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[QUOTE=DragonsChi;4143429]Just wanted to poke my head in and say ...I AM SO GLAD SOMEONE AT MARVEL IS WRITING A GOOD NAMOR!!!!!!!!
It's about darn time.
As to the current topic....Namor is straight. Like super straight. Namor doesn't discriminate when he comes to women. Black, White, Green, or Gills if the woman is confident, strong , and respectable Namor is at the very least interested in her if not all about her.[/QUOTE]
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Not sure what you are trying to say with this?
Namor says that he leaves his Kingdom showings for women he is seducing. The Queen he kissed is a women....
I know it's weird (specially since it's clear that the writer was poking a little fun at Namor) but in the Marvel Universe there are probably human mutant women that look worst than that Queen does by our standards. Are those women less than and should not be loved by a Prince such as Namor? The answer is no.
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[QUOTE=DragonsChi;4143429]Just wanted to poke my head in and say ...I AM SO GLAD SOMEONE AT MARVEL IS WRITING A GOOD NAMOR!!!!!!!!
It's about darn time.
As to the current topic....Namor is straight. Like super straight. Namor doesn't discriminate when he comes to women. Black, White, Green, or Gills if the woman is confident, strong , and respectable Namor is at the very least interested in her if not all about her.[/QUOTE]
I also am very glad that someone is writing a good Namor at last!!!
[QUOTE=LordUltimus;4143311]What are your thoughts on Namor's sexuality?
I'm going with pansexual.[/QUOTE]
As to the panels you posted and the question: Namor doesn't mess around with kids which is what Hope was and he was discouraging her in his own way because he does like red heads (Lady Dorma) and thought the comics have stated that Namor pursues women (a lot) there is a case to be made for him being Bisexual. Atlanteans are much less interested in species or gender effecting their sexuality imo.
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Someone asked about my fancasts if Namor was ever going to be in a movie and I thought I would share the [URL="https://imperiuswrecked.tumblr.com/post/182068544298/hi-i-was-wondering-if-you-had-any-fancasts-for"]link [/URL]here.
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[QUOTE=DragonsChi;4143429]
As to the current topic....Namor is straight. Like super straight. Namor doesn't discriminate when he comes to women. Black, White, Green, or Gills if the woman is confident, strong , and respectable Namor is at the very least interested in her if not all about her.[/QUOTE]
The way I read it is Namor is one of the most straight superheroes in a very old conservative way.
The way Namor relates to:
Men = beat the hell out of them
Women= sex and romanticism, companionship and friendship
His sexual interest has always been 100% women. I've observed that in an almost barbaric way he pursues the females he likes and see other men simply as the competition (Reed and Sue, Cyclops and Emma Frost). He is the ultimate alpha male and a guy that probably consider all other men as his inferior as he probably enjoys proving himself against them as a sport to impress on women, the final prize. Probably outside of the Invaders and some very old friends atlanteans like Lord Vashti Namor doesn't have too many close guy friends.
Also one of the few or perhaps the only superhero that at a time when every hero had a male sidekick, he always preferred to have the close company of a woman. First Namora, then Namorita and in X-Men Hope got very close to him. The relationship with both under age girls Namorita and Hope in a non romantic way and mostly as a protective older brother.
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I raised it up because Dennis Hopeless said that the Secret Wars: House of M mini almost had Namor and Quicksilver in a gay relationship.
That is an alternate universe, though, so different rules apply.
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[QUOTE=Thor-El;4143562]The way I read it is Namor is one of the most straight superheroes in a very old conservative way.
Men = beat the hell out of them
Women= sex and romanticism, companionship and friendship
His sexual interest has always been 100% women. I've observed that in an almost barbaric way he pursues the females he likes and see other men simply as the competition (Reed and Sue, Cyclops and Emma Frost). He is the ultimate alpha male and a guy that probably consider all other men as his inferior as he probably enjoys proving himself against them as a sport to impress on women, the final prize. Probably outside of the Invaders and some very old friends atlanteans like Lord Vashti Namor doesn't have too many close guy friends.
Also one of the few or perhaps the only superhero that at a time when every hero had a male sidekick, he always preferred to have the close company of a woman. First Namora, then Namorita and in X-Men Hope got very close to him. The relationship with both under age girls Namorita and Hope in a non romantic way and mostly as a protective older brother.[/QUOTE]
Im not sure I see Namor as wife beater... or that being conservative is that strong of a relation to being a wife beater. However, I'm not from America.
I do feel however, that Namor has shown only interest in Women. I also feel that at times he goes out of his way to show the woman he interested in that he is, can be, and wants to be everything a woman would ever want in the man. He has the power, the money, the status, and so on. I also feel that in terms of love he treats his woman in the same manor as he does his kingdom. Putting it first before him, self- sacrificing his wants, and at times causing himself harm and/or pain to ensure their happiness. This is most evident with his relationship with the Invisible Woman.
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[QUOTE=DragonsChi;4143597]Im not sure I see Namor as wife beater... or that being conservative is that strong of a relation to being a wife beater. However, I'm not from America.
I do feel however, that Namor has shown only interest in Women. I also feel that at times he goes out of his way to show the woman he interested in that he is, can be, and wants to be everything a woman would ever want in the man. He has the power, the money, the status, and so on. I also feel that in terms of love he treats his woman in the same manor as he does his kingdom. Putting it first before him, self- sacrificing his wants, and at times causing himself harm and/or pain to ensure their happiness. This is most evident with his relationship with the Invisible Woman.[/QUOTE]
Woha! You are misunderstanding my post. Where did I imply that Namor was a wife beater? On the contrary, he is a women's protector. If it was the word "barbaric" I meant to say he will be persistent and not respect when the woman has already a companion.
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Does anyone knows what is this image from?
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[QUOTE=Thor-El;4143684]Does anyone knows what is this image from?
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This is from The Marvels Project issue 6 its a mini series that runs 8 issues and covers the golden age through the eyes of The Angel. I love it and it has this beautiful scene of Namor vs Human Torch:
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[QUOTE=Reviresco;4141320]So, now we know why this arc is called "War Ghost." Now my question is ... is Namor mad? Or is the ghost something else wearing a face? Cause, there's still the weirdness going on with Namor and his powers and his eyes, etc.[/QUOTE]
Has everyone forgotten the flower shaped alien currently in Namor's possession? It was introduced in the Hyperion series and gave powers to a bunch of carnies. It could also influence behavior.
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[QUOTE=ImperiusWrecked;4143728]This is from The Marvels Project issue 6 its a mini series that runs 8 issues and covers the golden age through the eyes of The Angel. I love it and it has this beautiful scene of Namor vs Human Torch:
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Thanks, IW, that's a beautiful panel. Been meaning to read that mini series for awhile and still haven't got to it! :P
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[QUOTE=LordUltimus;4143577]I raised it up because Dennis Hopeless said that the Secret Wars: House of M mini almost had Namor and Quicksilver in a gay relationship.
That is an alternate universe, though, so different rules apply.[/QUOTE]
House of M 2015 was supposed to revolve around Namor and Pietro being in a relationship and the main reason for the motivations behind them conspiring against Erik. Marvel scrapped that because they didn't want to deal with people trying to confirm if the two characters were bi or gay in the main 616 and they said they didn't want to do that unless it had lasting effects, however iirc they made Hercules and Wolverine in a relationship in an AU. [URL="https://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/08/25/the-inconsistent-rules-about-sexuality-and-secret-wars-at-marvel/"]Link[/URL]
Also an alternate cover was discarded as a choice because of this decision:
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[QUOTE=Thor-El;4143747]Thanks, IW, that's a beautiful panel. Been meaning to read that mini series for awhile and still haven't got to it! :P[/QUOTE]
No problem! It's a good series and you have the main three's history in there and honestly I am just a sucker for any retelling of the golden age Invaders meeting. :)
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[QUOTE=ImperiusWrecked;4143782]House of M 2015 was supposed to revolve around Namor and Pietro being in a relationship and the main reason for the motivations behind them conspiring against Erik. Marvel scrapped that because they didn't want to deal with people trying to confirm if the two characters were bi or gay in the main 616 and they said they didn't want to do that unless it had lasting effects, however iirc they made Hercules and Wolverine in a relationship in an AU. [URL="https://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/08/25/the-inconsistent-rules-about-sexuality-and-secret-wars-at-marvel/"]Link[/URL]
Also an alternate cover was discarded as a choice because of this decision:
[img]https://66.media.tumblr.com/5ae70a28349e44ab5d0ce34e67daa3bc/tumblr_inline_os6d4kqWjm1v0lkrd_1280.png[/img][/QUOTE]
In this case Im glad it didn’t happen. There is already a large enough stigma of men wearing speedos in America to have the Champion of the speedo forced outed in an alternate reality book.
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[QUOTE=DragonsChi;4143597]Im not sure I see Namor as [B]wife beater.[/B].. or that being conservative is that strong of a relation to being a [B]wife beater[/B]. However, I'm not from America.
I do feel however, that Namor has shown only interest in Women. I also feel that at times he goes out of his way to show the woman he interested in that he is, can be, and wants to be everything a woman would ever want in the man. He has the power, the money, the status, and so on. I also feel that in terms of love he treats his woman in the same manor as he does his kingdom. Putting it first before him, self- sacrificing his wants, and at times causing himself harm and/or pain to ensure their happiness. This is most evident with his relationship with the Invisible Woman.[/QUOTE]
Still scratching my head about the wife beater comment I re-read my post and added just one sentence to see if that clarifies it for you-new sentence is in bold:
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The way I read it is Namor is one of the most straight superheroes in a very old conservative way.
[B]The way Namor relates to:[/B]
Men = beat the hell out of them
Women= sex and romanticism, companionship and friendship
His sexual interest has always been 100% women. I've observed that in an almost barbaric way he pursues the females he likes and see other men simply as the competition (Reed and Sue, Cyclops and Emma Frost). He is the ultimate alpha male and a guy that probably consider all other men as his inferior as he probably enjoys proving himself against them as a sport to impress on women, the final prize. Probably outside of the Invaders and some very old friends atlanteans like Lord Vashti Namor doesn't have too many close guy friends.
Also one of the few or perhaps the only superhero that at a time when every hero had a male sidekick, he always preferred to have the close company of a woman. First Namora, then Namorita and in X-Men Hope got very close to him. The relationship with both under age girls Namorita and Hope in a non romantic way and mostly as a protective older brother.
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[QUOTE=Thor-El;4143836]Still scratching my head about the wife beater comment I re-read my post and added just one sentence to see if that clarifies it for you-new sentence is in bold:
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The way I read it is Namor is one of the most straight superheroes in a very old conservative way.
[B]The way Namor relates to:[/B]
Men = beat the hell out of them
Women= sex and romanticism, companionship and friendship
His sexual interest has always been 100% women. I've observed that in an almost barbaric way he pursues the females he likes and see other men simply as the competition (Reed and Sue, Cyclops and Emma Frost). He is the ultimate alpha male and a guy that probably consider all other men as his inferior as he probably enjoys proving himself against them as a sport to impress on women, the final prize. Probably outside of the Invaders and some very old friends atlanteans like Lord Vashti Namor doesn't have too many close guy friends.
Also one of the few or perhaps the only superhero that at a time when every hero had a male sidekick, he always preferred to have the close company of a woman. First Namora, then Namorita and in X-Men Hope got very close to him. The relationship with both under age girls Namorita and Hope in a non romantic way and mostly as a protective older brother.[/QUOTE]
No worries friend! I misunderstood what you wrote. English is not my first language and I find writing on forums to help my writing overall. However, there are times when things get lost in translation. LOL
Your correction here just further clears that up. So thank you for taking the time to do so, when you didn't have to.
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[QUOTE=DragonsChi;4143870]No worries friend! I misunderstood what you wrote. English is not my first language and I find writing on forums to help my writing overall. However, there are times when things get lost in translation. LOL
Your correction here just further clears that up. So thank you for taking the time to do so, when you didn't have to.[/QUOTE]
That's cool just making clear I don't think Namor is a wife beater, nor would I like it. LOL ;)
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Another Gif from "To Destroy a Tyrant" A time displaced Namor refuses to kill a defeated gladiator in Nero's arena in ancient Rome. Nero orders Namor to be chained and taken to be sacrificed to the fire demon. Of course Namor had to be enough time away from water and fighting in the arena so he cannot break mere chains. Or perhaps the time travel has some drying effects as well. Trying to explain why he would be having trouble here.
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From the 60s Namor cartoon "To Destroy a Tyrant" - By order of the wicked emperor Nero, Namor is tied up to stakes and placed in a pyre as a sacrifice to the demon god Vulcanus.
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[QUOTE=Thor-El;4144050]From the 60s Namor cartoon "To Destroy a Tyrant" - By order of the wicked emperor Nero, Namor is tied up to stakes and placed in a pyre as a sacrifice to the demon god Vulcanus.[/QUOTE]
these gifs are great.
I remember speaking with a 70+ year old Star Trek fan who was around then the og series aired and we spoke about Spock and Namor and how similar they looked. Even that Spock as a blonde friend named Jim. She told me that the creator Roddenberry would have been about 18 when Namor was in the comics and he was a fan of science fiction and comics and we theorized that he might have been subconsciously influenced by Namor's looks and being a half breed for the creation of Spock. So seeing the name Vulcanus again reminded me of that.
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[QUOTE=Thor-El;4144050]From the 60s Namor cartoon "To Destroy a Tyrant" - By order of the wicked emperor Nero, Namor is tied up to stakes and placed in a pyre as a sacrifice to the demon god Vulcanus.
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Noooo! Not chained over FLAMES!
What is it about Namor in chains?
Loving the gifs, Thor-El! Thank you so much for posting them.
Been busy the last couple of days. Very frustrating since we are in the middle of the best Namor week we've had in years! But I'll try to catch up tomorrow.
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[QUOTE=DragonsChi;4143429][B]Just wanted to poke my head in and say ...I AM SO GLAD SOMEONE AT MARVEL IS WRITING A GOOD NAMOR!!!!!!!!
It's about darn time.[/B]
As to the current topic....Namor is straight. Like super straight. Namor doesn't discriminate when he comes to women. Black, White, Green, or Gills if the woman is confident, strong , and respectable Namor is at the very least interested in her if not all about her.[/QUOTE]
I like this no nonsense Namor too. It's about time he started letting sea dwellers know who's boss and gathering allies because his surface friends are never around when he needs them. Best Sub-Mariner characterization since Fraction's Defenders.
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Finally had a chance to read MCP and Invaders. Both of these were really great. I wouldn't mind if they included the Namor story in the Invaders TPB since it syncs up well thematically.
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Bleeding Cool is reporting that Invaders #1 AND Marvel Comics Presents are going back for a 2nd printings!!
[url]https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/01/18/invaders-1-marvel-comics-presents-criminal-second-printings/[/url]
And Namor's Best Defense book also went to a 2nd printing. People are finally appreciating our Prince, this year. Of course, Wolverine and Cap have nothing to do with this. LOL
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[QUOTE=Reviresco;4145036]Bleeding Cool is reporting that Invaders #1 AND Marvel Comics Presents are going back for a 2nd printings!!
[url]https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/01/18/invaders-1-marvel-comics-presents-criminal-second-printings/[/url]
And Namor's Best Defense book also went to a 2nd printing. People are finally appreciating our Prince, this year. Of course, Wolverine and Cap have nothing to do with this. LOL[/QUOTE]
Woohoo! Great news! I'm no psychic but I can see the stars aligning for a Namor ongoing in the very near future!
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[QUOTE=Thor-El;4145264]Woohoo! Great news! I'm no psychic but I can see the stars aligning for a Namor ongoing in the very near future![/QUOTE]
I hope so! and Chip tweeted about it too and even mentioned Defenders! [URL="https://twitter.com/zdarsky/status/1086315185999175681"]Link[/URL]
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[QUOTE=ImperiusWrecked;4145466]I hope so! and Chip tweeted about it too and even mentioned Defenders! [URL="https://twitter.com/zdarsky/status/1086315185999175681"]Link[/URL][/QUOTE]
Yes I saw that! :)
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[QUOTE=Things Fall Apart;4144915]Finally had a chance to read MCP and Invaders. Both of these were really great. I wouldn't mind if they included the Namor story in the Invaders TPB since it sinks up well thematically.[/QUOTE]
My pocket book would appreciate it. ;p Thematically, the setting, and both coming out the same day -- I really felt it was one great story. I wonder if Zdarsky read Pak's story ahead of time?
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I was rereading Defenders and Invaders back to back and just how did I not see Machan? I remembered reading Defenders and getting so upset that Machan's ears were rounded I mentioned this to a friend and I thought that Magno had forgotten the pointed Atlantean ears, but now in hindsight I see that it was a clue and done on purpose because others do have the pointed ears.
Also if you notice in Invaders, the first time we see a close up of Namor's eyes in the present after he woke up from his nightmare they are blue with black sclera but then in the end when he is closer/speaking to Machan and unleashing his power you see they are completely black. It's these little details that just make the comics *chef kiss* amazing.
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[QUOTE=ImperiusWrecked;4145612]I was rereading Defenders and Invaders back to back and just how did I not see Machan? I remembered reading Defenders and getting so upset that Machan's ears were rounded I mentioned this to a friend and I thought that Magno had forgotten the pointed Atlantean ears, but now in hindsight I see that it was a clue and done on purpose because others do have the pointed ears.
Also if you notice in Invaders, the first time we see a close up of Namor's eyes in the present after he woke up from his nightmare they are blue with black sclera but then in the end when he is closer/speaking to Machan and unleashing his power you see they are completely black. It's these little details that just make the comics *chef kiss* amazing.[/QUOTE]
Wow. I didn't notice Machan's ears at all. I was just getting creeped out about him with his constantly clasped hands.
I remembered what I posted in the 365 thread. The valets giving Namor the side eye, and wondering about that.
The eye thing, and NO ONE mentioning it really bothering me.
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[QUOTE=Reviresco;4145622]Wow. I didn't notice Machan's ears at all. I was just getting creeped out about him with his constantly clasped hands.
I remembered what I posted in the 365 thread. The valets giving Namor the side eye, and wondering about that.
The eye thing, and NO ONE mentioning it really bothering me.[/QUOTE]
It's bothering me too!!! I have a feeling that maybe no one can see the black eyes? I mean Aaron didn't take any time at all but maybe when Steve shows up in Invaders to see Namor we might get something???
I hadn't noticed the Valets until you posted about them and then I had a big hold face palm becaus OF course they are giving weird looks, Namor is talking to thin air!!!
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[QUOTE=ImperiusWrecked;4145629]It's bothering me too!!! I have a feeling that maybe no one can see the black eyes? I mean Aaron didn't take any time at all but maybe when Steve shows up in Invaders to see Namor we might get something???
I hadn't noticed the Valets until you posted about them and then I had a big hold face palm becaus OF course they are giving weird looks, Namor is talking to thin air!!![/QUOTE]
If they couldn't see underwater, they sure could see them when Defenders of the Deep attacked that sealab thingee. Black Panther, who is supposed to have all those heightened senses, was staring him right in the face. Cap was in his face underwater ... and I think at the sealab too.
Instead, we get Jim Hammond, who hasn't even seen Namor in this state, having to tell Cap that something was wrong with Namor. #RealFriends
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[QUOTE=Reviresco;4145674]If they couldn't see underwater, they sure could see them when Defenders of the Deep attacked that sealab thingee. Black Panther, who is supposed to have all those heightened senses, was staring him right in the face. Cap was in his face underwater ... and I think at the sealab too.
Instead, we get Jim Hammond, who hasn't even seen Namor in this state, having to tell Cap that something was wrong with Namor. #RealFriends[/QUOTE]
When Steve faced Namor, Namor's eyes were fine...
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As opposed to one or two pages later, after Steve had already left...
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In the first set of panels you can see the whites of his eyes, in the second you cannot. Can't really fault Steve, here.
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[QUOTE=capandkirby;4145698]When Steve faced Namor, Namor's eyes were fine...
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As opposed to one or two pages later, after Steve had already left...
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In the first set of panels you can see the whites of his eyes, in the second you cannot. Can't really fault Steve, here.[/QUOTE]
This could be a coloring error but it could also be whatever is influencing Namor knows when to hide its presence, that would be cool.
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[QUOTE=Thor-El;4146085]This could be a coloring error but it could also be whatever is influencing Namor knows when to hide its presence, that would be cool.[/QUOTE]
Sure, it could be a coloring error. I admit that. But why automatically do a bad faith reading on Cap is the thing I was mostly trying to point out. Is he a different kind of friend then Jim? Sure. Jim's more in-touch with his sensitive side than either Steve or Namor or even Bucky are. From Steve Namor gets blunt honesty, Steve's the type of friend who will tell you straight-up when you're being an idiot, but he'd also take a bullet for you in a heartbeat. From Jim comes the sympathy and more compassionate nature. They are different. That's why they make a good team *shrug*. If they were all the same they wouldn't have pushed each other to be as effective as they were as Invaders. Doesn't mean Steve doesn't care. Obviously he does, he dropped everything to run to Namor despite Tony beseeching him not to and despite the fact that the Avengers chair, T'Challa, probably will not be too happy with Steve for abandoning his post when there is both a war with Atlantis on the horizon and some sort of Vampire Civil War that Jason Aaron is trying to set up.
I empathize a bit with the rock and the hard place Steve is stuck in here. He is at odds with the American government. When Ross complained to Steve that T'Challa was the Avengers chair, which put the Avengers under the purview of Wakanda instead of America, Steve told Ross straight up, I don't work for you and the Avengers do not belong to any one country. And now he's taking a leave of the Avengers to go try and save someone they see as a foe, someone they are prepared to go to war with. Should Steve fail in any of this, he'll have zero recourse after it, he would have burned all his bridges. And still he's doing it. That's a pretty big declaration of love for Namor. He showed this same single-mindedness when saving Bucky during Brubaker's run, if we all recall. It's who Steve is, maybe he's not the most expressive of guys but his actions speak for him.
...Also, it was Steve, during Robinson's All New Invaders run, that organized and planned Namor's rescue from the Kree, recruiting Jim and Bucky into it.
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What is really interesting to me about this War Ghosts storyline is that it's been seeded very devout Namor fans. If you've been gobbling up all his appearances you are getting a complex story about him that's lost on people only checking out Avengers.
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[QUOTE=capandkirby;4146146]Sure, it could be a coloring error. I admit that. But why automatically do a bad faith reading on Cap is the thing I was mostly trying to point out. Is he a different kind of friend then Jim? Sure. Jim's more in-touch with his sensitive side than either Steve or Namor or even Bucky are. From Steve Namor gets blunt honesty, Steve's the type of friend who will tell you straight-up when you're being an idiot, but he'd also take a bullet for you in a heartbeat. From Jim comes the sympathy and more compassionate nature. They are different. That's why they make a good team *shrug*. If they were all the same they wouldn't have pushed each other to be as effective as they were as Invaders. Doesn't mean Steve doesn't care. Obviously he does, he dropped everything to run to Namor despite Tony beseeching him not to and despite the fact that the Avengers chair, T'Challa, probably will not be too happy with Steve for abandoning his post when there is both a war with Atlantis on the horizon and some sort of Vampire Civil War that Jason Aaron is trying to set up.
I empathize a bit with the rock and the hard place Steve is stuck in here. He is at odds with the American government. When Ross complained to Steve that T'Challa was the Avengers chair, which put the Avengers under the purview of Wakanda instead of America, Steve told Ross straight up, I don't work for you and the Avengers do not belong to any one country. And now he's taking a leave of the Avengers to go try and save someone they see as a foe, someone they are prepared to go to war with. Should Steve fail in any of this, he'll have zero recourse after it, he would have burned all his bridges. And still he's doing it. That's a pretty big declaration of love for Namor. He showed this same single-mindedness when saving Bucky during Brubaker's run, if we all recall. It's who Steve is, maybe [B]he's not the most expressive of guys but his actions speak for him[/B].
...Also, it was Steve, during Robinson's All New Invaders run, that organized and planned Namor's rescue from the Kree, recruiting Jim and Bucky into it.[/QUOTE]
Oh, for sure. I love some things that Jason Aaron has done with Thor and others I don't care too much so we will have to wait and see. It could be just mischaracterization of how Cap would behave with Namor by Jason Aaron or it could be that everything has a purpose and this entity that we think is controlling Namor knows when to hide itself. Any way I'm glad the story is being picked up by Zdarsky because he seems to have a good handle of all the characters even though I have a hunch the War on Realms will have some deep connections with this Namor story.
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From Namor's cartoon Episode 5: The Thing from Space" Namor fights Attuma's army in the outskirts of Atlantis and defeats them.
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From Namor's cartoon Episode 5: The Thing from Space" Namor fights Attuma's army in the outskirts of Atlantis and defeats them.
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