damn.
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Cool cover. DCeased is getting some pretty covers, damn.[/QUOTE]
I'm just noticing now that the "flames" from Jason's eyes form an Omega symbol. Nice detail.
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[QUOTE=Sergard;4334365]I'm just noticing now that the "flames" from Jason's eyes form an Omega symbol. Nice detail.[/QUOTE]
I envy your eyesight. I cannot see it XD.
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4334386]I envy your eyesight. I cannot see it XD.[/QUOTE]
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Does this help? :D
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Hah! XD
Yes, yes, it helps indeed. Thank you :3.
These exclusive covers are expensive. There are three different covers of the DCeased #2 variant above. And they basically all look the same with tiny differences.
Midtown Exclusive Cover A Inhyuk Lee Connecting Variant Cover - 10 $
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Midtown Exclusive Cover B Inhyuk Lee Connecting Omega Variant Cover - 15 $
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Midtown Exclusive Cover C Inhyuk Lee Connecting Virgin Cover - 20 $
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[QUOTE=Sergard;4334224]I wouldn't be surprised if DCeased will be similar to Injustice - a lot of deaths but the big "alpha" characters like Batman, Wonder Woman, Hal Jordan, etc. will mysteriously always survive while Robins, the other Green Lanterns and Co. are dying left and right.[/QUOTE]
Some spoilers for the first issue, don’t look if you don’t wanna know.
[Spoil]Actually they pretty much killed off Batman, Tim, and Dick at the end of the first issue. Damian survived because he was hanging with Jon at his house when it all went down and Superman prevented them from turning. Jason was not in the issue so no idea if he’s ok.[/spoil]
Connecting, eh?
Man, I hope DC wakes up and releases these as a poster like Marvel does.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4334181]Found this on Reddit: DCeased #2 - Midtown Comics Exclusive by InHyuk Lee
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"Yes. Yes, I did it. I hate him... so... much... flames. Flames. ..On the side of my head... heaving... breathing... heaving breath..."
[QUOTE=Sergard;4333440]Do you have an example for that? The last and only time I've seen more than one Red Hood was in a flashback during the old RHatO run which showed the Red Hood gang, and even there I'm not sure if the members were called Red Hoods or not.
they were all call red hood 1 etc.but i know in nightwing 43 or 44 when dick was rescuing damian he fought some redhooded mask guys and he implied that they were copying jason. then i went back even further than realize i was thinking of utrh movie
[QUOTE=sifighter;4334471]Some spoilers for the first issue, don’t look if you don’t wanna know.
[Spoil]Actually they pretty much killed off Batman, Tim, and Dick at the end of the first issue. Damian survived because he was hanging with Jon at his house when it all went down and Superman prevented them from turning. Jason was not in the issue so no idea if he’s ok.[/spoil][/QUOTE]
Spoiler me all you want. DCeased is a title for which I want to be spoilered. There is no appeal to me to read a series if all my favs are dead from the start.
But I have to admit:
[SPOIL]Dick AND Tim being zombified was a surprise. Tom Taylor already killed them in Injustice so I thought they'd be save in DCeased. At least one of them. But maybe someone finds a cure and Dick and Tim will turn back to normal later?[/SPOIL]