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[QUOTE=Crimz;4290445]Why has Marvel never played up her status as the "first lady" of Marvel? They could have used it to elevate her profile more.[/QUOTE]
There are many aspects to Sue which remain terribly underdeveloped. Sue's "first lady" status is certainly one of those and in an era when Carol Danvers is getting Marvel's push, Sue's founding role deserves a good part of the credit.
Sue needs to become a heroine for the 21st century and not have her and Reed trapped by fans reposting dated 50 yr old panels from a time when those behaviors were accepted. Sue's history needs a good cleaning. All that's been updated is her "commies" comment from FF 1 (you know the actual FF1).
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I reckon this is truly the era of Susan storm coming up though. In the past she was developed because let’s be honest, most of the creative team was male and they weren’t as interested in her as the other three and Doom. Then there was a lull where there was obvious the rights issue but not she has every opportunity to shine and not only are there more women creatives but quite a lot are mothers too and probably have their own real world experiences to share.
So good times ahead I hope
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[QUOTE=Silvermoth;4292798]I reckon this is truly the era of Susan storm coming up though. In the past she was developed because let’s be honest, most of the creative team was male and they weren’t as interested in her as the other three and Doom. Then there was a lull where there was obvious the rights issue but not she has every opportunity to shine and not only are there more women creatives but quite a lot are mothers too and probably have their own real world experiences to share.
So good times ahead I hope[/QUOTE]
I really hope you're right.
Also, with Marvel having the film rights back I wonder what they have planned. They are definitely going to give her a role beyond "Reed's girlfriend" on the initial flight, I wonder what it will be and whether it will effect comic Sue too.
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[QUOTE=Crimz;4290275]Since like forever lol. A lot of my posts are about how underutilized her character is outside of being a mother and how people use her motherhood as an excuse not to have solo adventures.[/QUOTE]
I was making a joke. You don’t have to be here very long to know that you are the forum’s A1 Sue fan!
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Sue is getting her own book this July by Mark Waid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?123493-Invisible-Woman-solo-in-July[/url]!!!!
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[QUOTE=Crimz;4298022]Sue is getting her own book this July by Mark Waid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[url]https://community.cbr.com/showthread.php?123493-Invisible-Woman-solo-in-July[/url]!!!![/QUOTE]
I just saw this and thought of you!! congrats boo!!
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[QUOTE=butterflykyss;4298038]I just saw this and thought of you!! congrats boo!![/QUOTE]
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Congratulations, Sue fans - you deserve this. One more first lady of '60s Marvel ([i]the[/i] first) getting the respect she earned.
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Unbelievable.
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Long overdue, but it's just a five issue mini.
Support it if you want an ongoing!
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I’m intrigued. Not sure about the writer
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Once again, "It's about damn time".
I am so pumped that Sue is FINALLY getting a mini. I hope it does well and results in an on-going. I still wish she would become some sort of intergalactic diplomat or something, since we have seen she is good at diplomacy during Hickman's run. But, I am also intruiged what her history as a S.H.I.E.L.D agent will reveal about her and what fun stories it can introduce to us.
I am also very hapy about Mark Waid writing her and have faith he will do her justice and give her a voice that I am personally satisfied with. Also, I am curious about the mystery partner from her missions.
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well hopefully the mini will be successful and in 2020 there will be another.
I don't trust Marvel to sustain it as an ongoing. "bench" heroes getting ongoings- It's just not what they do anymore.
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oh wow, y'all scored big on the artist too! I hope it proves to be as joyous and worthy of the fandom as y'all hope it to be!
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I like Waid’s Sue.
And I like the artist.
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I re-read SHIELD (2014-2015) #4 and the upcoming mini could be something really great.
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I so want to see a MAX story with Sue and Jessica Jones making sailors blush with their language.
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Crimz - It took the news about Sue to get me to return to this board after an absence of several months. You should be ecstatic. Quite frankly, I did not know if this would ever happen.
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Having thought about it. I think mini's are best way to have many characters attached to teams strike out on their own.
Ongoings are nice, but not all there is. It could be quite unwieldy to have an ongoing at the same time as a character being apart of a team without contradictions coming up. I think mini/maxi books are perfect for solo Sue adventures. The creative team comes in and tells the story they want then go. No stretching for more issues, no slow pacing, (hopefully) no artist changes every 5 issues.
Tom King's Mister Miracle and Vision series are a testament to that. He had a story to tell and told it. If he has more to tell then they bring back the series for another 12 or so issues to tell the next chapter.
That's what I hope comes from this book. The possibility for more series for Sue in the future, not an ongoing which isn't always the best.
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Like i said in other board. Im excited. Just no damsel stuff, no object of villains desire, no namor.
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Sue in an upcoming issue of Captain America:
[URL="https://www.instagram.com/p/BwI9DFUgPtl/"]Art by Adam Kubert[/URL]
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It can be good year for Sue.
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[QUOTE=Crimz;4302684]Sue in an upcoming issue of Captain America:
[URL="https://www.instagram.com/p/BwI9DFUgPtl/"]Art by Adam Kubert[/URL]
[URL="https://twitter.com/AdamKubert/status/1116539579480322048"][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/IbkZORq.jpg?1[/IMG][/URL][/QUOTE]
Lol is it me or does Sue look like shes about to tell the fat girl in high school shes "too ugly" to date the QB.
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My favorite female character (with Monica Rambeau ,and John Byrne She-hulk). Mark Waid is really hit or miss for me, but more hits than miss: his Daredevil is one of my favorites run, and his Doctor Strange was cool.
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I hope she finally gets her own unique costume in this. She can't wear her FF costume on missions that are meant to be secret even from her team and giving her the basic SHIELD uniform would be boring.
It's the chance to give her something new!
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Stephanie Hans variant cover for Invisible Woman #1
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There is also going to be a Steve Mcniven one who is one of my favorite artists for Sue.
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FEARLESS #1 (OF 3)
SEANAN MCGUIRE, LEAH WILLIAMS & MORE (W) • CLAIRE ROE & MORE (A) COVER BY YASMINE PUTRI
CONNECTING VARIANT COVER BY JENNY FRISON
VARIANT COVER BY TBA
THE FIERCEST LADIES OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE – ON AND OFF THE PAGE!
Straight off her silver-screen debut, Captain Marvel takes the world by storm! And speaking of the weather, Storm of the X-Men faces a problem only a goddess could solve. Add the Invisible Woman, and you’ve got an unstoppable trio in a story by Hugo-nominated novelist and SPIDER-GWEN: GHOST-SPIDER writer Seanan McGuire! Then, Leah Williams takes us back to the golden days of romance with Millie the Model! Plus: Get your dose of herstory with profiles on classic and contemporary creators!
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[QUOTE=Crimz;4312485]Stephanie Hans variant cover for Invisible Woman #1
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There is also going to be a Steve Mcniven one who is one of my favorite artists for Sue.[/QUOTE]
I'm generally not a big fan of blank covers, but for Sue's book, it would be a very nice touch. I so want a blank variant cover for Invisible Woman 1.
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[QUOTE=Grim Fandango;4312501]
FEARLESS #1 (OF 3)
SEANAN MCGUIRE, LEAH WILLIAMS & MORE (W) • CLAIRE ROE & MORE (A) COVER BY YASMINE PUTRI
CONNECTING VARIANT COVER BY JENNY FRISON
VARIANT COVER BY TBA
THE FIERCEST LADIES OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE – ON AND OFF THE PAGE!
Straight off her silver-screen debut, Captain Marvel takes the world by storm! And speaking of the weather, Storm of the X-Men faces a problem only a goddess could solve. Add the Invisible Woman, and you’ve got an unstoppable trio in a story by Hugo-nominated novelist and SPIDER-GWEN: GHOST-SPIDER writer Seanan McGuire! Then, Leah Williams takes us back to the golden days of romance with Millie the Model! Plus: Get your dose of herstory with profiles on classic and contemporary creators![/QUOTE]
This is a great year for Sue!
[QUOTE=CaptCleghorn;4312547]I'm generally not a big fan of blank covers, but for Sue's book, it would be a very nice touch. I so want a blank variant cover for Invisible Woman 1.[/QUOTE]
It makes so much sense to do it.
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It's amazing how only a year ago she was in nothing. Now Sue is in several books besides the FF:
[B]Invisible Woman[/B] - She will finally have her own mini!
[B]Captain America[/B] - On the Daughters of Liberty team (hopefully it gets a spin off)
[B]Fearless[/B] - I don't know whether it's a team-up or three separate stories, but it's really cool that she is one of the three heroines involved
I've said for a while now that Sue needs to show up more outside of her team and boy is Marvel giving us just that!
2019 is shaping up to be a really great year for Sue!:o
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Sue is in Captain America #10:
[url]http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/2019/05/03/marvel-preview-captain-america-10/[/url]
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[QUOTE=Crimz;4337755]Sue is in Captain America #10:
[url]http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/2019/05/03/marvel-preview-captain-america-10/[/url]
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ooh I like superspy Susan!
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[QUOTE=RachelGrey;4337869]ooh I like superspy Susan![/QUOTE]
Same. It seems to be the direction they are going for her outside of the FF. I just hope her missions and things are intergalactic and inter-dimensional, things to separate her from Black Widow and other Marvel spies.
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I always said Susan should play the spy and undercover agent on covert operations.
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[url]https://twitter.com/ColleenDoran/status/1124390118352093187[/url]
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[QUOTE=Crimz;4338107]Same. It seems to be the direction they are going for her outside of the FF. I just hope her missions and things are intergalactic and inter-dimensional, things to separate her from Black Widow and other Marvel spies.[/QUOTE]
I like seeing Sue occasionally doing espionage work. Her powers, intelligence, and her physical abilities (she's in shape, yo!) make her prime material for this. But most of what we've seen from Sue goes against the black-ops part of spycraft.
Back in the seventies, Bionic Woman and Wonder Woman were shows that showcased competent heroines. BUT there was more of a peaceful attitude about them. The goal was, far more often than not, to avoid just beating the crap out of the bad guys. While we have Elektra and Black Widow to perform Kick-@$$ tasks, I still would prefer Sue to focus on olive branches and peaceful resolutions, even if it's retro and borderline corny.
I loved Doug Moench's Master of Kung Fu series and the rising and advancing of a spirit philosophy of it. Shang-Chi got tired of the spycraft and "games of deceit and death. I think Sue's pretty far along on that journey. But, as always, I am open to other opinions.
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[QUOTE=CaptCleghorn;4338437]I like seeing Sue occasionally doing espionage work. Her powers, intelligence, and her physical abilities (she's in shape, yo!) make her prime material for this. But most of what we've seen from Sue goes against the black-ops part of spycraft.
Back in the seventies, Bionic Woman and Wonder Woman were shows that showcased competent heroines. BUT there was more of a peaceful attitude about them. The goal was, far more often than not, to avoid just beating the crap out of the bad guys. While we have Elektra and Black Widow to perform Kick-@$$ tasks, I still would prefer Sue to focus on olive branches and peaceful resolutions, even if it's retro and borderline corny.
I loved Doug Moench's Master of Kung Fu series and the rising and advancing of a spirit philosophy of it. Shang-Chi got tired of the spycraft and "games of deceit and death. I think Sue's pretty far along on that journey. But, as always, I am open to other opinions.
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I think many spy stories tend to mix spy work with assassinations and things. The main point of being a spy is intelligence gathering, it's all about getting the info covertly and getting out. Sue wouldn't be fighting unless things have gone horribly wrong. Too often spy stories rely on the morally questionable aspects, not every spy story should be about that and that shouldn't be Sue's story. That is more of a Black Widow thing. A Sue Storm spy story should be about using her powers and skills to gather intelligence that helps people. She wouldn't be involved in the shady spy stuff as that is against what she's all about.
I see her mini book as potentially fleshing out her character and personality in an unexpected way. I found an interview with Mark Waid that talked a little about the book and he mentioned her partner and meeting other classic Marvel spies. It looks like it could be fun. What will be most interesting is finding out why she agreed to be a spy, it could inform a lot about who she is and her thought process.
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[QUOTE=Crimz;4338810]I think many spy stories tend to mix spy work with assassinations and things. The main point of being a spy is intelligence gathering, it's all about getting the info covertly and getting out. Sue wouldn't be fighting unless things have gone horribly wrong. Too often spy stories rely on the morally questionable aspects, not every spy story should be about that and that shouldn't be Sue's story. That is more of a Black Widow thing. A Sue Storm spy story should be about using her powers and skills to gather intelligence that helps people. She wouldn't be involved in the shady spy stuff as that is against what she's all about.
I see her mini book as potentially fleshing out her character and personality in an unexpected way. I found an interview with Mark Waid that talked a little about the book and he mentioned her partner and meeting other classic Marvel spies. It looks like it could be fun. What will be most interesting is finding out why she agreed to be a spy, it could inform a lot about who she is and her thought process.[/QUOTE]
There's a tendency in comic books to get to the fight scene. The subtleties that could be expressed in a live action scene and the fear of getting caught are much more difficult to express in a comic book story. I also am looking forward to seeing Sue's behavior and thoughts in new locations without her usual cast. But I don't see Sue's big thing as being a spy. I have no problem with being a minority opinion on this and that may actually make me more vocal about it.
I am looking forward to the mini and wish it's as good as we hope.