[QUOTE=Korath;4357059]But what the hell are those things ?[/QUOTE]
The sidekicks mentioned in 36 solicit.
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[QUOTE=Korath;4357059]But what the hell are those things ?[/QUOTE]
The sidekicks mentioned in 36 solicit.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4357011]Can Tom King please stop using Jason?[/QUOTE]
I dunno, I feel like King got the whole Bat family dismissing Jason’s legitimate gripes with Bruce because of the latest crisis of the week dynamic pretty well.
I took a glance to this week's issue of Batman after seeing that panel, and remembered why I stopped reading it again. It was so void, of everything.
I don't know. I remember reading The Vision or The Omega Men, or the three issues I've got to read of Mister Miracle, and those books worked fine in issues (not as stand alone, but every issue gave me something). I didn't feel the same with this issue in Batman. That whole issue could be contained in 8 pages, and you could even take a lot of space for pretty art and some quipping and whatever. I guess writing a regular series that's released every two weeks has to be harder than writing for a monthly limited series. I know, reading an issue alone, in the middle of a story arc is an idiotic choice and clearly I'm missing a lot of what I should feel; but still, eh... :confused:
Jason, well, at least he's harmless here. Just a panel, and it doesn't go against what we are having in RHATO. His voice? It's the usual for King when he writes Jason: it sounds off, sort of shallow and meant to sound fun. But I can say the same for Barbara's voice or most of the other short lines that most of the characters throw. But with how decompressed the issue was, and how little dialogue you can read there, it's to be expected, I guess. It's just a panel, a very quick reminder to Batman's readers of where Jason is and how he's standing in relation to Bruce now. No reason to go nitpicking.
I don't mean to sound too critical, or to trash King's work (no way I would to that: he can be a great writer) or anyone who is enjoying this work's taste. I liked some of his books too.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4357030]So that's what Rocafort has been working on.
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I have no idea what is going on but this looks cool regardless. If those are the sidekicks, man do I love their designs and the potential for horror elements they can bring to the book.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4357030]So that's what Rocafort has been working on.
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Looks like the most wild remake of '3 men and a baby' I've ever seen :D
Are these original characters or have they appeared in DC before? I can't really recognize any of them but the one with the big chompy lower jaw seems familiar, I feel like I've seen that design before.
[QUOTE=Darkcrusade25;4357065]Jason made the right decision tbh[/QUOTE]
I don't mind his decision. I'm okay with the part that Jason didn't want to join the others. I take offence that King made Jason talk to Barbara in this way.
Jason telling crowbar jokes or similar stuff to Dick or Tim would have been fine. But to Barbara, who was also tortured by the Joker and who has been treated with more respect by Jason in the past than some other batfam members - this rudeness doesn't sit right with me.
Tom King doesn't understand Jason's character and the dynamics he has with others. So I'll be glad if we see as little as possible of Jason in King's stories.
[QUOTE=RedBird;4359047]Looks like the most wild remake of '3 men and a baby' I've ever seen :D
Are these original characters or have they appeared in DC before? I can't really recognize any of them but the one with the big chompy lower jaw seems familiar, I feel like I've seen that design before.[/QUOTE]
At first glance, because I didn't immediately notice the huge jaw, I thought that's Sideways.
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Any chance that the baby the blue one is holding is Liam Harper?
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4359696]Any chance that the baby the blue one is holding is Liam Harper?[/QUOTE]
While that would be awesome, that would also raise SO many more questions.
The three characters (not the baby) look like some kind of zombie thing, to be honest. They're weird.
The one who is holding the kid looks like a zombie cyborg ninja. The one who is biting the logo looks like some kind of alien. And the one in white has some kind of symbol in their mask and seems to be casting some spell with their hands.
And the fourth character in the front isn't weird?
[QUOTE=RedBird;4359047]Looks like the most wild remake of '3 men and a baby' I've ever seen :D
Are these original characters or have they appeared in DC before? I can't really recognize any of them but the one with the big chompy lower jaw seems familiar, I feel like I've seen that design before.[/QUOTE]
Not the jaw... but the overall aesthetic reminds me of that cyborg woman Manchester Black has as a bodyguard when facing Tim's Teen Titans. Also drawn by Rocafort.
Oh and that jaw one reminds me of Duela Dent for some reason.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4359927]And the fourth character in the front isn't weird?[/QUOTE]
I thought it was some kind of gargoyle XD. Literal gargoyle, like some decoration element. I didn't realize it was an actual character until now.
Welp, I'm blind.
That cover is so chaotic I didn't even notice the masked one with white hood and cape.
Oh, and the character in front reminds me of the alien design from Species. Just a little bit more stone-like.
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4359696]Any chance that the baby the blue one is holding is Liam Harper?[/QUOTE]
Gonna go out of a limb and say, less than zero.
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4360679]Gonna go out of a limb and say, less than zero.[/QUOTE]
I was giving it about a .0000001% personally but figured I’d throw it out there anyway.
Without the watermark
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[QUOTE]If you haven’t checked in with Jason Todd in a while, you’re missing out on some great fun. The former Boy Wonder has taken over the Iceberg Lounge and is forcing the Penguin to watch him take down his criminal empire piece by piece. And where is old Oswald? He’s locked in his own panic room and has no choice but to witness Jason Todd’s devious machinations!
By the way, longtime Todd fans will love Red Hood Outlaw #34. Remember Isabel Adrila, Jason’s flight attendant girlfriend from the New 52 Red Hood and the Outlaws series? Well, she’s back and it looks like she and Jason are picking things back up from where they left off. These types of relationships never last, but I think Jason deserves some happiness.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2019/05/16/gotham-gazette-a-new-team-rises[/url]
August solicits are out
[QUOTE]RED HOOD: OUTLAW #37
written by SCOTT LOBDELL
art and cover by KENNETH ROCAFORT
variant cover by PHILIP TAN
Leave it to Red Hood to get Lex Luthor’s strangest offer of all: to train the next generation of super-villains! Hand-picked for their incredible talents, not to mention their potential to spread villainy and doom across the globe. As the only super-villain in the world to have trained under Batman himself, Red Hood is the ideal instructor. But has Jason Todd fallen so far that he’d take on the task of forging tomorrow’s Legion of Doom or Crime Syndicate—or is he trying to work from within to undermine Lex’s villainous machinations? Even if Red Hood’s heart is in the right place, he still has to butt heads with his powerful and dangerous new pupils. Grab some ammo and settle in for the beginning of the next generation of Outlaws!
ON SALE 08.28.19
$3.99 US | 32 PAGES
FC | RATED T+
This issue will ship with two covers.
Please see the order form for details.
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And we're still being dragged into Leviathan
[QUOTE]EVENT LEVIATHAN #3
written by BRIAN MICHAEL BENDIS
art and cover by ALEX MALEEV
variant cover by JAY ANACLETO
From the award-winning team of writer Brian Michael Bendis and artist Alex Maleev, it’s DC’s biggest whodunit in years! The world’s greatest detectives—Batman, Green Arrow, Lois Lane, Plastic Man, the Question and Martian Manhunter—have gathered to solve the mystery behind the true identity of Leviathan’s leaders and the destruction of the world’s top intelligence agencies! Red Hood is their leading suspect—and he is on the loose! Plus, the Silencer takes her shot! This mystery will unleash a new evil on the DC Universe!
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$3.99 US | 3 OF 6 | 32 PAGES
FC | RATED T+
This issue will ship with two covers.
Please see the order form for details.
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Doesn't sound like the Trinity's gonna be reunited just yet.
I'm scared for Jason, not gonna lie.
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4361820]Doesn't sound like the Trinity's gonna be reunited just yet.[/QUOTE]
There's a new Bizarro in Terrifics, so that would make more difficult the return of Artemis and our Bizarro.
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4361911]There's a new Bizarro in Terrifics, so that would make more difficult the return of Artemis and our Bizarro.[/QUOTE]
That Biz can just fly right off to Bizarro-verse. I want Artemis and Biz back!
Don't forget "BLACK MASK: YEAR OF THE VILLAIN #1"
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[QUOTE]written by TOM TAYLOR
art by CULLY HAMNER
cover by MITCH GERADS
Black Mask was one of Gotham City’s most ruthless crime lords. He had money, power and respect. But after months in the Teen Titans’ secret prison, Roman Sionis is finally free. Given a new purpose and new abilities thanks to Lex Luthor’s offer, he’s found a new racket. Corporate crime not only pays better, but it’s far less dangerous. At least until Batwoman discovers what he’s up to and plans to put an end to Black Mask’s latest power grab. Is Black Mask the same crime boss he’s always been, or has time and a new approach made him something far more unstoppable than he’s ever been?[/QUOTE]
I mention it because the solicitation completely ignores Black Mask's encounter with Red Hood in the first Rebirth arc - like Teen Titans did.
The plot hole gets bigger and bigger.
On the bright side, we'll have more Hood stuff than usual to read over these next few months so that's always nice. If we're lucky, it might even be good too.
[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4361911]There's a new Bizarro in Terrifics, so that would make more difficult the return of Artemis and our Bizarro.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4361924]That Biz can just fly right off to Bizarro-verse. I want Artemis and Biz back![/QUOTE]
Meh, that Biz imposter doesn't even have a dope ass beard like ours does smh
Since it seems like the Annual doesn't end with the team reuniting, I'm curious to see how it ends. Unless that is how it ends and the main book is still working towards that point.
I don't like where this is going. If solicits keep pointing to Jason in a villainous role, involved in this Leviathan plot, I'll probably stop buying the trades and will not buy the one that will cover this arc. I for sure am not going to buy anything Leviathan: I have zero interest in it.
I'll wait for September's solicits. That month's will decide if I keep buying this book or not.
I don't buy comics for getting myself mad, and I have to carefully think where to put the contents of my wallet. A matter of being pragmatic.
[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4359764]While that would be awesome, that would also raise SO many more questions.[/QUOTE]
Only about the timeline and why is Tim 16. It's hard to tell because DC's editorial is a complete and total FUBAR of a clusterfuck, but it's possible enough time has passed for Jade to have had Roy's baby. They had sex in Titans during the "Batman breaks them up because Donna goes crazy in two hundred years" story, and birth control was not brought up so it's probable there's a little Lian incubating somewhere. Born yet? Maybe. About two years appear to have passed in universe, but it's hard to tell since no one who works in the editorial offices has a functioning brain.
Since Bendis is pointing fingers at Jason as the man behind Leviathan from the beginning, I figure that means the odds of it actually being him when all is said and done are extremely low. No guarantee that he’ll gave a good showing in it regardless but I’m not yet worried DC is turning him into another rogue to be passed around the heroes.
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4362143]Since Bendis is pointing fingers at Jason as the man behind Leviathan from the beginning, I figure that means the odds of it actually being him when all is said and done are extremely low. No guarantee that he’ll gave a good showing in it regardless but I’m not yet worried DC is turning him into another rogue to be passed around the heroes.[/QUOTE]
Well, I think he is pointing to Jason [B]not[/B] being behind Leviathan. Damian is going to attempt to prove that Jason isn't behind, so it's not so far fetched if Jason is actually connected to Leviathan in the end (shock value), or even Leviathan himself (which I think it's a lot less possible at this point, but still not an idea I would disregard yet).
[COLOR="#D3D3D3"][SUB]Meh, I'm probably just being wary of getting another of my faves being run over by Bendis or any event, for shock value. I guess we'll know soon, nothing will come of me being all fired up for something that may not happen.[/SUB][/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Zaresh;4362222]Well, I think he is pointing to Jason [B]not[/B] being behind Leviathan. Damian is going to attempt to prove that Jason isn't behind, so it's not so far fetched if Jason is actually connected to Leviathan in the end (shock value), or even Leviathan himself (which I think it's a lot less possible at this point, but still not an idea I would disregard yet).
[COLOR="#D3D3D3"][SUB]Meh, I'm probably just being wary of getting another of my faves being run over by Bendis or any event, for shock value. I guess we'll know soon, nothing will come of me being all fired up for something that may not happen.[/SUB][/COLOR][/QUOTE]
Even so, I just think that if Bendis intended for Jason to be Leviathan, he wouldn’t of been included at all so early in the story and saved for the middle - end for the reveal. I could be wrong though, it is Bendis after all.
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I didn't know that the batfamily spread by Tony S Daniel for Detective Comics #1000 originally looked a little different.
Unpublished spread ([URL="https://twitter.com/TonyDanielx2/status/1111361717513027584"]source[/URL])
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Final version
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I prefer the original version because it has a better family dynamic. In the final version you have Batman in the front and the rest in the background. There even seems to be a little bit of distance between Batman and the others.
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I prefer the original version because it has a better family dynamic. In the final version you have Batman in the front and the rest in the background. There even seems to be a little bit of distance between Batman and the others.[/QUOTE]
Totally agree, the original looks way better, Bruce looks so awkwardly placed in the final version.
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Oooh. That's... Chinese... circus? Right?
[QUOTE=Sergard;4362613]I didn't know that the batfamily spread by Tony S Daniel for Detective Comics #1000 originally looked a little different.
Unpublished spread ([URL="https://twitter.com/TonyDanielx2/status/1111361717513027584"]source[/URL])
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Final version
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I prefer the original version because it has a better family dynamic. In the final version you have Batman in the front and the rest in the background. There even seems to be a little bit of distance between Batman and the others.[/QUOTE]
Agree. The camera's pulled back too so they're not cramped.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4357030]So that's what Rocafort has been working on.
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[B]
RED HOOD: OUTLAW #37
Grab some ammo and settle in for the beginning of the [U][COLOR="#FF0000"]next generation of Outlaws![/COLOR][/U][/B]
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.. Bizarro and Artemis were PERFECT. :mad:
I’m not worried about that either. Figure Lobdell wouldn't dedicate the entire annual to Artemis & Biz if he didn’t have plans to bring them back (relatively) soon. For all we know, they could be brought back in the YOTV arc. I mean, who would’ve guessed we would have the return of Isabella, Al Caste, the blades, new Al Caste trainees, Ducra & Essence in a story about Jason taking over Penguin’s casino?
Hell, for all we know Luthor helping Jason find Artemis & Biz could end up being part of the deal.
[QUOTE=Arsenal;4362644]
Hell, for all we know Luthor helping Jason find Artemis & Biz could end up being part of the deal.[/QUOTE]
I hope that you are right in that.
RED HOOD: OUTLAW #37
written by SCOTT LOBDELL
art and cover by KENNETH ROCAFORT
variant cover by PHILIP TAN
yes!!!!!!!!!!! Rocafort!!!! I wish that the regular artist loved his work!