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The 4 phases of YOTV seem more or less directly connected to what Snyder’s building towards in Justice League. It’s unclear how it’ll impact any ongoing beyond JL or if there will be any tie-ins at all.
For all we know, it could be nothing more than Luthor appearing at the end of RH:O #36 to make Jason an offer, Jason rejects it and it ends there.
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[QUOTE=Arsenal;4302824]The 4 phases of YOTV seem more or less directly connected to what Snyder’s building towards in Justice League. It’s unclear how it’ll impact any ongoing beyond JL or if there will be any tie-ins at all.
For all we know, it could be nothing more than Luthor appearing at the end of RH:O #36 to make Jason an offer, Jason rejects it and it ends there.[/QUOTE]
I'm REALLY hoping so. But Jason was grouped in with other criminals in that line-up. And for some reason, DC has been giving Bendis free reign to do whatever he wants since coming in.
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[QUOTE=Jackalope89;4302856]I'm REALLY hoping so. But Jason was grouped in with other criminals in that line-up. And for some reason, DC has been giving Bendis free reign to do whatever he wants since coming in.[/QUOTE]
Lois, Babs & Selina are on the list too (according to the variants) so he’s not the only good person on that list.
Plus even if he accepts Luthor’s offer, Jason could just use it to get what he wants before bailing half way in or giving information to the league. Jason saying yes doesn’t automatically mean he’s going back to the dark side.
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[QUOTE=Arsenal;4302777][url]https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2019/04/11/dc’s-year-of-the-villain-1-keeps-the-heat-on-this-summer[/url]
One-Shot Spotlights the DCU’s Most Notorious Evildoers, Sets the Stage for Upcoming Blockbuster Stories in
JUSTICE LEAGUE, EVENT LEVIATHAN and BATMAN
Select July Titles to Feature Unique “Portrait” Variant Covers of
Characters Receiving “The Offer” from Lex Luthor[/QUOTE]
Why are all those portrait variant covers so f*cking beautiful and intense so that I can't stop looking at them? I'm not rich enough to afford them all.
I'm definitely digging those portraits more than the Detective Comics #1000 variants.
If Luthor offers Jason to bring Artemis and Bizarro back I hope Jason accepts. It's time for their return.
And if Jason and Slade finally team up I'll be the happiest person on the planet.
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[QUOTE=Arsenal;4302863]Lois, Babs & Selina are on the list too (according to the variants) so he’s not the only good person on that list.
Plus even if he accepts Luthor’s offer, Jason could just use it to get what he wants before bailing half way in or giving information to the league. Jason saying yes doesn’t automatically mean he’s going back to the dark side.[/QUOTE]
If it were most other authors, I'd be inclined to agree. But with Bendis, a guy infamous for ignoring pre-established continuity, and awful at getting certain characters right (he still hasn't gotten Lois down yet, for example), I'm a bit on edge.
[QUOTE=Sergard;4302917]Why are all those portrait variant covers so f*cking beautiful and intense so that I can't stop looking at them? I'm not rich enough to afford them all.
I'm definitely digging those portraits more than the Detective Comics #1000 variants.
If Luthor offers Jason to bring Artemis and Bizarro back I hope Jason accepts. It's time for their return.
And if Jason and Slade finally team up I'll be the happiest person on the planet.[/QUOTE]
I'm kind of over Deathstroke. He needs to be a better father to his own kids before he can ever think about lecturing someone else's kids.
If Luthor does offer to bring Artemis and Biz back, but demands Jason work with him in the meantime, I could see Jason do so, with intent to double cross him. But Luthor would be prepared for it, and have his own plan(s) in play before Jason could begin planning.
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Well, there's that rumor we've been hearing since last year and Leviathan it is a guy in both a red hood and helmet...
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[QUOTE=dietrich;4301278]You are not wrong. Robin used to be a total damsel in distress. being dressed in undies or tights didn't help matters. Son of Batman was my fist time seeing a cool Robin. One you could take seriously. However I didn't know the source material. Now having read the comics Robin is a character I respect more.
However a writer and a fan approach the character from different angles. I can see why a fan might view Robin as lame but creators can make Robin what ever they want.
Robin was meant to be a stand in. A power fantasy/self insert for fans maybe that's why creators have/had such disdain for him self inserts/audience standin characters are not amongst the lamest there are and don't allow for much writer expression. But still.
Likely why a lot of current writers enjoy Damian's Robin because he isn't an audience stand in. But still I think that Robin is a solid character and even creators who don't share that view shouldn't mock a big IP like Robin so casually[/QUOTE]
Gosh, I wish writers... heck, everyone at DC can be as professional as they think they are because one of the reasons for my rage quit is the clear bias they have. Writers for certain characters, higher-ups for certain writers. Like I know this company is half built on fanboyism but come on. Your job is to create fantasy heroes, but it sounds like you don't like kids.
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[QUOTE=Dark_Tzitzimine;4303017]Well, there's that rumor we've been hearing since last year and Leviathan it is a guy in both a red hood and helmet...[/QUOTE]
at this point in time i really hope its him because,he's stagnant and i see he's going nowhere. i mean if what going in action comics right now is because of him i say good for him. the offer might be in july but we all know red hood book is in its on little world and day to day until lobdell is force to write for current times and events
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I don't think Jason is anywhere near stagnant, at least in term of character development, especially if you compare him to other Bats. But if you meant stagnant as in his place in the DCU, then maybe, but changing him into a bad guy for the sake of an event sounds more like a move to sabotage rather than elevate his character.
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[QUOTE=redmax99;4303183]at this point in time i really hope its him because he's stagnant and i see he's going nowhere[/QUOTE]
No, oh. Everything but that. See, I know how a bad move can turn how audience see a certain character forever, and I think this could be a very dangerous move that could make the audience see Jason as an irredeemable villain for years to come. I don't like the idea of taking the risk. Besides...
He's going somewhere now. The previous arc was a bit messy, true: because, I suspect, it had to suffer through a sudden change in editorial plans because the new events and the changes in teams and staff. But now? For me, again, it's pretty clear that Lobdell is building Jason to break and fall into more than dubious ways. All the solicits we have seem point to that, and this month's issue (and to certain degree, the previous one and the previous art too) seem to point to Jason going to wild and loose, angry, even hostile. I feel some conflict in there and I feel like it's going to blow up in a few issues. Or, well, that's what I get. From time to time, Jason is going to mess up, and this feels like he's in that period of the cycle.
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On another note, seeing as they've cast Iain Glen as Bruce Wayne for Titans (great choice, btw), I was wondering if the reason why Jason has a more present role in the second season is because he's going to be Dick's sidekick instead of Bruce's. Glen is turning 58 yo soon (if I'm not mistaken), so it could be the case, that we're getting an old Bruce who's about to retire from Batman.
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[QUOTE=Zaresh;4303211]No, oh. Everything but that. See, I know how a bad move can turn how audience see a certain character forever, and I think this could be a very dangerous move that could make the audience see Jason as an irredeemable villain for years to come. I don't like the idea of taking the risk. Besides...
that's not true Jason been painted as irredeemable before and yet he still got a book out of being painted as the scum of the earth. Morrison wrote Jason so terrible that it took a great writer to write him back to status quo i mean winnick came in before the new 52, an in 3 issue of batman and robin jason was back to being the anti-hero and anti-villian everyone knew and loved. if scott lobdell is half a strong writer he is suppose to be he can turn jason around in 6 issues and not drag on,or down a story, with whatever silly story he wants to tell until he sure he has jason back to status quo.
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[QUOTE=G-Potion;4303202]I don't think Jason is anywhere near stagnant, at least in term of character development, especially if you compare him to other Bats. But if you meant stagnant as in his place in the DCU, then maybe, but changing him into a bad guy for the sake of an event sounds more like a move to sabotage rather than elevate his character.[/QUOTE]
jason always been a bad guy , he's kind hearted ,loving to family and friends and people who are nice to him. but the guy confirm kill count is 83 people and thats just from a mass poisoning in black gate they didn't even count the suicides that took place or murder on murder that happen. jason had a support system was the only reason he wasn't acting out. he mellowed out because tim and roy believed later starfire and than the rest of the batfamily. now his support system is gone what does jason has to lose being his truth-self some one thats a go getter for things he want .
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[QUOTE=Arsenal;4302824]The 4 phases of YOTV seem more or less directly connected to what Snyder’s building towards in Justice League. It’s unclear how it’ll impact any ongoing beyond JL or if there will be any tie-ins at all.
For all we know, it could be nothing more than Luthor appearing at the end of RH:O #36 to make Jason an offer, Jason rejects it and it ends there.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't even have to mean that. A variant cover more often than not doesn't have much to do with what's going on in the issue.
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RED HOOD: OUTLAW ANNUAL #3
written by SCOTT LOBDELL
art by ADAM POLLINA
cover by DEXTER SOY
Missing since the fateful events of issue #25, the story of what happened to Bizarro and Artemis after they were sucked through the quantum doorway can finally be told! Trapped in a strange reality where everyone with metahuman abilities has become normal and ordinary humans now possess powers, up is down, left is right and only a pair of Outlaws can save the day in a world gone mad. Meet strange new foes, and even stranger new allies. Can the Outlaws fix this broken world and still make it back to our world and their mission alongside the Red Hood?
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RED HOOD: OUTLAW #36
written by SCOTT LOBDELL
art by PETE WOODS
cover by DAN PANOSIAN
variant cover by YASMINE PUTRI
There’s no way to plan for every contingency...even for a son of the Bat like Jason Todd. His goal was to take down the Penguin and assume his role as the prince of Gotham, but the best laid plans go awry when Oswald Cobblepot gets the last laugh—and the last bullet! And not even the Red Hood and his posse can stop him. (How could they with the Iceberg Lounge under siege and Bunker, Wingman and the Sisters Su too busy to help Jason deal with a Penguin ascendant?) Don’t miss the startling conclusion to “Prince of Gotham!”
What can Lex Luthor offer former sidekick Jason Todd? Sidekicks…broken, battered and catastrophically dangerous sidekicks. The Teen Titans they’re not!
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