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Honestly though Scott and Dani have always had a strong relationship. He's respected her as a leader and in many cases they've had words on how each other ran teams. I don't find this TOO bizarre, especially considered all of her best friends have basically been driven off the team or died because of this "war."
Though, heck I'm still confused why we haven't learned Dark Beast actually has been screwing with everyone all along and they all turn into a giant pile of Warlock bits before X returns.
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[QUOTE=Zelena;4453179]I can't help thinking that it would have worked better if Dani had looked mad at Scott…[/QUOTE]
I dunno, that body language was all over the place and then she ran away when he dropped the S-bomb. Might as well have captioned that moment "You only think of m... us as soldiers! You don't care! Just go back to your evil ex already! Waaahhh!"
In all seriousness, I'm basing that wild Xavier in psychic drag theory on that comment JDW made on Scott being judged for his actions rather than the stuff he did waaayyy back. Sure, it comes off as a total lie at face value, but surely the man would know better than to flat out lie like that, right? I'm thinking he shadow-spoiled the run's surprise ending by basically Scott was currently on trial. Not only that, but given how the past few issues have been hijacked/ruined by high-tier telepathy, Xavier being involved and being a total dick would be the logical next step.
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[QUOTE=Zelena;4453179]I can't help thinking that it would have worked better if Dani had looked mad at Scott…[/QUOTE]
Lol, she ran away in the last panel like a high school girl.
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[QUOTE=KangMiRae;4453242]Lol, she ran away in the last panel like a high school girl.[/QUOTE]
Reading the conversation as a high-school girl being upset her crush will be dating someone else makes it work perfectly.
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Y'all X-fans are way too obsessed with Shipping. Like I'm reading a god damn Sherlock Holmes message board.
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[QUOTE=FluffyCyclopsRLZ;4453237]I dunno, that body language was all over the place and then she ran away when he dropped the S-bomb. Might as well have captioned that moment "You only think of m... us as soldiers! You don't care! Just go back to your evil ex already! Waaahhh!"
In all seriousness, I'm basing that wild Xavier in psychic drag theory on that comment JDW made on Scott being judged for his actions rather than the stuff he did waaayyy back. Sure, it comes off as a total lie at face value, but surely the man would know better than to flat out lie like that, right? I'm thinking he shadow-spoiled the run's surprise ending by basically Scott was currently on trial. Not only that, but given how the past few issues have been hijacked/ruined by high-tier telepathy, Xavier being involved and being a total dick would be the logical next step.[/QUOTE]
Well some of the events are really weird, like when Jono died. that was Comical. Things scalating too fast
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[QUOTE=Woozie;4453249][B]Y'all X-fans are way too obsessed with Shipping[/B]. Like I'm reading a god damn Sherlock Holmes message board.[/QUOTE]
Preach.
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[QUOTE=Woozie;4453249]Y'all X-fans are way too obsessed with Shipping. Like I'm reading a god damn Sherlock Holmes message board.[/QUOTE]
Well X-Men is stated by the editor to be a Soap. Do shipping will be a big part of things, especially when a ship can make or break individual characters.
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[QUOTE=Silver Fang;4453374]Well X-Men is stated by the editor to be a [B]Soap[/B]. Do shipping will be a big part of things, especially when a ship can make or break individual characters.[/QUOTE]
And given that "Soaps" are in and of themselves dated and cliche, I think it's best they not try to copy that genre going forward. It worked back in the 80's because of Dynasty, Dallas, DoOL and TYatR but...they (editors and writers alike) need to stop with all that 'incestuous' relationship/family/love triangle nonsense.
Or, at the very least, severely cut back on it.
Thankfully, from what I've read of HiX-Man, his love-plots do not really take the lead as to where stories and characters go. They're more like sub-sub-plots.
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;4453400]And given that "Soaps" are in and of themselves dated and cliche, I think it's best they not try to copy that genre going forward. It worked back in the 80's because of Dynasty, Dallas, DoOL and TYatR but...they (editors and writers alike) need to stop with all that 'incestuous' relationship/family/love triangle nonsense.
Or, at the very least, severely cut back on it.[/QUOTE]
Well we have Hickman speaking of mutant orgies and JDW talking about Hickman redefining X-Men Style love.
[IMG]https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/silverfang2/29185537/1284147/1284147_900.png[/IMG]
[IMG]https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/silverfang2/29185537/1290533/1290533_900.png[/IMG]
So we may be getting even more frisky in the future.
Then again, orgies and polyamory would drastically reduce shipping wars. Everyone would be getting a bit of something.
Of course this could be a troll. But who knows.
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;4453400]'incestuous' relationship
[/QUOTE]
Eww, when has that happened?
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[QUOTE=phoenixzero23;4453415]Eww, when was that happened?[/QUOTE]
It's the term when you have a close set of people who consider each other family, but also openly date within group. Not technically true incest.
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Soap operas are known to pull that Skywalker incest twist, world round.
I agree with Devaishwarya, it's the icing on X-men and certainly not the main attraction, and it's dated and stale. And incestuous in the sense that you have a limited pool of characters cycling through romances randomly mixing and matching for decades.
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I just meant incestuous in essence...They're like one big extended family so other than the Scott and Jean relationship which was pre-established I personally see everyone else as brothers and sisters and first cousins. (I know that's just me.) That's why I never ever bother with any "Shipping" as I don't find them written to be very interesting.
I don't mind at all when they date outside of the franchise as with Storm and T'Challa but Nightcrawler should not be hooking up with Rachel.
And definitely what Four4elements says. :)
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;4453430]I just meant incestuous in essence...They're like one big extended family so other than the Scott and Jean relationship which was pre-established I personally see everyone else as brothers and sisters and first cousins. (I know that's just me.) That's why I never ever bother with any "Shipping" as I don't find them written to be very interesting.
I don't mind at all when they date outside of the franchise as with Storm and T'Challa but Nightcrawler should not be hooking up with Rachel.[/QUOTE]
You are right and thanks for your explanation.
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[QUOTE=Devaishwarya;4453430]That's why I never ever bother with any "Shipping" as I don't find them written to be very interesting.[/QUOTE]
Actually, you just raised another good point, romance in Xmen books isnt particularly well written or compelling. At moments when I do find it interesting, it's more just from the combination of two unlikely personalities like Scott and Emma.
Wouldnt recommend any Marvel writers transition into romance novels.
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[QUOTE=four4elements;4453445]Actually, you just raised another good point, romance in Xmen books isnt particularly well written or compelling. At moments when I do find it interesting, [B]it's more just from the combination of two unlikely personalities like Scott and Emma.[/B]
[B]Wouldnt recommend any Marvel writers transition into romance novels.[/B][/QUOTE]
Exatatiously!
and...
Oh Gawd, No! LOL
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[QUOTE=Silver Fang;4453414]Well we have Hickman speaking of mutant orgies and JDW talking about Hickman redefining X-Men Style love.
[IMG]https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/silverfang2/29185537/1284147/1284147_900.png[/IMG]
[IMG]https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/silverfang2/29185537/1290533/1290533_900.png[/IMG]
So we may be getting even more frisky in the future.
Then again, orgies and polyamory would drastically reduce shipping wars. Everyone would be getting a bit of something.
Of course this could be a troll. But who knows.[/QUOTE]
Hickman knows what he is getting into.
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[QUOTE=Woozie;4453249]Y'all X-fans are way too obsessed with Shipping. Like I'm reading a god damn Sherlock Holmes message board.[/QUOTE]
I literally only read comicbooks for the shipping.
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I'm a shipper but when love drama becomes the most important thing I start to get bored. Sure that topic has its place but it shouldn't derail other stories.
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[QUOTE=KangMiRae;4453486]I literally only read comicbooks for the shipping.[/QUOTE]
My friend works at a boat yard and uses his money to buy comics (mostly Suicide Squad). That means he...
USES HIS SHIPS FOR THE COMICS!
But seriously, it's true, and we've made that joke before.
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I wonder how everyone else is feeling in regards to Scott. I wonder if anyone else is gonna rain down on him harder than Dani and Alex just did.
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[QUOTE=KangMiRae;4453519]I wonder how everyone else is feeling in regards to Scott. I wonder if anyone else is gonna rain down him harder than Dani and Alex just did.[/QUOTE]
Depends if the mandatory editorial order is still in effect. If JDWs command is still live, then I imagine every X-character will line up to say how horrible Scott is before punching him.
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[QUOTE=KangMiRae;4453519]I wonder how everyone else is feeling in regards to Scott. I wonder if anyone else is gonna rain down him harder than Dani and Alex just did.[/QUOTE]
He still has another eye for Hope to shoot out
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[QUOTE=KangMiRae;4453519]I wonder how everyone else is feeling in regards to Scott. I wonder if anyone else is gonna rain down him harder than Dani and Alex just did.[/QUOTE]
We all know what's Logan reaction...
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At the end of the day the X-men are his family. I'm sure he will get some hugs at least.
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[QUOTE=PsychoEFrost;4453499]My friend works at a boat yard and uses his money to buy comics (mostly Suicide Squad). That means he...
USES HIS SHIPS FOR THE COMICS!
But seriously, it's true, and we've made that joke before.[/QUOTE]
[video=youtube;bcYppAs6ZdI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI[/video]
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[QUOTE=phoenixzero23;4453528]At the end of the day the X-men are his family. I'm sure he will get some hugs at least.[/QUOTE]
From who? The only two people that give two craps about his existence in the entire 616 are Jean and Emma, and Emma's is treated like a mental disorder. Meanwhile, they'll hold off on Jean and Scott having any personal moments so they can mess with the shippers as usual.
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[QUOTE=phoenixzero23;4453528]At the end of the day the X-men are his family. I'm sure he will get some hugs at least.[/QUOTE]
from who? Alex, Illyana and Dani were the closest connections he had on this team. I dont see any of the remaining members hugging him
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Mister Sinister will give Scott some sweet lovin'.
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[QUOTE=KangMiRae;4453540]Mister Sinister will give Scott some sweet lovin'.[/QUOTE]
He is such a sweet man.
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[QUOTE=Havok83;4453537]from who? Alex, Illyana and Dani were the closest connections he had on this team. I dont see any of the remaining members hugging him[/QUOTE]
Well, Alex put a hand on his shoulder, it's a beginning…
:)
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NOT Rosenberg making a meta commentary about secondary characters being cannon fodder after he used 230934290 characters as cannon fodder in this run
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[QUOTE=nandes;4453704]NOT Rosenberg making a meta commentary about secondary characters being cannon fodder after he used 230934290 characters as cannon fodder in this run
[IMG]https://78.media.tumblr.com/c5bb14644abef55623584992d73c318e/tumblr_inline_p61yliBvy21un0g7q_500.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
People are making a bunch of Twitter threads on how innovative Rosenberg’s run but he’s doing the exact same thing he’s critiquing.....not even trying to do anything to subvert that aside from just addressing it. It’s.....sad how low of a bar some people have for genre deconstruction.
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[QUOTE=Havok83;4453537]from who? Alex, Illyana and Dani were the closest connections he had on this team. I dont see any of the remaining members hugging him[/QUOTE]
it's not like lasted a lot of x-men on the team...
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[QUOTE=Tycon;4453730]People are making a bunch of Twitter threads on how innovative Rosenberg’s run but he’s doing the exact same thing he’s critiquing.....not even trying to do anything to subvert that aside from just addressing it. It’s.....sad how low of a bar some people have for genre deconstruction.[/QUOTE]
The dialogue pieces on the first page are so deep!
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[QUOTE=Digifiend;4452724]No they didn't. Reed, Sue, and the Future Foundation disappeared at the end of Secret Wars, not his F4 run. There was another writer on F4 while Hickman was writing Avengers.[/QUOTE]
The Fantastic Four basically disappeared into Limbo after that giant crossover and universe reset or whatever. Look at their appearance after the whole thing happened:
[url]https://comiccruncher.com/characters/invisible-woman[/url]
[url]https://comiccruncher.com/characters/mr-fantastic[/url]
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[QUOTE=Maestroneto;4453746]The dialogue pieces on the first page are so deep![/QUOTE]
duuuuuuuuude, every x-men story is like, about Cyclops and Logan, dude. Like, dude,’every writer always centers everything around Cyclops and Logan and Jean while everyone else is cannon fodder. DUDE, what if we did that in THIS story. But, plot twist, dude dude, we comment on it to an almost teeth-gnashing degree throughout the story so people can tell we’re different but not. That’s gonna blow some effin minds!
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[QUOTE=ButterRum;4453750]The Fantastic Four basically disappeared into Limbo after that giant crossover and universe reset or whatever. Look at their appearance after the whole thing happened:
[url]https://comiccruncher.com/characters/invisible-woman[/url]
[url]https://comiccruncher.com/characters/mr-fantastic[/url][/QUOTE]
Yeah, but it wasn't Hickman's decision.
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Chamber's death scene was actually a v deep meta commentary about the CBR forums